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Think about this. A long time ago in a stadium not far away, BB flipped Law (CB) and Harrison(S) for the game against Peyton Manning. Result was utter confusion and 3 picks by Law. I would not be surprised if BB went against type for at least a few series. This of course depends upon Talib & Dennard having shown in practice that they were not hopelessly confused themselves by a change in assignments.
Big gap in both talent and experience between Law and Harrison, and Talib and Dennard. I think for the latter 2 you need it keep it simple, or at least simple....er.

But that being said, I really would like to see some strange stuff rolled out for this game. I will admit to being disappointed if we see our D lined up in a basic 4-3 all day.
 
Think about this. A long time ago in a stadium not far away, BB flipped Law (CB) and Harrison(S) for the game against Peyton Manning. Result was utter confusion and 3 picks by Law. I would not be surprised if BB went against type for at least a few series. This of course depends upon Talib & Dennard having shown in practice that they were not hopelessly confused themselves by a change in assignments.

It seems like last week, and some games this season, Talib was assigned to a man regardless of side of field -- so BB has already shown a willingness for flipping CB sides (even though for whatever reason he didn't during the asante / ty eras).

I'd be more shocked if BB did a Ty / Rodney type swap. I think the reason that succeeded was that both Ty and Rodney were top 3 players at their positions and had a great understanding of each other.
Maybe you swap Talib & McCourty some plays, but in general I'd be suprised if the upside (confusion) is greater than the downside (not playing out of position well).
 
You should have read further, it gets more optimistic. In fact, I'm going against the flow and think that, barring injuries or a redo of the 2009 first quarter, I think this game will eventually end up very much like the Texan game. A close first half, followed by a second half where the Pats pull away.

This is what I am thinking as well. We are young on offense for the most part and the key playmakers for the Baltimore defense are near the end of their careers if not retiring.

We lost to them by one point with a very different corp of DB's than we have now. And let's not forget that 4th quarter collapse when we were leading 30-21. there were two very crucial penalties by McCourty, a DPI and a holding.

Also it was the last game refereed by replacement officials who were clearly out of their elements and completely unprepared to deal with such an intense playoff-level type of game.

Also Webb their top CB is out. McClain is also out. Even when Webb was there, Welker schooled him for 142 yards. Who covers Welker now? Lloyd also had 108 yards in the game.

Also I don't think our running game is going to post a pathetic 2.3 YPC again (most of that was because of Ridley). Vereen has more than emerged, and Woodhead is there as a tool. We also have a healthy Hernandez. Like Ken I expect to see more wheels, shovels, and screens.

Next stop: superbowl.
 
It seems like last week, and some games this season, Talib was assigned to a man regardless of side of field -- so BB has already shown a willingness for flipping CB sides (even though for whatever reason he didn't during the asante / ty eras).

I'd be more shocked if BB did a Ty / Rodney type swap. I think the reason that succeeded was that both Ty and Rodney were top 3 players at their positions and had a great understanding of each other.
Maybe you swap Talib & McCourty some plays, but in general I'd be suprised if the upside (confusion) is greater than the downside (not playing out of position well).

I cited the Ty swap simply to refute the statement that BB does not do "swaps". He does.

I was responding to the posts about swapping CBs left to right, something I say BB would consider IF as I said, the players showed him in practice that they were not confused by L/R swaps. I never mentioned McCourty.
 
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you should have read further, it gets more optimistic. In fact, i'm going against the flow and think that, barring injuries or a redo of the 2009 first quarter, i think this game will eventually end up very much like the texan game. A close first half, followed by a second half where the pats pull away.

C'mon pwp, hasn't being a long term pats fan taught you anything about perseverance, and overcoming adversity. You have to fight through those first few paragraphs, and grind out those long narratives and senseless digressions, and find the meat of the post. ;)

"sixty minutes!!!!! C'mon guys, sixty minutes!!!!!!!"
 
I cited the Ty swap simply to refute the statement that BB does not do "swaps". He does.

I was responding to the posts about swapping CBs left to right, something I say BB would consider IF as I said, the players showed him in practice that they were not confused by L/R swaps. I never mentioned McCourty.
Not to nitpick here, PWP, but a S/CB swap isn't the same as a CB/CB swap, and although I don't recall the Law/Harrison swap you refer to, it is safe to say that over the last 12 years BB has used every possible defensive alignment and personnel package. Its even safer to say that he has broken EVERY pattern and tendency he's ever created.

All that we were saying that he "GENERALLY" doesn't flop CB's. But it can also be said he GENERALLY doesn't use a 4-3 alignment. and he GENERALLY doesn't use as much man coverage. The point being, we should all know that we should never say never with the most flexible coach in the NFL.
 
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Patriots on Defense

I don't know how much Torrey Smith plays on the left side so I think in most cases we'll see Talib on him which I think is best suited for the Pats. While not a speed burner, Talib's technique is excellent. What will be interesting is when the Ravens have Doss or Jones on the left side, how will the safeties be aligned? If the Ravens run verticals, I would imagine you would want McCourty on Smith's side but that leaves Dennard and Gregory on a speed guy like Doss or Jones. I like the matchup with Arrington on Boldin on 3rd downs. Arrington is a good slot cover guy and Boldin plays mostly the slot on 3rds. I still like Dennard on Boldin on the outside.
Like Ken points out, given how well the Ravens Oline protected against the Broncos 4man rush, I'm not expecting anything more from our front 4 so I think we may see some extra rushers a little more frequently which we then know leaves the secondary more exposed. Its a good game of cat and mouse and we haven't even talked about containing Rice which at the end of the day is the most critical. I'd still like to see a variety of schemes but also an aggressive one. Don't want to see 12 yard cushions to the guys on the outside. Stil think you need to jam them even with their speed.

Patriots on Offense

I don't see much blitzing from Baltimore. I get a kick out of the analysts speak of getting pressure on Brady as the key to disrupting him. Well no **** Sherlock!!! Doesn't that apply to every QB. But the stats show that Brady is at his best when a D brings extra men. Unlike the Bronco game where the Ravens played cover 2 with man underneath, I see more cover 1 in this game with more attention to Welker and Hernandez which makes Lloyd the key. I'll be curious to see how the Ravens play Vereen and Woodhead when they split out wide. Wouldn't be surpised to see them in nickel when Vereen and Woodhead are in the game as a LB would have a tough time with them and if the Pats do go empy backfield, then the Ravens would more likely play cover 2 or 3 with a 4 man rush. I don't think the Ravens will get too exotic. They won't mind giving up some drives and then play tough and try and make the Pats settle for field goals (this is where the running game will be key). Call me nuts but I just think Ed Reed reads the QB so much to the point that he will leave his responsibility. I think Brady can sucker him on a play or 2 and hit something over the top
 
Ken, thinking some more about this, I see the Pats as having an almost overwhelming advantage. The Ravens' offense just isn't good at controlling the clock and moving the chains. They are too mistake prone. They havne't been good all year at dominating the TOP and stringing out long, sustained drives, and I don't see them doing that now. And their defense isn't nearly fast enough, or blessed with enough firepower and big play ability anymore, to stay with Brady and our offense. They will get physical and nasty, but they gave up 34 and 35 points to Denver in 2 contests, and I can't see them holding the Pats to under 35.

Realistically, I see only 3 ways that the Pats lose this game:

1. They have some major defensive lapses and give up some huge big plays.

That's what is getting the bulk of the attention with Baltimore's big play success the past few weeks, but our D has been very good over the past 8 weeks at limiting big plays. Only 4.5 plays of 20 yards or more/game over that period. Only 8 plays of over 30 yards in those 8 games (4 of which came with the Pats up by 28 points or more, and 2 of which were short passes that got broken long). Only 2 plays of over 40 yards in those 8 games. No offensive rushing plays of over 23 yards all season (including no Ray Rice rush of over 15 yards earlier this year). I really think that it's unlikely that the Ravens get 2-3 TDs on big plays. Possible, but very unlikely.

Baltimore's scoring against Denver came on drives of 4, 3, ,5, 3 and 6 plays, all but the last being TDs. Their 2 longest drives were 7 and 8 plays, neither of which produced points. Against Indy the Ravens had only 1 possession lasting over 6 plays. I'll be very (unpleasantly) surprised if they can sustain drives against the Pats on a consistent basis.

2. The Pats' O makes some major miscues handling the football.

This was part of the problem against San Francisco, and put the defense in the hole. BB was having the team practice with balls lubed up with vaseline last week, and I'm sure that will continue this week. Ball security will be a huge theme. Not making key mistakes. Avoiding turnovers. Being patient.

3. Special Teams miscues.

This is the one that worries me the most. We aren't hearing as much about it because it was the Ravens who had problems last week against Denver, allowing 2 Trindon Holliday TDs. But Jacoby Jones has been a huge weapon for them, and the Pats' ST unit has given up some major plays this season, some of them game-changing:

- The missed block against Arizona leading to the blocked punt
- The 31 yard Dashon Goldson run on the fake punt against SF (the only run over 30 yards all year)
- The LaMichael James 62 yard kickoff return after the Pats had tied SF 31-31
- The 3 Danieal Manning kickoff returns last week giving Houston starting field position at the NE 12, 47 and 35 yard line, and leading to 17 of their 28 points

I could easily envision a scenario in which the Pats give up 1 big play to Flacco, 1 score on turnovers, and 1 score on special teams, leading to 21 points. They've got to be careful about letting Baltimore get cheap points. Make them work for everything, and we'll be fine.
 
Not to nitpick here, PWP, but a S/CB swap isn't the same as a CB/CB swap, and although I don't recall the Law/Harrison swap you refer to, it is safe to say that over the last 12 years BB has used every possible defensive alignment and personnel package. Its even safer to say that he has broken EVERY pattern and tendency he's ever created.

All that we were saying that he "GENERALLY" doesn't flop CB's. But it can also be said he GENERALLY doesn't use a 4-3 alignment. and he GENERALLY doesn't use as much man coverage. The point being, we should all know that we should never say never with the most flexible coach in the NFL.

Statements ere made BB doesn't swap players in the backfield. I cited an example to show that he does, going even further to swap CB to S. So much for not swapping. My exact point was that he's flexible. And to raise the possibility that he might have CBs flip sided on Sunday contrary to prior assertions that he doesn't do that.

The game in question was the Law 3 picks against Manning. Much was written about swapping Ty Law around and how it confused PM.
 
Re: pass rush...

Matt Birk got destroyed by Vince last year. Hoping for more of the same.

Regards,
Chris
 
Which Jones brother has the better game on the DL? Let's hope Chandler wins that honor.

Regards,
Chris
 
This could be a game where they unleash/move Wilfork around to create some matchup problems and push the middle to get Flacco off his spot.

Like the thoughts on the backfield on D.
 
Would love to see Hightower and Ninko try the Smith Bros move.

Hightower has the mammoth build to pull it off.
 
This is what I am thinking as well. We are young on offense for the most part and the key playmakers for the Baltimore defense are near the end of their careers if not retiring.

We lost to them by one point with a very different corp of DB's than we have now. And let's not forget that 4th quarter collapse when we were leading 30-21. there were two very crucial penalties by McCourty, a DPI and a holding.

Also it was the last game refereed by replacement officials who were clearly out of their elements and completely unprepared to deal with such an intense playoff-level type of game.

Also Webb their top CB is out. McClain is also out. Even when Webb was there, Welker schooled him for 142 yards. Who covers Welker now? Lloyd also had 108 yards in the game.

Also I don't think our running game is going to post a pathetic 2.3 YPC again (most of that was because of Ridley). Vereen has more than emerged, and Woodhead is there as a tool. We also have a healthy Hernandez. Like Ken I expect to see more wheels, shovels, and screens.
Next stop: superbowl.

Really anything to do with misdirection, I expect to see. Their defense is older and slower. Let's get them running sideline to sideline and chasing our faster backs, slot receivers, and TE's.
 
Great post Ken.

I'm still slightly worried about this offense sans Gronk. I know we've been productive without him, but man he makes a difference.

I agree if McD, Brady & BB can install some 2RB stuff this week to take advantage of the mismatches those guys have, we can mitigate the loss of Gronk.

We blindsided the league with the spread in 2007. We blindsided the league with the 2TE in 2010.

Could this be a case where an obviously huge misfortune in losing Gronk forces our offensive brainpower into adapting and evolving in January in a way that makes the Patriots as equally difficult to defend? Is there enough time to even pull this off? Do we even need to? Can we run what we've run all year and is our personnel good enough.

It's going to be an interesting final few weeks. You got San Fran hurting teams with the pistol, now you got the Patriots having to scrap or adapt their 2TE stuff and find a way to involve their RBs. While the outcome of our playoff runs of late have largely been dictated by execution, I think Belichick the mad-scientist might determine our fate.
 
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First of all, I give Ray Lewis props on being a tremendous football player and one of the best to ever play his position, BUT if there's one thing that pi$$es me off is how much ball-washing he's getting and his past doesn't even come up. The guy is f#%$ing criminal and the only retirement party he should be receiving is one that involves an orange jumpsuit and ankle chains. F you Ray Lewis, you're a fraud and a low-life thug. If karma really does exist then seeing him and the Ravens lose on Sunday would be a step in the right direction.
 
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Could this be a case where an obviously huge misfortune in losing Gronk forces our offensive brainpower into adapting and evolving in January in a way that makes the Patriots as equally difficult to defend? Is there enough time to even pull this off? Do we even need to? Can we run what we've run all year and is our personnel good enough.
it took the Patriots O about 2 series to adjust their game plan from a 2TE set with Gronk and possibly featuring Woodhead (though Vereen may have played part of that game plan)

I recall watching some ESPN (don't shoot me) and Merril Hoge of all people was in awe of what they did...and still putting up 41 points. When you get Hoge saying great things about the pats, it means 2 things.

1) The Steelers are no longer in the Playoffs :D
2) It must have been fairly impressive
 
Ravens D vs the Pat O

Forget about the any past results - They have no bearing. I think a better look at what we might see on Sunday from the Ravens could be seen last Sunday in Denver. The Pats run the ball very differently from Denver, but our passing attack is very similar in that Manning is patient and likes to work the short and intermediate routes. Decker is a WR, but runs a lot of Hernandez like routes. Stokely is Welker like, and although DT can go deep, Manning rarely gives him the chance.

It was interesting to see that for the most part in order to keep DT under control, the Ravens chose to go with a man under 2 deep zone being very physical with the receivers and forcing Manning to throw into tight windows for completions.

I think that although the Pat don't present the obvious deep threat,. I think they will see something similar. The Ravens don't have an great rush, Kruger and Suggs are good enough that if the coverage is good, they can eventually create pressure. Their rush in that respect is very much like ours. Playing man under makes it tougher for Brady to throw those quick hitches and hinders the screens. Playing man under makes it easier for people to get into the correct alignment when the Pats go up tempo. So for all those reasons that's what I think we'll see as a base defense. They'll blitz, but they've played us enough not to exceed 20%, and on those 3rd downs, I wouldn't be surprised to see them double Wes and Aaron and play with a single safety and dare Brady to go long

Gronk would have been the match up that would have destroyed this plan, but he aint going to be walking through that door, so there is not use whining about it. (even thought I just did . ;) ) No, but I think we saw a prevue of what IS going to break that defense, and that's the great focus on the RB's in the passing game. Not so much the screens, but the dump offs and wheel routes and slipping them into areas that have been cleared out by Hernandez and Welker

The other thing that will kill this concept is the stretch play and play action passes. Man under coverage is tough on the short passing game, but its a liability in the run game, because the DB defenders are run off the LOS, so if the RB breaks through the front 7, there is more room to run. And the obvious advantage on play action speaks for itself.

Right now Josh and Daboll are basically creating a run and passing attack that will break all the keys that the Ravens THINK they have going into the game. There is NOTHING more demoralizing to a defense then when they realize that their keys don't work. You can't fly to the ball when that happens. Hesitation will become a killer against this offense.

The Ravens gave up close to 120 rushing yds against Denver. with their 3rd string rookie RB getting most of the yardage. The Pats have a vastly superior running attack, and this is really the Ravens Achilles heel that will open door for the rest of the offense to flow, and ultimately wear out a Ravens defense that has taken a lot of shots the last 2 games

The Ravens O vs the Pat D.

You have to be impressed with the job the Ravens OL did vs one of the best pass rushes in the league. You really can't expect the Pats 4 man rush to do any better. Realistically if the Pats want to create real pressure on Flacco they are going to have to scheme to do it. And there are 2 ways. One way is to use an amoeba type front with 6 or 7 people in position to rush, and send 4 and try and confuse the Ravens OL, or scheme a 5 or 6 man blitz.

Remember it is more important to create the SENSE of pressure than it is to actually get there. Flacco is at his best when he has time and can get comfortable in the pocket. Somehow the Pats have to create enough pressure to make Flacco want to get rid of the ball more quickly than he'd like. IMHO, Birk is the weakest link in that OL and I'd attack him directly

In the secondary the Pats have to make a dangerous choice. Do you put Talib on Boldin or Smith. Smith is clearly the deep threat, but I don't like the idea of a Dennard/Boldin match up. I will get tired very fast watching Boldin simply taking the ball away from the diminutive Dennard. Instead I think you trust Talib to match up with Boldin, who is a slower version of AJohnson, and put Dennard on Smith with help over the top from McCourty.

Ray Rice is a formidable RB, but so was Andre Foster. While Ray got 130 yd rushing on 30 carries (4.3 ypc) over a third of them came on 2 rushes, I don't see him as a key to a Ravens victory. I believe the Pats run defense is good enough to control Ray's success.

IMHO a key under reported stat from the Denver game was the fact that the Ravens didn't have a sustained drive over 45 yds. Of the 4 Tds the offense got, only one was a redzone TD, and that was set up by a 31 yd run by Rice.

The fact is the Ravens are not going to beat us unless they are able to break off big chunks of yds at a time. They aren't going to beat us trying to grind and pound it, nor are they going to beat us relying on Flacco's patience and accuracy dinking and dunking. Don't forget he only threw for 53% in Denver.

So for that reason, I'd like to see some version of man under, or 5 under zone with 2 deep safeties as a base and challenge Flacco to go deep, and force him to throw to tight windows underneath. In the latter he's no Brady, and in the former I trust McCourty to make the plays that the Broncos didn't. On of Smith's TD, there wasn't a S to be seen. As far as the front 7 are concerned I'd like to see a lot of varied fronts designed to confuse blocking schemes.

Other key points

1. Clearly the coverage teams have to be better
2; Obviously he can't lose the turn over battle

3. And less obviously we can't give up more penalty yds. Denver had over 30 yds more in penalties than the Ravens. That's a LOT.

4. Before I wrote this I watched NBC's sports channel's Turning point. Its a good show. In it they showed action from all for games. As well as showing the key plays, they also show a lot of the talk and chatter from the players. If you caught the Denver/Raven segment and aren't from Baltimore, you are just going to hate Terrell Suggs, who somehow had the focus and energy to jaw with the Bronco fans near the Raven bench ALL game.

I pray to god, that there are some fans who will give Terrell some payback when he begins to realize (early in the 4th quarter, I believe) that the it sin't gong to happen again.

BOTTOM LINE – While how well the Raven OL defended the Bronco pass rush, scares me a bit, I'm pretty comfortable in my belief that the Pats are going to cover....at least. I see a really closely contested first half, as the Pats have to withstand the initial emotional burst by the Ravens, but the Pats are going to bein to pull away in the 3rd and by 4th quarter we are to be able to relax and start thinking about our superbowl opponent.....and have a great retirement Ray.

Thank you! Great analysis! The way Ravens fans, mediots in ESPN and even in NE are talking up the Ravens Defense, I am getting sick in my stomach.

Ravens O has great weapons and they are going all out and airing it out. Their D has several smart veteran players. I don't doubt the game can go either way if we make too mistakes.

But listening to scoundrels such as Felger who talks like a bozo "I don't like this player or their arrogance. Having said that they are going to Win this". I wish some one gives him a hard slap and make the idiot and ask him to make few good points in support of his argument. Most of the idiots say "Their Defense is too good. Brady did not play well against them and we are done". That is it. That's their argument.

Ravens D may be good and smart but I saw Colts and Denver ran very good against them. We have to fight hard but we have smart, veteran players led by Wilfork, Brady, good OL, better Defense (better secondary) and better RBs. We will have to grind it out. No easy game but it will be hard fought.

Thanks for intelligent analysis.
 
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