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Well, no one expected Brace to be with the club past February anyway, and probably not to be on the active gameday roster. Sayonara. Chung is next. If the Pats don't keep Vollmer, that could mean all 4 of the 2009 2nd round picks are going after this year.

I'm a bit confused about Aiken. IIRC, Pats promoted him to the 53 man squad last week, he played 3 snaps against Jacksonville, then they cut him, he cleared waivers, they signed him to the PS, and they re-promoted him, all within a week. Seems like a lot of work to go through for a player to end up in exactly the same spot one week later. Why not just keep him on the squad? Did they ever actually use his spot for anyone, or was it just in case they didn't get a roster exemption for Cunningham?

I wondered about the Aiken moves too. If I had to guess, it was to keep him hungry all week. Someone else on the PS could just as easily been added.
 
Yikes. 09 not a good year:

Chung, Brace, Butler, Vollmer, Tate, McKenzie, Ohrnberger, Bussey, Ingram, Pryor, Edelman, Richard.
 
Yikes. 09 not a good year:

Chung, Brace, Butler, Vollmer, Tate, McKenzie, Ohrnberger, Bussey, Ingram, Pryor, Edelman, Richard.

Its so easy to look back though.

Vollmer, Edelman, and Pryor can't stay healthy. Brace, Butler, and Chung have what it takes physically but haven't put it together mentally. In Brace's case its laziness, in Butler's case its confidence (and he seems to be turning it around in Indy now), and in Chung's case he's apparently just dumb as a rock. Those are a lot of problems which aren't easy to vet out during the draft process.
 
Its so easy to look back though.

Vollmer, Edelman, and Pryor can't stay healthy. Brace, Butler, and Chung have what it takes physically but haven't put it together mentally. In Brace's case its laziness, in Butler's case its confidence (and he seems to be turning it around in Indy now), and in Chung's case he's apparently just dumb as a rock. Those are a lot of problems which aren't easy to vet out during the draft process.

True. But my personal wish list for that draft was Sean Smith as my CB/S, Connor Barwin at OLB, and Mike Wallace at WR. So that one hurts a bit. I did, however, want William Beatty at OT over Vollmer.
 
True. But my personal wish list for that draft was Sean Smith as my CB/S, Connor Barwin at OLB, and Mike Wallace at WR. So that one hurts a bit. I did, however, want William Beatty at OT over Vollmer.

That would have been a draft haul worthy of Connor Barwin himself.
 
Yikes. 09 not a good year:

Chung, Brace, Butler, Vollmer, Tate, McKenzie, Ohrnberger, Bussey, Ingram, Pryor, Edelman, Richard.

Vollmer, Edelman, and Pryor were good picks. Considering Pryor and Edelman were late round picks, the fact that they are even sporadic contributors makes them very good picks. Most sixth and seventh round picks do nothing in this league. I would even argue that Edelman was a homerun as a seventh rounder. Vollmer has been a solid RT for most of his career.

I would label Chung a minor disappointment because he was a multiple year starter and up until this year he was at least serviceable. I felt at his best, he was an above average safety.

The rest of the draft was crap though.
 
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Nic Harris was originally a safety. His coverage skills made Pat Chung look like Ed Reed in comparison.

Having watched Harris for his entire career at OU that's not entirely true, and not totally wrong either.

He is an in the box strong safety. His coverage skills are average. He is not a horrible player by any stretch.
 
Having watched Harris for his entire career at OU that's not entirely true, and not totally wrong either.

He is an in the box strong safety. His coverage skills are average. He is not a horrible player by any stretch.

No, he was a decent player, he just couldn't cover, which is why he was moved to LB. He was one of many 6'3" 220#-230# safeties dreamed of as "the next Rodney" until people discovered that he had limited movement skills. Watching him do a backpedal at the Combine was practically comical. But he certainly had skills, just not coverage skills.
 
My guess - and it's just a guess, nothing more - is that it's more likely that they would promote Forston from the PS. Given that Brace has been a healthy scratch pretty much all season, I think Forston might offer more at this point.

But, he just needed moar time to figgur s h i t out... :eek:
 
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apparently just dumb as a rock. Those are a lot of problems which aren't easy to vet out during the draft process.

I would have to beg to differ on the intelligence part. There has to be a way to figure out if a player is smart enough to play for your team or not. I'm not even talking about the wonderlic. There has to be a way to decode dumb from people.
 
True. But my personal wish list for that draft was Sean Smith as my CB/S, Connor Barwin at OLB, and Mike Wallace at WR. So that one hurts a bit. I did, however, want William Beatty at OT over Vollmer.

Don't forget safety William Moore, a better player than Chung both in college and in the pros.
 
Its so easy to look back though.

Vollmer, Edelman, and Pryor can't stay healthy. Brace, Butler, and Chung have what it takes physically but haven't put it together mentally. In Brace's case its laziness, in Butler's case its confidence (and he seems to be turning it around in Indy now), and in Chung's case he's apparently just dumb as a rock. Those are a lot of problems which aren't easy to vet out during the draft process.

When you think about it, Ducks aren't exactly known for their smarts
 
Vollmer, Edelman, and Pryor were good picks. Considering Pryor and Edelman were late round picks, the fact that they are even sporadic contributors makes them very good picks.
Hard to assess Myron Pryor since he has played only two games in the last two years, the 2011 NFL season and the 2012 NFL season.
 
Saw in the up to the minute headline news that Ron Brace released, Cunningham Activated.

Seems like positive moves for us. Brace has been occupying space and maybe Cunningham can bring something.
 
Saw in the up to the minute headline news that Ron Brace released, Cunningham Activated.

Seems like positive moves for us. Brace has been occupying space and maybe Cunningham can bring something.

Cunningham has a lot to prove now post suspension.
 
Cunningham coming back is a huge addition we have missed him. Francis, Scott and Bequette have been unable to provide much when in the DT sub rushing role..
 
Cunningham will have "fresh legs". At this point in the season all the players have injuries of some sort but Cunningham will have had a heal.
 
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