Would you give the Eagles a 7th round pick for CB Nnamdi Asomugha?

[Patriot Missile]

I'd absolutely give him a shot if the price was right. Get him out of that garbage zone Philly plays and put him back in Man coverage where he excels. Philly's safeties are far from solid. Looked like the Patriots were starting to play a lot of man with the corners last year and there was improvement back there. Pair him up with Talib with an improved secondary and I think the secondary issues are finally solved.

This isn't the only route to improve the backfield but worth entertaining.

 

[VJCPatriot]

I wouldn't trade for him, only because his contract pays him way too much. Once the Eagles release him, though (and they are going to release him), I'd love to see the Pats pick him up on more reasonable money. He would be a good fit here in the same role that Talib plays/played.

He hasn't missed a game since he signed with Philly, so I don't know why injuries would be a concern.

Yup, he costs too much against the cap to trade for. Besides Philly has to cut him. He ain't worth 15m per year any more.

Report: Eagles to cut Asomugha today | ProFootballTalk

 

[tatepatsfan]

In my opinion, he is worth a seventh rounder. His contract, however, is not.

 

[patfanken]

He's not vastly over rared. There is no question that at one time he was a top five CB. For some reason he hasn't been close to that with the Eagles. Even at 32 it's hard to believe he's slipped that far. If anyone needed a fresh start its him.

Personally I all think his conkract makes it impossible for the eagles to keep him. He's certainly worth a 7th rounder, but I don't think it's necessary to use it. The other thing that I think make him so attractive to the Pats is th $4MM he is getting from the Eagles regardless. He needs a prove it year, and that money will allow a team like the Pats to construct a 3 year deal with first year costing the team just 3-5MM. That way he'll get his $8-10MM in 2013 and the team a relatively allow cost one year rental if he isn't a true #1 CB anymore.

We need a big physical CB to line up against the ABoldens of the league. At best Aso can be that guy short term. At lowest he could be a savvy veteran big CB like Otis Smith was in 2001
Definitely worth a look in the same vein Rashid Mathis is.

 

[tonyto3690]

People saying he is done clearly didn't watch him play this year.

This year he was statistically as good as any year in Oakland. He's just getting more press in Philadelphia as opposed to Oakland and the Eagles get much more press for being bad than the Raiders did.

He's still an elite corner. People just hear he is playing bad and keep recycling it as if they know he is and it's snowballed. He's played really well and was way better than Talib was this past season for us.


That being said I wouldn't trade for him at that cap hit because you can't pay that much to a corner and expect to win, even if he is worth it in a vacuum (Revis). Because at the end of the day, he is still just a corner. You win in the trenches, not in the secondary. The Rex Ryan/Al Davis/Snyder method has proven to be unsustainable and Belichicks method of a run stuffing strong front 7 with mediocrity at corner has worked for a long time.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

At 32 he can still play but we don't know how well anymore since his days in Philly were o.k. but unspectacular compared to his Raider days .....could it be he needs a change in scenery?or is he on the rapid decline like Champ Bailey?

Because even in decline he is probably still better than most CBs,I would think 5M for a season is reasonable and if he shows his former self in 2013,then a much more profitable contract to deal with in 2014 would be in the works.

 

[lurker1965]

Um, yeah. If he sucks and is the guy who used to be Asomugha, cut him.

Only a 7th? What's the catch?

 

[lurker1965]

We need a smaller contract, so no. Trading for him means we have to overpay in salary unless he agreed to a new/revised deal like Moss deal in the trade that brought him to NE

But as a free agent I'd be all over him, like BO on a Jets fan.

If he sucks or won't renegotiate, cut him before the season starts - unless there is a big roster bonus or something there is minimal risk. Contacts are not guaranteed like in baseball.

 

[supafly]

Um, yeah. If he sucks and is the guy who used to be Asomugha, cut him.

Only a 7th? What's the catch?

The catch is the price of the new contract they'd have to do. No one is going to take on the cap hit of the current deal in his last year.

And they also wouldn't be able to cut him as easily as some may think. He'll come cheaper, yes, but there will still be at least a handful of interested teams that would compete for his services. I'd have to guess that he'll be asking for something in the 6 million dollar a year range, as an approximate value. We may be able to luck out and get him for something a little less, but he'd still be making Leigh Bodden money in terms of aav (without the 4 yr deal or guaranteed money though). I think they'd definitely be stuck with him for at least a year if he played poorly.

 

[lurker1965]

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That being said I wouldn't trade for him at that cap hit because you can't pay that much to a corner and expect to win, even if he is worth it in a vacuum (Revis). Because at the end of the day, he is still just a corner. You win in the trenches, not in the secondary. The Rex Ryan/Al Davis/Snyder method has proven to be unsustainable and Belichicks method of a run stuffing strong front 7 with mediocrity at corner has worked for a long time.

Does anyone need to "re-emphasize" how the game has become more passing oriented.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Just wait til he's cut and he should be the #1 CB on our radar in FA imo.

 

[lurker1965]

The catch is the price of the new contract they'd have to do. No one is going to take on the cap hit of the current deal in his last year.

And they also wouldn't be able to cut him as easily as some may think. He'll come cheaper, yes, but there will still be at least a handful of interested teams that would compete for his services. I'd have to guess that he'll be asking for something in the 6 million dollar a year range, as an approximate value. We may be able to luck out and get him for something a little less, but he'd still be making Leigh Bodden money in terms of aav (without the 4 yr deal or guaranteed money though). I think they'd definitely be stuck with him for at least a year if he played poorly.

Ok, give him $6 million for three years with no signing bonus this year. (He can have roster bonuses after a "prove it" year.) If he sucks now 'cuz he's old, cut him in camp. Nothing is guaranteed in year 1. If he is leaning to the Jets because they offer the same contract with it guaranteed, so? It is a trade, not a FA signing.

If we are talking the Eagles cutting him, well, sad to give him to the Jets in that example, but...

 

[tonyto3690]

Does anyone need to "re-emphasize" how the game has become more passing oriented.

Yeah, and the Jets have done so well with two big time corners on their pay role.

 

[slash83]

Be nice to have Nhandi, Talib, and Dennard as corners and McCourty and whoever else at the S spot.