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[Bhelmet]

A WINNER. Oh, OK then. Maybe TFB can pick up some tips from him.

No - Brady is a winner as well. When Tebow has had the opportunity he has made the MOST of them - winning DESPITE critics/odds - much LIKE Brady (at the same point in his career).

 

[Ive_Killed_People]

Some of you say he has no position. I say great! BB loves molding versatile football players. Was Edelman a WR in college? This kid is the furthest thing from a cancer in the lockerroom. Any who say different are just hating.

 

[Bhelmet]

Gee.. How about the fact that he doesn't work on his mechanics or footwork in the pocket which forces teams to either have an outstanding O-line or to gameplan for him to move the pocket on a regular basis?

He has done what is asked of him? That's why his mechanics are still as flawed today as the day he was drafted. Despite being told by numerous coaches that he needed to improve upon them. Despite being told that he needed to work on his reading of defenses.

Tebow is the epitome of relying on his athletic ability to succeed and not working on the skills to improve. Claiming he's always done what is asked of him is you lying to yourself.

Tebow doesn't divide a locker-room? Guess you missed the whole Anti-Abortion commercial. I guess you've missed him doing his own thing on numerous occasions despite what has been asked of him. He is as much of a media wench as Terrell Owens was. Just because you are in denial doesn't mean it's not true.

Who is working with him? Elway/Fox did not - who on the Jets is? Where are those who supposedly work with him complaining that he does not do what they ask of him?

 

[shmessy]

No - Brady is a winner as well. When Tebow has had the opportunity he has made the MOST of them - winning DESPITE critics/odds - much LIKE Brady (at the same point in his career).

I made a joke in this thread earlier, but THIS one is the funniest unintentional joke I've read in a while.

'Yeah, that Brady guy is a winner as well'.

Thank you for that Bhelmet!!!!!!!!

 

[mayoclinic]

Some of you say he has no position. I say great! BB loves molding versatile football players. Was Edelman a WR in college? This kid is the furthest thing from a cancer in the lockerroom. Any who say different are just hating.

I'm a Tebow hater, I admit it freely. So let me try to put my bias aside, and let's ignore any of the potential "distraction" discussion.

Does Tebow have some athletic ability? Sure, tons. No doubt about it. Does he have some versatility? Sure. So do many, many players. I can understand that that has a certain appeal, but that only gets you to the first cut, IMHO.

Is he a QB? Not by any stretch of the imagination, not even close. Edelman came out as a 7th round STer who worked his way in as a backup slot receiver, and who has also served as a defensive back in need. Where are we going to use Tebow? The most likely place that I could truly see him getting meaningful snaps is as an Aaron Hernandez kind of "move TE" where we try to get him in space to use his athleticism. I think that's the place where he could have the earliest impact. We're not going to incorporate the wildcat into our offense in any meaningful way.

Could I see a role for Tebow as a versatile movement player and Hernandez backup? Sure. But our roster is already very crowded at TE, and his contract is not insubstantial, so there would have to be enough confidence that he would be likely to get enough playing time to warrant the investment. So I personally think it's a long shot, trying to factor out my bias and the distraction issues. Not impossible, but a long shot. And the other stuff is at least a concern to be considered before taking that on. Again, not out of the question, but I think it's unlikely.

 

[borg]

Shouldn't your back up QB be competent in your system with skills to run said system. Is there anyone alive that believes Tebow has the tools to run the Pats offense? And does anyone really believe BB would take time away from practicing the offensive system he has in place in order to install an offense that suits his THIRD STRING QB.
And where does this misinformation come from that "BB loves Tim Tebow?" Has there ever been a dinner that created more hype and fallacy just by breaking bread. Maybe THE Last Supper....Reality is....BB loves playing against Tim Tebow because he is wildly inaccurate and his progressions involves one read...then tuck and run.

 

[Ive_Killed_People]

What contract are you people referring to? In my very likely scenario he is cut by the Jets.

 

[Bhelmet]

I made a joke in this thread earlier, but THIS one is the funniest unintentional joke I've read in a while.

'Yeah, that Brady guy is a winner as well'.

Thank you for that Bhelmet!!!!!!!!

Your welcome for the laugh - but being a "winner" is a "head" issue - just ask Peyton/A-Rod. Some guys are great players and pile up the stats, but when it matters most they disappear and shrivel. Tebow/Brady are not that type - Manning/A-Rod/LeBron (w/o help) ARE. There IS a difference.

 

[Ive_Killed_People]

Shouldn't your back up QB be competent in your system with skills to run said system. Is there anyone alive that believes Tebow has the tools to run the Pats offense? And does anyone really believe BB would take time away from practicing the offensive system he has in place in order to install an offense that suits his THIRD STRING QB.
And where does this misinformation come from that "BB loves Tim Tebow?" Has there ever been a dinner that created more hype and fallacy just by breaking bread. Maybe THE Last Supper....Reality is....BB loves playing against Tim Tebow because he is wildly inaccurate and his progressions involves one read...then tuck and run.

Shouldnt someone who responds to a thread have at least read the original post? I never suggested Tebow as a QB...backup or otherwise

 

[patsfan13]

He's a winner?? I disagree and so do most Jets fans and some Jets players..

Well there is your first problem agreeing with Jets fans. What exactly do THEY know about winning football.

Sorry, but I'd rather spend the time on a guy who is willing to buy into the system. Not a guy who wants the system to conform around him. And that is what Tebow expects.

Well if he were cut his contract wouldn't be an issue.

If you talk to the kid and explain he would never be a QB here and discuss how he could earn a roster spot (RB/TE). IMO if he agreed to that role then he would be a good signing. If he agreed to a role here he would do what he agreed to do period. There is noting to indicate the guy is a malcontent of any sort.

The guy has been running the ball for a long time and seems bright enough to pick up the playbook.

Due to BB the media circus would be stopped in it's tracks. He could be a little fish in the big Patriot pound.

 

[everlong]

I don't hate Tebow. I'm not religious but I do think he's as pious as he projects himself to be. I think he does a lot of good with his celebrity. I also think he enjoys that lime light. However if he was serious about his development as a football player we would somewhere that he was working nonstop at the facility to improve. We would hear how he hired a private QB coach. You know the things we hear and have heard about Tom Brady for 13 years. That's what a real winner does. They work nonstop at their craft never resting.

As far as another position. He's not big enough or elusive enough to be a TE. He's not fast enough or nimble enough to be a slot receiver. The Patriots don't need a FB or a gimmick.

I'll pass but good luck Tim.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

BB loves guys who love football.

If he brings him in, then the it would be the perfect clash of media want vs Patriot blackout and Tebow might even welcome the lack of media frenzy (if he's serious about football).

I don't care one way or another if BB has a look at him, but I doubt he'll get much of a contract (assuming he's cut from the Jets, nobody claims him on waivers and his contract is over).

BB might kick the tires on a number of guys who could hit free agency (if Ed Reed makes it).

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Some of you say he has no position. I say great! BB loves molding versatile football players. Was Edelman a WR in college? This kid is the furthest thing from a cancer in the lockerroom. Any who say different are just hating.

You call well reasoned responses that illustrate the utterly inane folly of your thread "hating". How au currant a response, typical when the OP has no rejoinder factual support of your ridiculous position.

 

[patsfan13]

I don't hate Tebow. I'm not religious but I do think he's as pious as he projects himself to be. I think he does a lot of good with his celebrity. I also think he enjoys that lime light. However if he was serious about his development as a football player we would somewhere that he was working nonstop at the facility to improve. We would hear how he hired a private QB coach. You know the things we hear and have heard about Tom Brady for 13 years. That's what a real winner does. They work nonstop at their craft never resting.

Well Tebow was working 2 a days in the off-season with a QB coach this past year. Any failures are not due to a lack of effort.

Tim Tebow has spent offseason with quarterbacks coach, aiming to be more comfortable in pocket | NJ.com

"In 30 years, the guy is as good as I've ever been around as far as wanting to work at being good at something," Mazzone said in a telephone interview this afternoon. "This kid's competitiveness and all the other things he brings to the table is amazing to me. He wants to be the best at everything he does and so his work ethic — going out every day and doing the things he needs to work on — is obviously what the great ones all have.

As far as another position. He's not big enough or elusive enough to be a TE. He's not fast enough or nimble enough to be a slot receiver. The Patriots don't need a FB or a gimmick.

I'll pass but good luck Tim.

Well Tebow is 6'3" and has been playing at ~ 250 this year. AH is 6'1" 245, seems to have the size at least to be a TE. As for nimble perhaps not but he showed good running ability and broke a few tackles against the Pats last year. He isn't a QB however.

He is a guy who is very competitive, works hard, loves football, and a good community guy. IF he is a FA and is will to fill non QB roles BB will take a look.

 

[everlong]

Well Tebow was working 2 a days in the off-season with a QB coach this past year. Any failures are not due to a lack of effort.

Tim Tebow has spent offseason with quarterbacks coach, aiming to be more comfortable in pocket | NJ.com
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Then he should have shown some improvement. Nice find on the article.

I don't see them kicking the tires.

 

[BananaRepublican]

So why would BB waste a spot on the 53?

I think the team has enough projects. Fine, we like sticking it to the Jets but I don't think that should be a priority over maximizing the roster.

What exactly does Tebow *DO* that the Patriots need?

I wouldn't even trust him throwing from the stupid Wildcat.

 

[patsfan13]

Then he should have shown some improvement. Nice find on the article.

I don't see them kicking the tires.

I think the guy has the wrong physique to be an NFL QB, his failure at being a NFL QB is not a lack of effort.

As to whether he improved, how would we know he hasn't been playing enough to make a judgement one way or the other.

I think he would be brought in in he agreed to a non qb role.

He is a winner who can out play his ability as we saw last year with Denver, we agree that he isn't a good QB, but when the chips were down he made plays to win a lot of games last year. THAT is a skill that one can't teach.

 

[Ivan]

Maybe someday but not for at least a couple of years. Tebow wants to be a QB and he's most likely headed to Jacksonville when the season is over. I don't believe Belichick would bring him in until he has exhausted his opportunities to play QB. Once that experiment ends however I could see Belichick bring him in as an H-Back, whether he would make it or not is another question .

 

[BananaRepublican]

As to whether he improved, how would we know he hasn't been playing enough to make a judgement one way or the other.

Not being able to earn playing time on a desperate team is not exactly a sign of greatness.

When we scooped Woodhead we stuck it to Rex, but we also got somebody that could step in and fill a role. What role does Tebow fill on the best team in football? Last time I checked we have a great stable of backs, great stable of TEs, and zero need for a baggage carrying college heart throb who has nothing on his resume but, "Took advantage of a drugged and senseless **** Lebow once."

 

[BananaRepublican]

Tebow wants to be a QB and he's most likely headed to Jacksonville when the season is over.

Jacksonville should be shot on sight if they build their future around that gimmick.