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Roger Goodell #1 on S.I.'s 50 Most Powerful People In Sports


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I know that everyone is a craze over the daily free agent "reports", but there are some must reads in SI and ESPN the Mag about Goodell.

Ironic how, on the same day, they both release stories on Goodell. The ESPN piece is really interesting stuff. Based on what the ESPN piece says, I can't imagine Goodell is too happy that it was released. A must read.

OTL: His Game, His Rules - ESPN
 
Sounds like a Commissioner who is doing his job. BTW, Sepp Blatter that low is a poor reflection on that list.
I think you're wrong. The Commissioner is supposed to be an impartial liasson between the owners and players. If 60% of the owners hated his guts would you still feel that way? This guy is a power hungry despot who is all for the owners and is disinterested, at best, in what benefits the players.
 
I think you're wrong. The Commissioner is supposed to be an impartial liasson between the owners and players. If 60% of the owners hated his guts would you still feel that way? This guy is a power hungry despot who is all for the owners and is disinterested, at best, in what benefits the players.

From the ESPN article:

Counters Ginsberg, who has much experience defending players before Goodell: "Based on my experience, the commissioner … doesn't view individual players as anything more than commodities for the business."

But some former and current players say Goodell's changes are motivated in part by the lawsuit. To be sure, the threat is real enough that two sources with knowledge of the discussions say there's a deep split among owners: Some are open to settling the case.

But the key question is one Goodell sidestepped as recently as Super Bowl Sunday on "Face the Nation." "Do you now acknowledge," CBS's Bob Schieffer asked, "a link between the game and these concussions that people have been getting, some of these brain injuries?"

Goodell responded: "That's why we're investing in the research, so that we can answer the question: What is the link? What causes some of the injuries that our players are still dealing with?" Pressed by Schieffer, he said: "Well, Bob, again, we're going to let the medical individuals make those points. We are going to give them the money, advance that science."

Goodell has also appeared to try to manage how the health issue is portrayed. This past September, on the same day a study was released showing that NFL players are four times more likely than the U.S. general population to die from Alzheimer's or ALS, Goodell announced on NBC that the league was making a $30 million grant to the National Institutes of Health for brain-injury research.
ENLARGE

Goodell and the league office were furious with Terry Bradshaw after the Hall of Famer made disparaging remarks about the league's motives on player safety on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno."

"I don't do things for public relations," Goodell told Time magazine in November. "I do things because they're the right thing to do, because I love the game." Behind the scenes, Goodell and league executives closely monitor reports by the NFL's broadcast partners. With increasing regularity, what they see angers Goodell and league execs, sources say.
In September the NBC Sports Network planned to run a piece produced by Sports Illustrated about spouses and caregivers of retired players. But in an email written a week before the piece was to air, a person involved in the production told a colleague "the NFL went nuclear and was trying to get it killed." Sources at both the NFL and NBC say they were not aware of any contact between them about the story. Ultimately, say SI and NBC, they had a disagreement about whether the piece should air. It never did.
 
I'd argue Stern is more powerful. Dude pretty much fully controls the NBA. He told some players during all star weekend a few years back then he knows where the bodies are buried.
 
I think you're wrong. The Commissioner is supposed to be an impartial liasson between the owners and players. If 60% of the owners hated his guts would you still feel that way? This guy is a power hungry despot who is all for the owners and is disinterested, at best, in what benefits the players.
The Commissioner doesn't work for the players. The players work for the owners who are represented by the Commissioner.

Goodell is hell bent on making the game safer for players. If you disagree that this notion isn't something that will benefit the players then there's no point having a discussion with you.
 
Goodell doesn't appear to have a genuine bone in his body, but that's because he's such an effective actor. He's playing a role and apparently that's what the owners want. The man is pretense defined. I suppose it's a pipe dream to hope for a true visionary in that position.
 
The Commissioner doesn't work for the players. The players work for the owners who are represented by the Commissioner.

Goodell is hell bent on making the game safer for players. If you disagree that this notion isn't something that will benefit the players then there's no point having a discussion with you.
He's hell-bent on appearing to make the game safer for the players because he's scared to death of the damages that litigation from the players will bring. No one truly concerned with player safety would propose an extended regular season.
 
He's hell-bent on appearing to make the game safer for the players because he's scared to death of the damages that litigation from the players will bring. No one truly concerned with player safety would propose an extended regular season.
If you're resting your laurel on that as an argument you're going to have to do better. I don't want an extended season because I'm happy with the current format, not because of potential exposure to more harm disregarding the measures taken to mitigate that harm.
 
On a side note, the same SI article ranks Robert Kraft as the 12th most powerful person in sports.

It Is What It Is » Patriots owner Robert Kraft 12th most powerful in sports, according to Sports Illustrated

Kraft, 71, made himself invaluable to the NFL with his work on its broadcast, finance and compensation committees. And as an owner trusted by players, his consensus-building and shuttle diplomacy were keys to resolving the 2011 lockout.​


Within just the NFL, SI ranks Kraft 2nd behind Goodell; Bill Belichick ranks 8th.
 
If you're resting your laurel on that as an argument you're going to have to do better. I don't want an extended season because I'm happy with the current format, not because of potential exposure to more harm disregarding the measures taken to mitigate that harm.
"...resting your laurel..." Huh? I did, however, use the extended season proposal as evidence to support my contention. And, I stand by it. Just because you say I'm going to have to do better doesn't mean I do. Either way, I'm done with this matter.
 
"...resting your laurel..." Huh? I did, however, use the extended season proposal as evidence to support my contention. And, I stand by it. Just because you say I'm going to have to do better doesn't mean I do. Either way, I'm done with this matter.
You're done with it because it's a crappy position to begin with. There's no connection between your assertion. Goodell is doing things to benefit the players. Your blind disgust for Goodell has clouded your ability to judge him fairly.
 
You're done with it because it's a crappy position to begin with. There's no connection between your assertion. Goodell is doing things to benefit the players. Your blind disgust for Goodell has clouded your ability to judge him fairly.

How does extending the season benefit the players/promote player safety?
 
How does extending the season benefit the players/promote player safety?
You need to read my comments more closely. I said Goodell is doing things to improve player safety against the point that Goodell is doing (in essence) nothing for the players.
 
You need to read my comments more closely. I said Goodell is doing things to improve player safety against the point that Goodell is doing (in essence) nothing for the players.
You need to express yourself more clearly. I did not say that Goodell was doing nothing for player safety. My point was that what he's doing, and transparently it appears substantial, is in response to him being scared *****less that he, personally (although he's' surely indemnified), and the league will lose billions, not millions over many decades if he and the league don't at least superficially try to make player safety a priority.
 
You need to express yourself more clearly. I did not say that Goodell was doing nothing for player safety. My point was that what he's doing, and transparently it appears substantial, is in response to him being scared *****less that he, personally (although he's' surely indemnified), and the league will lose billions, not millions over many decades if he and the league don't at least superficially try to make player safety a priority.
I'm not sure how I could be any clearer in my first few posts Jackson? Whichever way you look at it, you've at least included that Goodell by association or superficial measure, is addressing player safety. I'm happy enough to concede ground and meet in the middle.
 
I'm not sure how I could be any clearer in my first few posts Jackson? Whichever way you look at it, you've at least included that Goodell by association or superficial measure, is addressing player safety. I'm happy enough to concede ground and meet in the middle.
Honestly, ausbacker, I have no quarrel with you and your posts. In fact, I have also frequently enjoyed and agreed with your opinions. And in the event that you might consider me a guy who favors labor over management, I'll only say that I spent 30+ years in management dealing with one of the largest unions in the US. Prior to becoming a manager, I was an official and negotiator in the union to which I referred above. Anyway, my point is that the truth in labor/management disputes rarely, if ever, is rooted in either side. I just think Goodell is a poor commissioner and I fully admit that my opinion is largely based upon the screwing the Pats took over Spygate.
 
shocking...... and appalling

They paid him $29.5 million in 2011, and in January 2012 he signed a five-year contract extension

almost as bad as the sickening bad inexplicable kraft expressed man-love for him.

and bspn gets an honorable mention for continuig the worst in 1-sided reporting on camera-gate
 
Honestly, ausbacker, I have no quarrel with you and your posts. In fact, I have also frequently enjoyed and agreed with your opinions. And in the event that you might consider me a guy who favors labor over management, I'll only say that I spent 30+ years in management dealing with one of the largest unions in the US. Prior to becoming a manager, I was an official and negotiator in the union to which I referred above. Anyway, my point is that the truth in labor/management disputes rarely, if ever, is rooted in either side. I just think Goodell is a poor commissioner and I fully admit that my opinion is largely based upon the screwing the Pats took over Spygate.
That's fair Jackson. We've all had our dealings with both sides of the fence. In regards to Goodell, I agree his handling of Spygate was poor (even pathetic) but I'm not going to judge his performance on that situation in isolation. It's my belief that he's doing a reasonable job.
 
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