Shawn Springs

[Krazy Koz]

Ok I mentioned this under the Dre Bly thread, but haven't gotten any responses. I noticed this guy was going into FA and is a vet flying under the radar. I don't know much about him, but would like to get some opinions from other Pats fans about him and whether he would be a fit for us.

here's a link I found on him:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=107

 

[JackBauer]

I have some serious concerns about his durability. Pass.

 

[Krazy Koz]

I have some serious concerns about his durability. Pass.

well I know he had a sholder injury last year and his career stats say he's played 12 or more games each season except for 01 - 5 games and 06 - 9 games... so do you want to add some support to your claim? or justification?

 

[salty]

well I know he had a sholder injury last year and his career stats say he's played 12 or more games each season except for 01 - 5 games and 06 - 9 games... so do you want to add some support to your claim? or justification?

He hasn't played a full season since 2001. I'd say that is cause for concern.

 

[Hoodie23]

Springs is not a free agent. In fact I think he just signed a new deal.

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

people in DC talk about him like he's a stud. didn't you know all of their defensive problems last year were due to him being hurt?

did they cut him? he signed a 6 year deal in '04 and I can't find anything saying he's been cut. i can find speculation and articles saying they either need to renegotiate with or cut him, but nothing saying it's been done.

 

[Krazy Koz]

Again people post some support/evidence behind your reasons...

Shawn Springs | Defensive Back
TEAM: Washington Redskins
HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6'0' / 200
DOB: 3/11/1975
AGE: 31
COLLEGE: Ohio State
CONTRACT INFO: 2007: $4,875,000 ($7.35 million cap number), 2008: $5,000,000, 2009: $6,000,000, 2010: Free Agent

Contract:
2007: $4,875,000 ($7.35 million cap number), 2008: $5,000,000, 2009: $6,000,000, 2010: Free Agent. Springs signed a six-year contract on 3/3/2004. The deal was restructured on 3/3/2006, and Springs is now due $2 million should Washington release him and he become a free agent March 1 of 2007.

Year & games played
SEA 99 - 16
SEA 00 - 16
SEA 01 - 5
SEA 02 - 15
SEA 03 - 12
WAS 04 - 15
WAS 04 - 15
WAS 04 - 9

 

[SamBamsFan]

Again people post some support/evidence behind your reasons...

Shawn Springs | Defensive Back
TEAM: Washington Redskins
HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6'0' / 200
DOB: 3/11/1975
AGE: 31
COLLEGE: Ohio State
CONTRACT INFO: 2007: $4,875,000 ($7.35 million cap number), 2008: $5,000,000, 2009: $6,000,000, 2010: Free Agent

Contract:
2007: $4,875,000 ($7.35 million cap number), 2008: $5,000,000, 2009: $6,000,000, 2010: Free Agent. Springs signed a six-year contract on 3/3/2004. The deal was restructured on 3/3/2006, and Springs is now due $2 million should Washington release him and he become a free agent March 1 of 2007.

Year & games played
SEA 99 - 16
SEA 00 - 16
SEA 01 - 5
SEA 02 - 15
SEA 03 - 12
WAS 04 - 15
WAS 04 - 15
WAS 04 - 9

Let me see if I have the #'s right. $7.35M minus $4.875M should equal the AAV of the signing bonus ($2.475M), and then they must pay him an extra $2M if they chose to cut him. So the choice, as I see it, is either pay him $4.875 to play for the 'Skins this year, or pay him $4.475 to play for someone else... It seems to me that $400,000 doesn't buy too much in the world of professional sports, so why do it?

 

[salty]

Again people post some support/evidence behind your reasons...

Why don't YOU "post some support/evidence behind" YOUR reasons? Springs is not even a FA, so why do you bring this up at all? Do you have a link to where it says he will, or even might, be cut?

 

[Krazy Koz]

Why don't YOU "post some support/evidence behind" YOUR reasons? Springs is not even a FA, so why do you bring this up at all? Do you have a link to where it says he will, or even might, be cut?

I did. See my previous posts that include both statistics and links on this very same thread. It is it too much to ask you the difficulty of using the effort to scroll, click buttons, and maybe even think before you type?

 

[Krazy Koz]

Let me see if I have the #'s right. $7.35M minus $4.875M should equal the AAV of the signing bonus ($2.475M), and then they must pay him an extra $2M if they chose to cut him. So the choice, as I see it, is either pay him $4.875 to play for the 'Skins this year, or pay him $4.475 to play for someone else... It seems to me that $400,000 doesn't buy too much in the world of professional sports, so why do it?

good point thanks for crunching the numbers.