Chris Gasper: Brady went to bat for Welker at halftime of Cardinals game

[Deus Irae]

According to Gasper (on the radio just now), Brady said "enough's enough". Does anyone know this story?

 

[sevengables_2207]

According to Gasper (on the radio just now), Brady said "enough's enough". Does anyone know this story?

This is the first I have heard of that, but it raises more questions than answers for me.

Does anyone know why Welker had his snaps curtailed at the beginning of the year?

Were the coaches that much more confident in Edelman? Was it something to do with the contract negotiations (or lack thereof)?

 

[Shockt327]

I've never understood this speculation about Welker being phased out....

Against the Titans, Welker was targeted 5 times. Too low? Well Gronk only got 6 targets. Were they trying to phase him out too?

Aganist the Cards, Welker was targeted 11 times. Problem was he only caught 5 of them. That's not on the coaches, that's on him. It was a bad game for him. It happens. The following week he looked fine.

I couldn't stand all the manufactured speculation. It was all due to jerk media personalities, like Michael Felger, who are constantly looking for topics to harp on about.

 

[HowardRoark]

I've never understood this speculation about Welker being phased out....

Against the Titans, Welker was targeted 5 times. Too low? Well Gronk only got 6 targets. Were they trying to phase him out too?

Aganist the Cards, Welker was targeted 11 times. Problem was he only caught 5 of them. That's not on the coaches, that's on him. It was a bad game for him. It happens. The following week he looked fine.

I couldn't stand all the manufactured speculation. It was all due to jerk media personalities, like Michael Felger, who are constantly looking for topics to harp on about.

The issue wasn't the amount of targets, it was the amount of snaps played. They were limiting Welker from even being on the field. That is not from any media garbage, this was from my own observation watching the game(s).

 

[Deus Irae]

I've never understood this speculation about Welker being phased out....

Against the Titans, Welker was targeted 5 times. Too low? Well Gronk only got 6 targets. Were they trying to phase him out too?

Aganist the Cards, Welker was targeted 11 times. Problem was he only caught 5 of them. That's not on the coaches, that's on him. It was a bad game for him. It happens. The following week he looked fine.

I couldn't stand all the manufactured speculation. It was all due to jerk media personalities, like Michael Felger, who are constantly looking for topics to harp on about.

It wasn't manufactured. McDaniels acknowledged it. That's well worn territory.

 

[patfanken]

What it IS, is just another mediot creating a story from pure conjecture. Based on the stats that Shock provided the evidence just doesn't match the claim.

I imagine that I could take the fact of Welker's limited play in the pre-season and reduced snaps in the first game as "clear" evidence that there was something physically wrong with Welker early in the season. The fact I have absolutely no evidence that that was the case, doesn't make my conjecture and less valid than Gasper.

But what is clear is that Gasper will benefit from it, just like the CHB did with his piece of drivel. Who knows, its only Saturday. By tomorrow, the story could go national, and CBS will give Gasper some face time before the big game.

 

[Shockt327]

It wasn't manufactured. McDaniels acknowledged it. That's well worn territory.

McDaniels admitted to trying to phase out Welker?

You got a link to back that up?

More like you are taking an innocent quote and reading way too much into it.

 

[RayClay]

They were obviously taking a look at Edelman, the snaps had to come from somewhere. They have contract and personnel issues. Edelman seemed to benefit from the extra work and Welker seemed to get an extra chip on his shoulder.

There will always be these issues and hurt feelings, but the Pats seem to handle them well IMO. Other teams avoid issues of players getting older or expensive and end up making huge mistakes. I hope the pats decided Welker is really different and worth at least two years (on top of that franchise money from this year).

 

[Get it shawtaay]

Is there a "source" for this? Not that I usually expect quality journalism from Gasper...

 

[shmessy]

What it IS, is just another mediot creating a story from pure conjecture. Based on the stats that Shock provided the evidence just doesn't match the claim.

I imagine that I could take the fact of Welker's limited play in the pre-season and reduced snaps in the first game as "clear" evidence that there was something physically wrong with Welker early in the season. The fact I have absolutely no evidence that that was the case, doesn't make my conjecture and less valid than Gasper.

But what is clear is that Gasper will benefit from it, just like the CHB did with his piece of drivel. Who knows, its only Saturday. By tomorrow, the story could go national, and CBS will give Gasper some face time before the big game.

I remember Reiss speculating that Welker got a concussion in the 8/23(?) preseason game and that this was the source.

 

[randomk1]

They were obviously taking a look at Edelman, the snaps had to come from somewhere. They have contract and personnel issues. Edelman seemed to benefit from the extra work and Welker seemed to get an extra chip on his shoulder.

There will always be these issues and hurt feelings, but the Pats seem to handle them well IMO. Other teams avoid issues of players getting older or expensive and end up making huge mistakes. I hope the pats decided Welker is really different and worth at least two years (on top of that franchise money from this year).

I hope they get it done. There really haven't been any signs of him slowing down like it was with Moss and even now with the duo TEs he is still the most consistent player on the offense.

 

[SVN]

I expected and still expect some BS to come from the media regarding the pats tomorrow from jay glayzer but i guess gasper started early. In 2010 it was glayzer who before the game said even pats were involved in tripping incident.I dread what he has in store for us tomorrow

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I hope they get it done. There really haven't been any signs of him slowing down like it was with Moss and even now with the duo TEs he is still the most consistent player on the offense.

Me too. Hobbits age more slowly than humans.

 

[DocHoliday]

Sounds like manufactured garbage to me.

 

[Rob0729]

I don't know if this story was true or not and whether the Pats did phase Welker out of the offense early was true or not; the reasoning that they did it as some sort of punishment is 100% manufactured. There is zero evidence that that was the reasoning. In fact, evidence shows the opposite. It seemed pretty clear the Pats were trying to build other parts of the offense early so the Pats weren't so reliant on Welker, Gronk, and Hernandez that killed the Pats in the Super Bowl last year.

 

[fnordcircle]

I'm glad the media and fans have this to focus on because there's nothing else going on around the league or with the Patriots right now.

 

[juny]

I've never understood this speculation about Welker being phased out....

Against the Titans, Welker was targeted 5 times. Too low? Well Gronk only got 6 targets. Were they trying to phase him out too?

Aganist the Cards, Welker was targeted 11 times. Problem was he only caught 5 of them. That's not on the coaches, that's on him. It was a bad game for him. It happens. The following week he looked fine.

I couldn't stand all the manufactured speculation. It was all due to jerk media personalities, like Michael Felger, who are constantly looking for topics to harp on about.

One MAJOR reason Welker was targeted more in the AZ game is because Hernandez was taken out by his own player (Edelman) very early in the game. At that point, they had no choice but to play Welker more. I won't even guess at the reasons why, but there was a clear emphasis of less Welker in the beginning of the season.

 

[Triumph]

Link????

If you cannot provide a link or some evidence of this event it never happened unless your name rhymes with Andy Johnson.

 

[Deus Irae]

McDaniels admitted to trying to phase out Welker?

You got a link to back that up?

More like you are taking an innocent quote and reading way too much into it.

Feel free to go look it up in the early Welker threads. The cutting of Welker's playing time was deliberate. However, what I was asking about in this thread was regarding specific comments made today by Gasper about Brady going to bad for Welker at halftime of the Cardinals game.

 

[Ive_Killed_People]

Feel free to go look it up in the early Welker threads. The cutting of Welker's playing time was deliberate. However, what I was asking about in this thread was regarding specific comments made today by Gasper about Brady going to bad for Welker at halftime of the Cardinals game.

YOU, cite your own sources. Sounds like something you made up to me.......Jets fan