NFL conspiracy theory?

[Bhelmet]

Come with proof - otherwise you are the same as those who claim the govt ordered the hit on Sandy Hook. STUPID - bring TRUTH or bring nothing.

 

[Claremonster]

Ok I was reluctant to buy into this but after listening to people tell
me it is true and considering some what I've seen/heard I am wondering.

here's some stuff to consider.

1. NBA is on record that refs take pay offs to influence game out comes
and the ref caught said he is not the only one doing it. Is it a stretch to
think there may be NFL refs doing it also?

2. PATs with an offense scoring 30+ points a game just finished off a team
with a pretty good defense in the playoffs with 40+ points and is held to
13 points by an old D.

3. The ratings for a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh Superbowl were off the scales.
There are billions involved here folks. With that much money at stake it is
possible some people were bought to influence the outcome of the game?

4. Tom Brady. Think about his body language. Did he seem like
he was really playing to win? To me he didn't have that fire in his eyes.
His body language seemed to say " I already know what the outcome will be .. so why try hard .. I'll just do what I'm paid to do"

Consider it all ask yourself ...
does it make sense that this offense is held to 13 points with NO points in the second half?

It almost seems like the no 2nd half points was
a rebellion to the game being fixed .... the only way that they could
say it was fixed without saying it verbally.

Thoughts?

I have thought this very same thing more than a few times.

Look at the Black Sox scandal a long time ago.

Anything is possible.

College games are rigged all of the time.

The NHL is basically ran by the Russian mafia.

Why would football be any different?

 

[Claremonster]

The year of 9-11, Pats win. Interesting subject.:bricks:

 

[Claremonster]

So the fact that the Pats actually lost a game indicates a conspiracy? Did Brady conspire with the D- lineman who swatted his pass for an INT? Did Ridley conspire with Pollard to get knocked out?



So Brady was resigned that he was battling a vast conspracy and lost all hope and desire to rally his team mates? Is it within the realm of possibility that the Pats were simply outplayed and were unable to make adequate adjustments? Nah, that's a wacky premise...the conspiracy theory makes far more sense.

The refs can change important plays in games. You would have to be naive, ignorant or blind to not see that.

 

[Bhelmet]

I trust little and noone - until they build trust with me. I have my suspicions about the fixing of sports. I cannot prove it and when we get to the point of where we can prove it - damage done/can't do a thing about it. That is why I do not live/die with sports. I love watching a couple sports - I LOVE playing all of them - but I put LITTLE stock in today's athletes or the outcome of the games. I think that comes because of the little trust athletes have. All the discussion does is allow the snakes to crawl louder - if you get my drift. Until there is proof - noone REALLY cares.

 

[olschool]

No, I don't think so. Maybe in the 06 AFCCG. Pats got bent over pretty bad. Was probably because of Polian's whining. Not sure the ravens making the super bowl is better for the NFL than the Patriots. With the Patriots you either love them or hate them. So you can guarantee people will watch the super bowl.

The Pats were last year. This year we get the Harbowl and the Ray Lewis retirement parade.

 

[g-fresh]

Remember how we couldn't even keep our pointless sideline filming secret within our own organization? And how that blew up into one of the biggest football stories of the decade? Yeah now think about keeping a coordinated, league wide game fixing conspiracy secret. Not gonna happen.

Never underestimate the effects of incompetence. For instance did you know that NFL refs are not full time employees? It's crazy, but many of them hold regular jobs and on the weekends fly out and help determine the outcomes of games. Before assigning a conspiracy maybe think about how most NFL refs flat out suck, it makes a lot more sense.

 

[Skeeter712]

This thread is absolutely worthless.

 

[Boston Boxer]

i am just posting to pad my stats...this thread is no good.

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

I also think it's childish - and dishonest - to mock people who have enough sense to open their eyes and see that corrupt officiating is regularly deciding the outcome of games, and that it cost the Patriots a trip to this year's Super Bowl. I think if you took any rational adult who was not a sports fan and explained to him or her the rules of a fumble, then showed him the replay of Ridley's fumble, he or she would be amazed (and confused) that it was ruled a fumble. Then if you explained to him the rules of defending a receiver, i.e. the defender can't make contact after five yards until after the ball arrives, and then showed him footage of the Ravens DBs defending Pats receivers two Sundays ago, he would ask why penalties were not called. Then if you explained to him the rule on holding, and then showed him footage from any point in the game of the Ravens OL at work, probably at that point the non-invested non-fan would make the only sensible conclusion, and comment that the officiating was crooked.

I don't know who is doing it, whether it's the league or the mafia, and it doesn't matter. Anyone who denies it's happening is part of the problem.

It won't change until enough intelligent people who care about truth and decency walk away. If tomorrow twenty million people decided to boycott the NFL until the NFL cleaned up its act, you'd better believe things would change in a hurry. But as long as people willfully cover their eyes and keep buying tickets, merchandise, etc., it's going to keep happening.

For me, there's no point in watching if I know that it doesn't matter how well my team plays because the money may be on the other team.

You can have all the beliefs you want, but, you've gotta let the Ridley fumble go. It was a fumble.

 

[Haley]

Timeouts for commercials in the middle of a drive is all the evidence you need.

wow, really?

That's what you're going with?

Take off the tinfoil and come in off the ledge please. The aliens are beaming into the basement this week.

 

[Michael]

If you want to see the refs "rig" a game just watch the Pats Denver playoff game in 2005. Or SuperBowl XL. However there was nothing in this game that would even suggest to me it was rigged. The Pats offense just didn't score. And that's it.

 

[Ring 6]

I also think it's childish - and dishonest - to mock people who have enough sense to open their eyes and see that corrupt officiating is regularly deciding the outcome of games, and that it cost the Patriots a trip to this year's Super Bowl.

Which is exactly why you shouldn't post on the topic.

 

[Wolfpack]

3. The ratings for a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh Superbowl were off the scales.
There are billions involved here folks. With that much money at stake it is
possible some people were bought to influence the outcome of the game?

I'm going to ignore the ridiculousness of your evidence and focus on the ridiculousness of your motive.

Aside from the fact that Super Bowl ratings are off the scales no matter who is playing, you're foolish if you think the NFL would rather have had Baltimore instead of New England. The casual fan doesn't give a rat's behind about "Harbaugh versus Harbaugh" - more casual fans would be brought in by a marquee name like Tom Brady.

Not to mention the fact that so many people out there hate the Patriots, and teams that are hated are a ratings bonanza.

 

[Froob]

I was thoroughly entertained by your 2007 Super Bowl theory. Without evidence it will only ever be a theory, but entertaining none the less. To add more fuel to the fire, there were 2 or 3 blatant offensive holding penalties on the Tyree catch that were not called, not to mention that Eli was in the grasp. Also here's another conspiracy angle involving A$ante Samuel. We all know he made it no secret that he was all about the Benjamins. Is it possible that the dropped interception and the blown coverage on the Tyree throw were not just innocent mistakes? Just sayin.

Um no....Asante is a legend if he makes that interception. Noway he got paid off to drop that. This is more ridiculous than the monti teo' situation.

 

[ausbacker]

 

[Koma]

It's kind of fitting that we had that post from a Ravens fan stating what a great board this is and this thread both appear on the board this week. Those two display the opposite ends of the Good/Bad spectrum on this board.

There are 2 reasons why I don't believe NFL games are fixed or staged to produce a certain outcome:

- One is that, 20 years ago, we had a chance to see Steve Young vs. Joe Montana in the Super Bowl. The Chiefs and 49ers had both reached the CCG and were a win away from a macth-up that would have set ratings records. Instead, we got Cowboys-Bills II, Buffalo's 4th straight SB appearance. If things were truly rigged, we would have seen the most hyped game ever.

- The other reason is that if there really is a conspiracy, then everyone is in on it: The league, the players, the announcers, the coaches, the referees. Everyone. That's the only way to ensure that "They" get the results they want. That's too many people to keep quiet about something that big. Do you think Joey Porter could keep his mouth shut about something like this?

 

[Nikolai]

Why in the world would the NFL rig a Baltimore-SF matchup? Think about it. If the NFL were rigging any matchups, New England would be on the short list of beneficiaries.

 

[TN patriot fan]

Which is exactly why you shouldn't post on the topic.

Ignorance is bliss. You're part of the problem. And, you either don't know much about football, or don't pay very close attention to what you're watching.

All those who have resorted to ad hominem in this thread - I'd love to hear your explanation for the uncalled offensive pass interference by Burress in the 2008 Super Bowl, or better yet, the uncorrected clock cessations during the final minute while Troy Aikman noted it for all the world to hear, or the uncalled personal foul when Brady was speared in the chin. Then you can explain how it really doesn't make a major difference when one team has to play by the rules in the rule book, and the other one doesn't; maybe you weren't watching closely enough to see the Ravens OL holding nearly every play and not being called for it, or maybe you think Eric Mangini was making it up when he observed on national television that the Ravens DBs were allowed to break the rules the entire game? I'd love to hear an explanation of how there's nothing corrupt about officials deciding to selectively not enforce a rule that's in the rule book and not open to interpretation; then perhaps you can explain how cornerbacks being released from any considerations of the rule book in how they defend the receivers of one of the most potent offenses in history, is not really that much of an advantage, and the Pats should have just been able to overcome it so you don't have to leave your infantile world of denial and face the fact your favorite pastime is a sham.

 

[Wolfpack]

Ignorance is bliss. You're part of the problem. And, you either don't know much about football, or don't pay very close attention to what you're watching.

All those who have resorted to ad hominem in this thread - I'd love to hear your explanation for the uncalled offensive pass interference by Burress in the 2008 Super Bowl, or better yet, the uncorrected clock cessations during the final minute while Troy Aikman noted it for all the world to hear, or the uncalled personal foul when Brady was speared in the chin. Then you can explain how it really doesn't make a major difference when one team has to play by the rules in the rule book, and the other one doesn't; maybe you weren't watching closely enough to see the Ravens OL holding nearly every play and not being called for it, or maybe you think Eric Mangini was making it up when he observed on national television that the Ravens DBs were allowed to break the rules the entire game? I'd love to hear an explanation of how there's nothing corrupt about officials deciding to selectively not enforce a rule that's in the rule book and not open to interpretation; then perhaps you can explain how cornerbacks being released from any considerations of the rule book in how they defend the receivers of one of the most potent offenses in history, is not really that much of an advantage, and the Pats should have just been able to overcome it so you don't have to leave your infantile world of denial and face the fact your favorite pastime is a sham.

Here's an even better question: If you believe any or all of those things, then why are you a fan of the sport? I would never follow a sport I believed to be rigged. And yet, here you are.