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Where would you draft Colin Kaepernick in a 2011 re-draft?


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Kaepernick looked like a great talent out there, and maybe the answer to the fabled question "What if Tim Tebow could throw the ball?" I was impressed by his progressions, poise, pocket presence, and amazing arm strength. Of course, athletic talent is never low in supply at this position, and it will take awhile to see exactly how he deals with the 16-game schedule and influx of different defensive schemes.

So, I am curious, after seeing Kaepernick last night, are you surprised that he was a second round pick? Taking Kaepernick out of the equation, here is where I'd rank these other QBs in a "re-draft". Where would you put Kaepernick on the list?

REDRAFT

1. Cam Newton
2. Andy Dalton
3. Jake Locker
4. Ryan Mallett
5. Christian Ponder
6. Blaine Gabbert
7. Greg McElroy
8. TJ Yates
9. Ricky Stanzi
10. Tyrod Taylor
 
Kaepernick looked like a great talent out there, and maybe the answer to the fabled question "What if Tim Tebow could throw the ball?" I was impressed by his progressions, poise, pocket presence, and amazing arm strength. Of course, athletic talent is never low in supply at this position, and it will take awhile to see exactly how he deals with the 16-game schedule and influx of different defensive schemes.

So, I am curious, after seeing Kaepernick last night, are you surprised that he was a second round pick? Taking Kaepernick out of the equation, here is where I'd rank these other QBs in a "re-draft". Where would you put Kaepernick on the list?

REDRAFT

1. Cam Newton
2. Andy Dalton
3. Jake Locker
4. Ryan Mallett
5. Christian Ponder
6. Blaine Gabbert
7. Greg McElroy
8. TJ Yates
9. Ricky Stanzi
10. Tyrod Taylor

3rd right now, although to be fair to Locker, it's easier to look good for the 49'ers than it is the Titans.

On a side note, Ricky Stanzi must be really bad if he can't earn a snap for the last placed Chiefs.
 
I wouldn't've drafted'm at all.

I would've taken that juicy Package that the Miners presumably offered us ~ their 2nd, 4th, and 5th Round Picks ~ and PASSED on Ras I Dowling, thank you very much. I love Mad Bill, but that was a DUMB @$$ combination of moves.

And I sure's hell would've snagged My Boy Greg McElroy. :cool:
 
I wouldn't've drafted'm at all.

I would've taken that juicy Package that the Miners presumably offered us ~ their 2nd, 4th, and 5th Round Picks ~ and PASSED on Ras I Dowling, thank you very much. I love Mad Bill, but that was a DUMB @$$ combination of moves.

And I sure's hell would've snagged My Boy Greg McElroy. :cool:

Presuming you don't have Tom Brady already, and that your franchise needs a quarterback. I thought that was implied.
 
Presuming you don't have Tom Brady already, and that your franchise needs a quarterback. I thought that was implied.

Fair enough. :cool:

I took it in another direction.

Yet, ironically...my answer would be exactly the same.


I like Copernicus just fine...

But if I'm trying to develop a QB to win games in the Dark Depth of Winter...I prefer Greg McElroy. :cool:
 
He would be third right now, but I don't know if I would draft him though. He has a very good running game and an awesome defense. Put him on the Titans or Vikings and we might not be looking at him any more favorably than Ponder or Locker.

Also, he is an unique QB. It may be just a matter of getting more film on him before teams figure out how to shut him down.
 
San Fran has created the ideal situation for a young qb to develop.

dominant defense so you rarely have to win games by yourself
great o-line to give you lots of time and keep you upright
dominant running game to open play-action
dominant tight end to open up middle of the field options
a year on the bench to properly learn offense
great playcalling to give him the best chance for success

I mean, talk about a golden opportunity. He is doing well with it, but I would hope most qbs with talent would take advantage of this opportunity.
 
REDRAFT

1. Cam Newton
2. Andy Dalton
3. Jake Locker
4. Ryan Mallett
5. Christian Ponder
6. Blaine Gabbert
7. Greg McElroy
8. TJ Yates
9. Ricky Stanzi
10. Tyrod Taylor

What has McElroy done to deserve being ranked above Yates?
 
1. Andy Dalton
2. Cam Newton
3. Colin Kaepernick
4. Christian Ponder
5. Jake Locker
6. Ryan Mallett
7. Blaine Gabbert
8. TJ Yates
9. Greg McElroy
UDFA Ricky Stanzi
UDFA Tyrod Taylor
 
REDRAFT

1. Cam Newton
2. Andy Dalton
3. Jake Locker
4. Ryan Mallett
5. Christian Ponder
6. Blaine Gabbert
7. Greg McElroy
8. TJ Yates
9. Ricky Stanzi
10. Tyrod Taylor

I would put TJ Yates above Blaine Gabbert! And who the **** is Tyrod Taylor?
 
1. Andy Dalton
2. Cam Newton
3. Jake Locker
4. Christian Ponder
5. Colin Kaepernick
6. Blaine Gabbert
7. Greg McElroy
8. TJ Yates
9. Ryan Mallett
10. Ricky Stanzi
 
1. Andy Dalton
2. Cam Newton
3. Colin Kaepernick
4. Jake Locker
5. Christian Ponder
6. Greg McElroy
7. TJ Yates
8. Blaine Gabbert
9. Ricky Stanzi
10. Tyrod Taylor
 
I'm WAY off compared to you guys.

1. Newton
2. Kaepernick
3. Dalton
4. Locker
5. Mallett
6. Ponder
7. Gabbert

Don't want the others. Dalton doesn't have enough upside for me to go above the top two. Mallett has way too much upside to be below what some of you are putting above him.
 
Kaepernick holds slight athletic edge over Newton, trainer says-
Chip Smith might be the only man who has spent considerable time personally working out Cam Newton and Colin Kaepernick -- and he believes the Nevada quarterback is a superior athlete when compared to Auburn's Heisman Trophy winner.

"They're a lot alike in terms of being really special, and they're both extremely athletic," said Smith, founder of Duluth, Ga.-based Competitive Edge Sports. "But Colin is actually a little bit better athletically. He's a little faster -- I've clocked him as low as a 4.4 (-second runner in the 40-yard dash) -- and there isn't a quarterback in this draft who throws the ball with the velocity that Colin does. Colin is a better athlete, and he understands the game better."
 
Kaepernick holds slight athletic edge over Newton, trainer says-
Chip Smith might be the only man who has spent considerable time personally working out Cam Newton and Colin Kaepernick -- and he believes the Nevada quarterback is a superior athlete when compared to Auburn's Heisman Trophy winner.

"They're a lot alike in terms of being really special, and they're both extremely athletic," said Smith, founder of Duluth, Ga.-based Competitive Edge Sports. "But Colin is actually a little bit better athletically. He's a little faster -- I've clocked him as low as a 4.4 (-second runner in the 40-yard dash) -- and there isn't a quarterback in this draft who throws the ball with the velocity that Colin does. Colin is a better athlete, and he understands the game better."

Being slightly more athletic than the other guy when discussing qb's is irrelevant. It's all about their mental capacity to understand the game. They both have big arms too. So, that isn't going to factor in either. You can laugh if off. But, Kaepernicks fumbles under center would concern the hell out of me if I was a 49'er fan. I know it was raining. But, it rains a helluva lot in SF too. We'd be discussing a different tune if he loses 2 or 3 of those.
I put spaces between the groups because there's a pretty wide gap in the future potential of some of these guys.

Newton
Kaepernick


Dalton


Locker
Mallett



Gabbert
Ponder

For one of the other posters. Tyrod Taylor was a qb for Virginia Tech. Big kid. Just doesn't appear to have the grasp to run an NFL offense.
 


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