Carson Palmer likely to be released

[EwanSellars]

at least carson palmer has had more success than the other USC QB's i think mallett will get traded some team will take a chance on him just like they take a chance when they would draft a QB

 

[ausbacker]

It's amazing to think that a team such as the Raiders, with all their cuts and releases, are improving their team long term. The amount of poor contracts the prior administration burdened that team with were unfathomable.

 

[goheels22002]

Right, he's already very wealthy, and he automatically jumps to the top of the list for available QBs overtaking Kevin Kolb (unless we're including players in trades like Matt Flynn, Nick Foles, etc). He could get attention now and then again if/when someone experiences an injury in the summer.

I can think of at least one team in our own division, if not two who may at least give him a thought--although it appears as though BUF is looking to rebuild again and start over at the position. Arizona is another team that is in need of a starting QB.

Either way, I wouldn't exactly pencil him in for "arena league" because he's chosen not to take a pay cut either. We're talking about a horrible situation for him in the 2 yrs that he's been there. I'm sure he's glad to move on.

I hope he comes to the Bills. His old tired butt in sub-zero cold with Chandler Jones smacking him around would be a wonderful sight.

 

[supafly]

I hope he comes to the Bills. His old tired butt in sub-zero cold with Chandler Jones smacking him around would be a wonderful sight.

I'd have to guess that they'll be moving on with a draft pick, but you never know. You'll likely get your wish to see C.Jones knocking someone around no matter what, assuming of course that Jones can replicate some of his success in the first 6 games of last season. I'm guessing/hoping he was suffering from an injury and that's what slowed him down tremendously.

ARZ or the NYJ may be destinations that have some interest, along with any team who loses a QB to injury at any point in the season. If the 2013 season goes by without him playing, I'd have to think he'd retire if he didn't get any looks in next year's free agency period.

 

[Froob]

Shame injuries ruined a promising career for Palmer. Was a perennial pro bowler before his shoulder injury. I wonder if he would have beaten the Steelers in 05 if he didn't get hurt.

 

[YearbookCurfew]

Sign the bea...wait, we don't need him. Never mind, carry on.

 

[NE_PATS_FAN_54]

That sounds all well and good but their best player, DMC, can't stay healthy and will be gone after this year. Terrell Pryor will never be a decent QB. The Wiz is ok and Denarius Moore could be good but that's about it.

Yea, I agree - they are terrible right now. They will probably have the #1 overall pick next year. All I am saying is they finally have the organization in good hands. They are going to gut that roster and build through the draft. There is just about zero way they give up any substantial picks for a guy like Mallett. They will see what Pryor can give them and go from there.

 

[Off The Grid]

Actually, I think the Raiders are going to be a formidable team in about 3 years. They have a very solid management team lead by Reggie MacKenzie who took over a hamstrung roster due to terrible roster moves (i.e. Palmer). He inherited a team with a terrible roster and had basically no draft picks due to the Palmer trade, Pryor taken in the supplemental draft, and the Pats-Raiders trade from the 2011 draft. He is implementing the Packers way of development there. It will take some time but if they can find the right QB (Terrell Pryor maybe?), then that would accelerate the process. But I really think the Raiders have a good thing set up. They are kind of like the Houston Astros of the NFL, just blowing everything up and building through the draft.

More importantly, Al Davis is no longer there. He was one of the most influential people in NFL history but towards the end of his time, he lead the team into the crapper.

Well said, Sir!!

1 ~ I find it bizarre that so many seem to think that this is a bad move. The bad move was trading for Palmer in the first place. This is a smart move, and the Raiders are gradually righting their Ship.

2 ~ I'm afraid that the OP's response is dead wrong: Palmer being bounced out onto the Market ~ whence the Cardinals will very likely pluck'm ~ substantially damages Mallet's Trade Market.

 

[Deus Irae]

It's amazing to think that a team such as the Raiders, with all their cuts and releases, are improving their team long term. The amount of poor contracts the prior administration burdened that team with were unfathomable.

They don't need 53 new players, but they might need 45+.

 

[supafly]

2 ~ I'm afraid that the OP's response is dead wrong: Palmer being bounced out onto the Market ~ whence the Cardinals will very likely pluck'm ~ substantially damages Mallet's Trade Market.

I certainly agree with this statement, and have been expecting Palmer's release for a few weeks now. I'd rather see him in ARZ where they have some cap room than in NY. Even though they'd likely have to scramble to make a move or two to compete for his services, you just never know.

It's not necessarily that I am scared of him, but moreso that I am quite happy with their current state of QB'ing affairs

 

[ausbacker]

They don't need 53 new players, but they might need 45+.

They needed widespread changes Deus. The Raiders on are the way to instigating that change. What they do from there is anyone's guess.

 

[Gronkandez]

Well said, Sir!!

2 ~ I'm afraid that the OP's response is dead wrong: Palmer being bounced out onto the Market ~ whence the Cardinals will very likely pluck'm ~ substantially damages Mallet's Trade Market.

The OP simply floated the idea that the Raiders, given their history of dumb moves, would make another dumb move and offer a haul for Mallet. It was clearly in the "wishful thinking" category.

Based upon his recent play, Palmer is in the twilight of his career and would only serve as a bridge to some other guy in a couple of years.

I agree that the market for Mallet is cloudy given his lack of playing time. As a Pats fan I'm hoping that a desperate team make a desperate move.

 

[Wolfpack]

I think an awful lot of people in this forum need to come to the realization that the Patriots will not get anything above a day-3 selection for Ryan Mallett. Anyone that wanted him could have had him 2 years ago, and he has done absolutely nothing to strengthen his credentials since then.

He's tall.... he's got a strong arm..... he's tall.......... he's got a strong arm...........

 

[goheels22002]

Carson Palmer (33) is an older version of Matt Schaub (31). Physically right out of central casting - 6'5" 230 or so with strong arms and stellar college backgrounds.

Neither has done anything in the playoffs (Schaub 1 career playoff win- Palmer - 0). Drop either one onto a good team with a good offensive line, a running game and better than average defense and they'd probably get you to the playoffs and then hit a wall.

Palmer would probably do well in a place like Minnesota or Chicago, where he wouldn't have to be The Man in the locker room or on the field. Palmer has bailed out on challenging situations and has not shown the leadership ability of a Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Eli Manning or Joe Flacco to step in and make his team better.

If he shows up in NY with the Jets or Buffalo, it would be an interesting signing but not one to change the balance of power.

 

[PatsDeb]

Carson Palmer strikes me as the type who believes his own hype, and he has never been the same since the injury he suffered in the playoffs the one time he got there.

I don't think anyone is going to give up anything fabulous for Ryan Mallett, and I don't think BB is going to give away Ryan Mallett for anything less than fabulous (why would you get rid of a back-up QB you've trained for 2 years for a third day pick and then have to train someone else?), so Palmer will get cut and Mallett will stay put.

 

[Deus Irae]

They needed widespread changes Deus. The Raiders on are the way to instigating that change. What they do from there is anyone's guess.

I agree. That team needed a major overhaul, to put it mildly. The new front office is basically going to be working with a clean slate and, like most organizations, they'll probably succeed or fail based upon what they can get at the QB position. As I was saying, that team might need 45+ players to be changed, still. Their keeper list seems like a very short one, to me. I'm not sure that it doesn't begin, and end, with Tyon Branch.

 

[SteveKiner]

I agree. That team needed a major overhaul, to put it mildly. The new front office is basically going to be working with a clean slate and, like most organizations, they'll probably succeed or fail based upon what they can get at the QB position. As I was saying, that team might need 45+ players to be changed, still. Their keeper list seems like a very short one, to me. I'm not sure that it doesn't begin, and end, with Tyon Branch.

I follow the Raiders a little and started laughing when I read this, but thinking about it, you aren't far off. The following are definite keepers.
Veldheer
Wisniewski
Reece
Houston
Branch
Janikowski


That's it.

I might see an argument for Denarious Moore, but that's it.
Seriously.

They lost more talent this offseason than they kept.

I am on board with the group saying Reggie McKenzie will right the ship in Oakland, but that list is eye opening.

 

[Deus Irae]

I follow the Raiders a little and started laughing when I read this, but thinking about it, you aren't far off. The following are definite keepers.
Veldheer
Wisniewski
Reece
Houston
Branch
Janikowski


That's it.

I might see an argument for Denarious Moore, but that's it.
Seriously.

They lost more talent this offseason than they kept.

I am on board with the group saying Reggie McKenzie will right the ship in Oakland, but that list is eye opening.

Yeah, I was a little harsh, because I should have used a better term than "keeper", but I think my overall point is solid. I love Janikowski, for example, but he's a 34 year old kicker, and he serves as a great way to highlight why the Raiders have sucked:

2010 8 8 Rolando McLain
2009 7 7 Darrius Heyward-Bey
2008 4 4 Darren McFadden
2007 1 1 JaMarcus Russell
2006 7 7 Michael Huff
2005 23 23 Fabian Washington
2004 2 2 Robert Gallery
2003 31 31 Nnamdi Asomugha
2003 32 32 Tyler Brayton
2002 17 17 Phillip Buchanon
2002 23 23 Napoleon Harris
2001 28 28 Derrick Gibson
2000 17 17 Sebastian Janikowski

DraftHistory.com

Take away Asomugha and you can make a pretty solid case that Janikowski's been the best Raiders' first round pick since 2000.

 

[JackBauer]

Speaking of first round picks, the Raiders just signed OT Alex Barron.

Look out, NFL! The Raiders are back in business.

 

[Gronkandez]

I follow the Raiders a little and started laughing when I read this, but thinking about it, you aren't far off. The following are definite keepers.
Veldheer
Wisniewski
Reece
Houston
Branch
Janikowski

.

C'mon man, you can't include the kicker. He's good but he's a kicker, plus he's always pullling a hammy. He's the only injury-prone kicker I've ever seen.