Tom Brady doesn't make All-Pro team

[MoneyFX]

Yeah but if you think about it, the great Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick!!! A 6th round draft pick!!! How is he supposed to be this good?

 

[PeerlessKid]

When will the values of this so called Pro-Bowl and All-Pro selections lose their worth? At what point do their significance in judging a player lose merit?

But then again I look at the fuss the Oscars get every year despite the constant mocking it rightly gets.

Not worth getting fussed over, over hyped and of no value. Let's win #4, and let the losers worry about how many 'All-Pro' players they have in their roster.

 

[jmt57]

First of all, congrats to Big Vince.


So all the people complaining about Sherman not making the Pro Bowl apparently made their voices heard. He doesn't make the larger Pro Bowl roster, but does make the smaller All Pro team.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.


As far as the three quarterbacks go, no matter who doesn't make it then there is going to be an upset fan base with a legitimate gripe. It's kind of a no-win situation, no matter who you leave out.


While we can say Pro Bowl and All Pro teams are silly and ridiculous - which at times is true when you look at some of the players that make those rosters and who gets left off - for some reason they then become incredibly important when it comes to Hall of Fame nominations and voting for many people making those decisions.

 

[PeerlessKid]

First of all, congrats to Big Vince.


So all the people complaining about Sherman not making the Pro Bowl apparently made their voices heard. He doesn't make the larger Pro Bowl roster, but does make the smaller All Pro team.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.


As far as the three quarterbacks go, no matter who doesn't make it then there is going to be an upset fan base with a legitimate gripe. It's kind of a no-win situation, no matter who you leave out.

The difference being the fan base with legitimate gripe and those without.
Brady and Gronk not being selected = legitimate.

 

[Deus Irae]

The AP did not do itself proud with this year's voting. The Manning voting was a joke, but it wasn't the only instance of poor decisionmaking.

 

[Deus Irae]

First of all, congrats to Big Vince.


So all the people complaining about Sherman not making the Pro Bowl apparently made their voices heard. He doesn't make the larger Pro Bowl roster, but does make the smaller All Pro team.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.


As far as the three quarterbacks go, no matter who doesn't make it then there is going to be an upset fan base with a legitimate gripe. It's kind of a no-win situation, no matter who you leave out.


While we can say Pro Bowl and All Pro teams are silly and ridiculous - which at times is true when you look at some of the players that make those rosters and who gets left off - for some reason they then become incredibly important when it comes to Hall of Fame nominations and voting for many people making those decisions.

Here's the thing, IMO: Both Brady and Rodgers should have beaten out Manning. However, even if someone wanted to argue that Manning deserved it over one of them, there's no way to honestly justify the voting pattern on the basis of the QB play this season. It would be one thing if the voting was won by a razor thin margin. The fact that Manning beat two superior QBs in a blowout is a joke, and it takes away from the legitimacy of the award.

 

[BSR]

4. Gronk missed more than a third of the season and STILL wound up with more TDs than any TE in the league. Is STILL a better blocker than Witten and Gonsalez, and is STILL not on the team. Oops what hope I had in the process has just been taken away.

This is by far the most remarkable. Nobody in their right minds would have Witten or Gonzales over Gronk on their team. The guy is unstoppable in the red zone and is a monster blocking, even with one hand. Is there really any question who the best TE in football is right now?

I love how the article starts off criticizing the fan voting when the AP voting is almost just as bad.

 

[Sparetire]

I bet tom is crying right now for this atrocity.

 

[DarrylS]

Bulletin board material...

Can play the disrepect card...

 

[patriotsdynasty12189]

Rogers also had to deal with many more injuries on the offensive side of the ball then Brady. Jennings Nelson missed alot of the season while they were just throwing running backs out there

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

3. I'm thrilled London Fletcher was selected. Its the kind of selection that gives me hope. Ray Lewis gets all the accolades but its London Fletcher who keeps piling up the stats. They are both 37, but Fletcher is by far the better LB at this point.....and he might have always been the better LB, just without the great PR guy.

PWP: My precise reaction as well. Fletcher @ 37 is still awesome.

4. Gronk missed more than a third of the season and STILL wound up with more TDs than any TE in the league. Is STILL a better blocker than Witten and Gonsalez, and is STILL not on the team. Oops what hope I had in the process has just been taken away.

Gronk not picked?!?

Gronk NOT happy!

Gronk feelings hurt!

Gronk make pass defenders hurt!!!

Gronk happy again!

 

[PatsFanSince74]

If Brady's QB rating were seven points higher than Manning's and if the Pats had won more games than the Broncos, we'd all be screaming that TB deserved it if he'd gotten it.

One thing to do now. Beat Manning again in the AFCCG and remind everyone of who is really the best.

 

[Nikolai]

Fact is that everyone is used to excellence with TFB. His TD-INT rates are historic but becoming routine. Actually, I can see the same thing happening with Rodgers down the road.

Hey, if these awards were designated properly, BB would be coach of the year on an nearly annual basis.

 

[RobertWeathers]

We can all agree that TB isn't the kind of selfish QB who expects individual awards to flow to him however...

Manning and Rodgers are deserving of consideration.

But you know deep down this annoys TB just a little....

 

[Observer]

Meh... wake me up when Brady wins the Superbowl. And Congratulations Vince Wilfork, well deserved!

 

[Buchanty]

It is frustrating when such selections are closer to beauty pageants and popularity contests than they are examinations of skills and achievements. But having said that I have to point out that there are exceptions such as Wilfork, who is not a particular fan favorite but highly respected by his peers. For him the honor is well deserved, and the same goes for London Fletcher.

This will be Manning's 6th 1st Team All-Pro, and Rogers 2nd (albeit one each of 1st and 2nd teams). Brady has the same number as Rogers (though 2 1st teams). While TB may have fallen short this year if only by a hair, the bigger disrespect is that for his career he still only has 2 selections compared to two other QB's whose total SB rings (2) still don't add up to his (3). History will question that disparity and look for rationalization, but it wont redress the injury.

I imagine if TB had played for almost any other team than a Boston based one he would have drawn equal to Manning. I suspect that Manning gets a lot of NY votes, as they would never vote for a NE candidate. Peyton probably gets all of the southern votes (the NOLA and Tennessee links) and splits the West. Neutral geographies may be evenly split too. Living close to NY, as I do, I sense the anti-Boston sports mania which is all too tangible.

Now how to explain Mankins ......?

 

[The Gr8est]

Yeah but if you think about it, the great Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick!!! A 6th round draft pick!!! How is he supposed to be this good?

Yeah he wasn't "shiny", but let's not sound like Rats fans.

 

[ivanvamp]

When will the values of this so called Pro-Bowl and All-Pro selections lose their worth? At what point do their significance in judging a player lose merit?

But then again I look at the fuss the Oscars get every year despite the constant mocking it rightly gets.

Not worth getting fussed over, over hyped and of no value. Let's win #4, and let the losers worry about how many 'All-Pro' players they have in their roster.

The only reason to fuss over things like pro bowl and all-pro selections is when it comes down to a player's hall of fame credentials. The voters do tend to look at those kinds of things...how many times a player was an all-pro, etc. So if you get snubbed, it could have ramifications down the road.

Obviously it's not going to stop a guy like Brady from getting in, but it could help a guy like Mankins. Brady has a dump truck full of records and overwhelming stats, but O-linemen have no stats. All we have to go on is our recollection of how good they were and things like pro bowl and all-pro selections.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

brady is just expected to me great and has been for 10+ years...people get sick of it

 

[patfanken]

Fletcher has been criminally underrated his entire career, but let's not be ridiculous.

Its not ridiculous at all. Just compare the stats. Compare the fact that since 2002 Fletcher has been forced to play on horrible Bills and Skins teams, playing in multiple defenses under many DC's while Lewis played just for the Ravens on what has been a perennial top 10 Defense, playing in basically the same defense his entire career. Finally I doubt Fletcher played that many years in defenses specifically designed to protect him from direct contact. IIRC the few times they tried to play him as a straight 3-4 ILB, they found he couldn't take on OG's directly.

Hey Jack, I'm not saying Lewis isn't one of the all time greats. What I'm saying is that London Fletcher, right now, is better than he is. And if you look at their comparative careers, he might have been just a good.....if not better.

"Fletcher has been CRIMINALLY underrated his entire career", was succinct and articulate way to make my point, Jack. But no, it is definitely reasonable to compare the 2 career wise