The Ravens new explosive offense

[ctpatsfan77]

We need Mcourty to really ballhawk the deep throws this game. One interception and Flacco's deep ball will shrivel.

Must . . . resist . . . obvious joke . . .

 

[DaBruinz]

After having actually WATCHED the last two Ravens games, I can say that, without a doubt, Jim Caldwell is worse as an OC than as a HC. There is no ingenuity to his offensive play calling. He's horrible. He goes to the long game only in desperation and the players make him look good. Most of them come on 3rd down when the Ravens are in 3rd and long situations. It's ridiculous..

 

[BrickPat]

To those poo pooing the Ravens' offense please remember the Pats were one muffed kick away from elimination against last season's "less explosive" offense.

 

[Uncle Rico]

To those poo pooing the Ravens' offense please remember the Pats were one muffed kick away from elimination against last season's "less explosive" offense.

Could make a pretty good case the Pats D has also improved significantly since that game.

 

[Afam]

What explosive Offense. This must be a joke right?. The Ravens offense is A Chuck it to Boldin, B Ray rice runs with the ball and C Chuck it to Boldin again.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Hah -- watching Troy Brown and he says the Pats slogan or this game should be "G.T.F.B ... get the bleep back." Pretty funny.

 

[TFB*]

We need Mcourty to really ballhawk the deep throws this game. One interception and Flacco's deep ball will shrivel.

I think DMC is going to have a monster game. He'll be in centerfield all day long and Flacco will essentially have to challenge two CBs on one WR if he wishes to go deep.

Ravens fans think Devin is a very mediocre safety. Im hoping theyre in for a huge surprise.

Excellent speed, good ball skills and great instincts at safety already. BB says hes one of the smartest defensive players he's coached. See: Houston pick in the endzone, game 1.

 

[TFB*]

To those poo pooing the Ravens' offense please remember the Pats were one muffed kick away from elimination against last season's "less explosive" offense.

As a Pats fan, I cant believe you have been brainwashed by the media.

We were one muffed kick away from overtime... not elimination.

 

[Wax Frog]

Must . . . resist . . . obvious joke . . .

Must resist urge to re post Joe Theismann pic

 

[kkpat]

As a Pats fan, I cant believe you have been brainwashed by the media.

We were one muffed kick away from overtime... not elimination.

Good point

The perennial loser teams and their fans, losers in media including losers of Boston media who can't stand BB (and his success), will jump on us if it is close victory or last minute victory. They will be all over us if we blow a team and start crying "BB ran up the score". If you keep these losers on mind, they will be whining and crying 24x7.

 

[brdmaverick]

I'm not sure why we would even attempt to disregard the Raven's offensive performances in the past few weeks. After all, if they did it to the Giants, Colts, and Broncos, why CAN'T it happen to the Patriots, too? Because we have more faith in our secondary than those other teams did? I'm sure those other teams also felt good about their defense's ability to contain the Ravens offense. After all, apparently Champ Bailey was absolutely convinced he would shut down Torrey Smith, and we all see what happened there.

Why can't we just acknowledge that the Ravens offense has been playing well and should concern the Patriots defense? Let's not write those performances off as a fluke, the results speak for themselves.

Who knows, right now the Baltimore fans could be trying to theorize how the Patriots offense isn't as good as the results of showed either. Their arguments could be.....

1.) Their offense destroyed Houston twice, but Houston was playing a terrible stretch.
2.) The offense struggled in both the Jaguars game and in the San Fran game (until SF went into prevent mode).
3.) The Miami finale can be discreditted because that was a glorified scrimmage.

They could making all the above points, but they would be wrong to convince themselves that the Pats are not good offensively.

 

[JackBauer]

I'm not sure why we would even attempt to disregard the Raven's offensive performances in the past few weeks. After all, if they did it to the Giants, Colts, and Broncos, why CAN'T it happen to the Patriots, too? Because we have more faith in our secondary than those other teams did? I'm sure those other teams also felt good about their defense's ability to contain the Ravens offense. After all, apparently Champ Bailey was absolutely convinced he would shut down Torrey Smith, and we all see what happened there.

Why can't we just acknowledge that the Ravens offense has been playing well and should concern the Patriots defense? Let's not write those performances off as a fluke, the results speak for themselves.

Who knows, right now the Baltimore fans could be trying to theorize how the Patriots offense isn't as good as the results of showed either. Their arguments could be.....

1.) Their offense destroyed Houston twice, but Houston was playing a terrible stretch.
2.) The offense struggled in both the Jaguars game and in the San Fran game (until SF went into prevent mode).
3.) The Miami finale can be discreditted because that was a glorified scrimmage.

They could making all the above points, but they would be wrong to convince themselves that the Pats are not good offensively.

Who exactly are you arguing against here?

 

[BrickPat]

As a Pats fan, I cant believe you have been brainwashed by the media.

We were one muffed kick away from overtime... not elimination.

The fact that I was mistaken does not equate to being brainwashed by the media. You are correct the fact the WR could not hold to the ball ensured the kick would've only tied it, I stand corrected. Anyone who dares bring up that the Pats did not dominate that game and were fortunate to win is either a chicken little or a media lemming, is that how it goes?

It's ok to predict that the Pats will win and that it will be a very tough game, really it's ok, no one will show up at your door to confiscate your SuperFan membership card.

 

[Deus Irae]

The fact that I was mistaken does not equate to being brainwashed by the media. You are correct the fact the WR could not hold to the ball ensured the kick would've only tied it, I stand corrected. Anyone who dares bring up that the Pats did not dominate that game and were fortunate to win is either a chicken little or a media lemming, is that how it goes?

No, you made an argument that was obvservably incorrect, and you got called on it. That's how it goes.

It's ok to predict that the Pats will win and that it will be a very tough game, really it's ok, no one will show up at your door to confiscate your SuperFan membership card.

Is it also ok to note that the Ravens only won, and had those numbers, in Denver because a safety blew a gimme play? Is it ok to note that the Ravens only put up 24 points against the Colts? It it ok to note that they only put up 17 against the Bengals?

 

[BaltimoreFan]

[/QUOTE] Is it also ok to note that the Ravens only won, and had those numbers, in Denver because a safety blew a gimme play? Is it ok to note that the Ravens only put up 24 points against the Colts? It it ok to note that they only put up 17 against the Bengals?[/QUOTE]

Ravens fan here, just lurking. Youve got to be kidding me with the Bengals comment right? With saying stuff like this you will no longer be taken serious. Look at the game we actually participated in, we BLEW them out. We didnt care about that game and it was evident in us resting starters after a few series. We wanted the Colts and thought that was our best chance. Heres to an injury free game Sunday and may the best team win.

It will go down a bit different than this forum thinks, thats for sure.

Good day now.

 

[Deus Irae]

Ravens fan here, just lurking. Youve got to be kidding me with the Bengals comment right? With saying stuff like this you will no longer be taken serious. Look at the game we actually participated in, we BLEW them out. We didnt care about that game and it was evident in us resting starters after a few series. We wanted the Colts and thought that was our best chance. Heres to an injury free game Sunday and may the best team win.

It will go down a bit different than this forum thinks, thats for sure.

Good day now.

What I wrote was accurate. What you're writing is a justification. There's nothing wrong with offering one, but the facts remain the facts. If you're talking about the "new" offense, you're talking about the games from Denver onward:

17
33
17
24
38 (5+ quarters)

That's up and down, and not particularly explosive. Given the thread title, I'd say that's relevant.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Let's look at some more numbers and compare the offenses.

Yardage

1st Patriots 427.9 ypg
16th Ravens 352.5 ypg

Points

1st Patriots 34.8 ppg
10th Ravens 24.9 ppg

3rd Down
1st Patriots 49%
20th Ravens 37%

Time of Possession
11th Patriots 30:56
29th Ravens 28:40

Passing
4th Patriots 4,662 yards and 34 TDs
15th Ravens 3,739 yards and 22 TDs

Rushing
7th Patriots 2,184 yards and 25 TDs
11th Ravens 1,901 yards and 17 TDs

Basically in every offensive statistic imaginable, the Patriots offense vastly outclasses the Ravens offense. The only category where they are even somewhat close is rushing, where the Pats still score 50% more TDs on the ground than the Ravens do.

And the Ravens fans don't think we can run the ball on them? They are sadly mistaken if they think they can stop this year's edition of the Patriots offense by selling out against the pass ONLY.

If you want explosive offense, the Pats are the definition of that. The Ravens offense is more like mediocre to slightly above average. The Ravens score TEN points per game less on average than the Pats. Even COUNTING the playoffs. Remember that the Pats put up a 40 burger on the Texans D.

One reason the Ravens don't score as much is that they don't sustain drives due to their low 3rd down percentage. And if you can't keep Brady off the field, I have news for you, that 'gimmick' offense will put up 30-40 on the Ravens this Sunday.

Bottom line. These teams tend to play close, but I just don't see Flacco keeping up with Brady in a shootout.

[Regular season stats courtesy of nfl.com]

 

[i82much]

What I wrote was accurate. What you're writing is a justification. There's nothing wrong with offering one, but the facts remain the facts. If you're talking about the "new" offense, you're talking about the games from Denver onward:

17
33
17
24
38 (5+ quarters)

That's up and down, and not particularly explosive. Given the thread title, I'd say that's relevant.

Well, sure, but that's the thing with small sample sizes. In that sample, game (1) was Caldwell's first game as OC, game (3) the starters were rested, and game (4) wasn't that close - offense is trying to shorten the game, not score points. You could also look at those numbers and say hey, after week 1, Caldwell's offense has figured out how to score points when we need them.

Of course, fans from both sides will always gravitate to the statistics that favor them. I do the same.

 

[Deus Irae]

Well, sure, but that's the thing with small sample sizes. In that sample, game (1) was Caldwell's first game as OC, game (3) the starters were rested, and game (4) wasn't that close - offense is trying to shorten the game, not score points. You could also look at those numbers and say hey, after week 1, Caldwell's offense has figured out how to score points when we need them.

Of course, fans from both sides will always gravitate to the statistics that favor them. I do the same.

I didn't set the parameters here, though. They were set by the link in the OP, and my initial point was just about BrickPat being wrong in his post. Sure, you can make the Ravens look fairly explosive if you take away the low scoring games and don't acknowledge the OT factor against the Ravens. I could say that the Patriots averaged 50ppg, too, if I just ignored most of the games the Patriots played.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

Is it also ok to note that the Ravens only won, and had those numbers, in Denver because a safety blew a gimme play? Is it ok to note that the Ravens only put up 24 points against the Colts? It it ok to note that they only put up 17 against the Bengals?[/QUOTE]

Ravens fan here, just lurking. Youve got to be kidding me with the Bengals comment right? With saying stuff like this you will no longer be taken serious. Look at the game we actually participated in, we BLEW them out. We didnt care about that game and it was evident in us resting starters after a few series. We wanted the Colts and thought that was our best chance. Heres to an injury free game Sunday and may the best team win.

It will go down a bit different than this forum thinks, thats for sure.

Good day now. [/QUOTE]

Apparently, this guy thinks the Pats will come away with a three score blowout win.