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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I'm interested to see what Vollmer's market value is. On one hand he's young and proven to be a dominant tackle when in aside from when he's played injured. On the other hand, he's spent a majority of the past 2 seasons nursing lingering back issues which date back to college. The value will be even less to us IMO considering our OL coach and Cannon's admirable fill in's when Vollmer was out.
Also don't forget we have Jeff Demps for next year! They'll likely restructure Brady's contract as well as his cap number is $21 mil next yr.
My God, doesn't anyone have some perspective? As Pats fans we want to pay and keep everyone. It just doesn't happen. A couple of points/questions.Did you all see the Job Vollmer did on JJ Watt? JJ Watt make average Tackles look stupid Vollmer did a job on him, he got some shots on Brady but Vollmer for the most part stalled Watt's initial charge which is quite a charge...Vollmer when healthy is a Big- Strong Athletic Elite Tackle he has to be locked up...Brady appreciates him.
Did you all see the Job Vollmer did on JJ Watt? JJ Watt make average Tackles look stupid Vollmer did a job on him, he got some shots on Brady but Vollmer for the most part stalled Watt's initial charge which is quite a charge...Vollmer when healthy is a Big- Strong Athletic Elite Tackle he has to be locked up...Brady appreciates him.
My God, doesn't anyone have some perspective? As Pats fans we want to pay and keep everyone. It just doesn't happen. A couple of points/questions.
1. What the franchise tag for a CB these days. If its not too high, it might be the way to go with him.
2. Jason has us estimated at being $16MM under the cap right now. I'm not sure how accurate that is. Lets say we have an additional $5MM more in carry over. That's just $21MM under the cap. That's not much even if all we had to do was sign our own FA's. Welker wants 9-10, Volmer's gonna want at least $8, Edelman 3-4....and there's your cap space....gone before you even get to Talib and whatever CB's get.
3. So what about Talib, Woodhead and all the others. What about the possibility of adding even middle class FA's. What about signing our draft picks? You can't sign everyone. Difficult choices are going to have to be made....and we aren't going to like them. Why? Because we are fans and fans never see the entire picture. We want what we want and we want it NOW!
Welker wants 9-10, Volmer's gonna want at least $8, Edelman 3-4....and there's your cap space....gone before you even get to Talib and whatever CB's get.
I love Woody, but I have trouble seeing him back with both Vareen AND Demps ready to take over his role. But as a well known Edelman supporter, the brief glimpse of what he showed this year both as a PR and a WR, I REALLY hope we can resign him. The problem is that guys that can fill that many roles are expensive (relatively) and he's broken 3 bones since he's been here (arm, hand, and foot) That's has to make you wonder how much you should invest in him.Seems pretty obvious you'd let Woodhead and Edelman walk under your scenario.
Welker wants 9-10, Volmer's gonna want at least $8, Edelman 3-4....and there's your cap space....gone before you even get to Talib and whatever CB's get.
There's a reason he wasn't drafted in the supplemental. This kid wasn't that good in college.
My God, doesn't anyone have some perspective? As Pats fans we want to pay and keep everyone. It just doesn't happen. A couple of points/questions.
1. What the franchise tag for a CB these days. If its not too high, it might be the way to go with him.
2. Jason has us estimated at being $16MM under the cap right now. I'm not sure how accurate that is. Lets say we have an additional $5MM more in carry over. That's just $21MM under the cap. That's not much even if all we had to do was sign our own FA's. Welker wants 9-10, Volmer's gonna want at least $8, Edelman 3-4....and there's your cap space....gone before you even get to Talib and whatever CB's get.
3. So what about Talib, Woodhead and all the others. What about the possibility of adding even middle class FA's. What about signing our draft picks? You can't sign everyone. Difficult choices are going to have to be made....and we aren't going to like them. Why? Because we are fans and fans never see the entire picture. We want what we want and we want it NOW!
Your probably right. The number is likely closer to 3. But consider this. You are paying Edelman not only for being a WR (a role which would likely expand if he comes back), but as one of the better PR's in the league, as well as an ace on several other special teams. You are paying Lloyd just to be a WR....period.There is zero chance they're going to pay Edelman 3-4M. They only paid Lloyd 4M/year. Likewise with Vollmer you have Mankins making 8M/year. I don't see them going over that as much as they might like him. Hopefully they can work something out with both but I think 6M is the ceiling for Vollmer and 2M for Edelman.
My God, doesn't anyone have some perspective? As Pats fans we want to pay and keep everyone. It just doesn't happen. A couple of points/questions.
1. What the franchise tag for a CB these days. If its not too high, it might be the way to go with him.
2. Jason has us estimated at being $16MM under the cap right now. I'm not sure how accurate that is. Lets say we have an additional $5MM more in carry over. That's just $21MM under the cap. That's not much even if all we had to do was sign our own FA's. Welker wants 9-10, Volmer's gonna want at least $8, Edelman 3-4....and there's your cap space....gone before you even get to Talib and whatever CB's get.
3. So what about Talib, Woodhead and all the others. What about the possibility of adding even middle class FA's. What about signing our draft picks? You can't sign everyone. Difficult choices are going to have to be made....and we aren't going to like them. Why? Because we are fans and fans never see the entire picture. We want what we want and we want it NOW!