an Asante stat that goes, but should NOT go unnoticed

[patsfan55]

its a stat that always goes a lil unnnoticed
a stat that might be more indicitave of the corner than ints
its the pass deflection
and Asante led the nfl with 24 this yr!
i didnt even know he led until ten mins ago

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/b...e=NFL&year=season_2006&sort=113&timeframe=All

he had a great yr
and while i believe he still isnt quite at champ bailey's level
or ty law in his prime's level
he isnt all that far off

and the news we got yesterday was great
worst case scenario we get something for him
next to worst case scenario we have a very good corner for one more yr

 

[ayjackson]

best Pats' pass defense of the year was this one:

 

[unoriginal]

best Pats' pass defense of the year was this one:

Another worthy candidate is the one Ellis Hobbs made on Vincent Jackson's would-be touchdown post in San Diego.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

Another worthy candidate is the one Ellis Hobbs made on Vincent Jackson's would-be touchdown post in San Diego.

Hobbs got shafted twice in that game. He was this years version of Asante, when Asante got shafted in the Denver playoff game.

 

[Seneschal2]

its a stat that always goes a lil unnnoticed
a stat that might be more indicitave of the corner than ints
its the pass deflection
and Asante led the nfl with 24 this yr!

I think the 24 represents passes defensed, which is a combination of interceptions and tipped passes.

Samuel has a history of this going back to college, where he's still the career leader there. And with the Pats, he led the team in passes defensed before this season also. Difference being, this season he caught more balls leading to his 10 interceptions, but in the past -- he only tipped (or dropped) them. Both Samuel and BB have referred to his improvement (sticky hands) as a major factor in his development.

BTW, when we talk about 'ball skills' pertaining to DB prospects, the "passes defensed" category is an important one to consider. BB has mentioned this quality on several occasions. Primarily means the DB is always around the ball and in position to make a play.

Thanks for posting this interesting tidbit.

 

[patsfan55]

I think the 24 represents passes defensed, which is a combination of interceptions and tipped passes.

Samuel has a history of this going back to college, where he's still the career leader there. And with the Pats, he led the team in passes defensed before this season also. Difference being, this season he caught more balls leading to his 10 interceptions, but in the past -- he only tipped (or dropped) them. Both Samuel and BB have referred to his improvement (sticky hands) as a major factor in his development.

BTW, when we talk about 'ball skills' pertaining to DB prospects, the "passes defensed" category is an important one to consider. BB has mentioned this quality on several occasions. Primarily means the DB is always around the ball and in position to make a play.

Thanks for posting this interesting tidbit.

hm, good pt
is this pass defensed or pass deflections (pass break ups)
if its defensed and its a total, then he had 14 tips

as for your point about him always being good at this though
even if its the total defensed number, his total went way up from 16 to 24
so even if he used to break up the ones hes now catching (which i agree on) hes def getting to more balls

yeah i remember bb saying how it was a huge stat a few yrs ago when ty law and tyrone poole were two of the top few in the league in the stat

 

[PatsFanInVa]

I don't think passes defensed includes int.s, does it? Source?

PFnV

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

It does not include interceptions. I'm not quite sure though.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Which, by the way, would make the 24 that much more impressive.

But Asante, dude, you're still just one guy.

 

[patsfan55]

I don't think passes defensed includes int.s, does it? Source?

PFnV

im still digging
cant find a definitive answer

 

[homergreg]

Passes defended doesn't include interceptions: In 2005 Ty Law had 10 ints and 8 passes defended. If it did include interceptions, you could never have more interceptions than passes defended.

 

[Kdo5]

I always thought passes Passes DEF meant passes deflected or defended. Never knew for sure. Which 24 is a nice stat..

 

[DaBruinz]

While having 24 passes defensed is a good stat, it also says that teams were throwing to his side. Meaning that teams weren't afraid of him.....

 

[drew4008]

best Pats' pass defense of the year was this one:

haha, that was a penalty! Hobbs ruined us with that play, what are you talking about? I still love him, but that was bad coverage.

 

[ayjackson]

haha, that was a penalty! Hobbs ruined us with that play, what are you talking about? I still love him, but that was bad coverage.

He got beaten off the line, but in the end, it was a great pass defensed. He's up there 36 inches making sure the ball isn't completed. I can't help that the referee doesn't know the rules. That's what I'm talking about anyways - I just found the picture today and looked for a thread to post it in. I had to have some sort of segue to it.

 

[zippo59]

While having 24 passes defensed is a good stat, it also says that teams were throwing to his side. Meaning that teams weren't afraid of him.....

So what? He made them pay with 12 interceptions.

 

[PatsSteve1]

I'm not really bringing this up in Assante's case, but I've always wanted to see stats like how many sacks each individual OL gave up or missed blocks, missed tackles by D players or even say in Assante's case, how many TD's he may have given up, missed tackles or what percentage of balls thrown to his man were completed, etc. I am NOT saying Assante would have either good or bad 'negative' stats. I don't know. I assume teams keep track of this themselves about thier own players, but probably wouldn't want to release them and alienate thier players. But as an example, if a CB had 8 INT's but recievers he covered scored 10 TD's that's like a -2 for big plays.
Again, I have no idea what Assante's 'negative' stats are and would guess if they were real bad, they probably wouldn't have franchised him.

 

[DaBruinz]

So what? He made them pay with 12 interceptions.

Of which, at least 5 were because of the pressure that the defensive line put on teams, NOT because Samuel went up and beat the receiver for the ball.

It makes a world of difference when you look at the ENTIRE PICTURE and not just certain stats in a vacuum.

In other words, teams didn't respect Samuel and threw to his side, A LOT. That enabled him to have the chances for all the passes defensed and interceptions.

 

[Brady to Brown]

Of which, at least 5 were because of the pressure that the defensive line put on teams, NOT because Samuel went up and beat the receiver for the ball.

It makes a world of difference when you look at the ENTIRE PICTURE and not just certain stats in a vacuum.

In other words, teams didn't respect Samuel and threw to his side, A LOT. That enabled him to have the chances for all the passes defensed and interceptions.

What does this mean?

You should consider running for mayor.

 

[jczxohn1]

Asante's pass def. total is very good, especially when you consider how few pass interference penalties he drew. Ty Law's big year withe the Jets, when he had 9 or 10 int.'s, also were accompanied by 14 pass interference penalties. Only 9 were accepted, which means 5 resulted in a reception and more yds than the penalty would have garnered. Asante stayed under control for the most part.