The key to running on the Texans.... base vs nickel defense

[livinginthe past]

Those stats are skewed out of proportion a little bit due to different circumstances.

For example, there were games when we had a big lead.
We went to sort of a prevent defense late in the third quarter.
We traded yards for time, so to speak.

Same thing when we see second or third and very long.
As long we can stop the other team from converting the third down, we don't mind the yards.

Welcome to the board!

I would suggest that all NFL teams (or at least a large majority) put plenty of nickel and dime on the field with large leads.

The Patriots have played alot of games with large leads (larger than the Texans for sure) yet their stats are better - and substantially so.

 

[Thunderkyss]

Welcome to the board!

I would suggest that all NFL teams (or at least a large majority) put plenty of nickel and dime on the field with large leads.

The Patriots have played alot of games with large leads (larger than the Texans for sure) yet their stats are better - and substantially so.

Yeah, I'm not buying 76Texans' excuse either.

You guys know more than anything those stats (especially defensive) don't mean a whole lot. It's all situational. We might give up a bunch of yards from our nickel package, but we're not giving up a lot of points.

You may have success running the ball, but it'll be like "fools gold" looks pretty, but not worth a whole lot.

 

[76Texan]

Welcome to the board!

I would suggest that all NFL teams (or at least a large majority) put plenty of nickel and dime on the field with large leads.

The Patriots have played alot of games with large leads (larger than the Texans for sure) yet their stats are better - and substantially so.

Forget the stats.

Some of the turnovers ya' got were just silly bad plays by the opponents.

 

[whoartthou]

I think we beat the texans with a 2 td margin at least.

 

[moejr]

Not our fault Sanchise is an arse kisser and fumbled the ball. lol That was definitely silly like you said.

 

[docbar]

I hope the Pat's do try to run the ball against the Texans. I don't see y'all doing it as effectively as y'all might think. I certainly don't think y'all will beat us with the running game and seriously doubt that McDaniels will stick to it, regardless. His ego is too big and he wants to win with the pass and big plays. The Texans D is stout, regardless of 3 poor showings this year.

 

[1960Pats]

Thank you for the welcome.

Forgive me for being technical; I was in the graphic arts industry for some 30 years.

Yes, the colors are very similar.

In the "old standard" four-color offset, the Pats color of PMS 289 is different from the Texans PMS 5395 in the varying of the Magenta and Black colors.

The later is a newer color; we are the new kid on the block, afterall.

I stand corrected then.

 

[76Texan]

Not our fault Sanchise is an arse kisser and fumbled the ball. lol That was definitely silly like you said.

Arsenal killer, now that is funny right there, lmao.

Hey, don't ask me why the words don't come out of the keyboard as they're supposed to.

 

[76Texan]

I stand corrected then.

Not to worry, the colors look basically the same to a regular person.
Only those who live with colors can discern the difference, or if you're made aware of the very subtle difference.

 

[76Texan]

Welcome to the board!

I would suggest that all NFL teams (or at least a large majority) put plenty of nickel and dime on the field with large leads.

The Patriots have played alot of games with large leads (larger than the Texans for sure) yet their stats are better - and substantially so.

The only real difference in the stats is the Texans worked to take time off the clock more.

I've reviewed all the Pats games via torrents and Game Rewind.

Sorry to say, but sometimes the Pats look like a college team running up the score.

 

[76Texan]

Or if you prefer a different perspective, our MB fans came up with the term "turtle mode" to describe our offense when playing with a lead in the second half.

 

[The Gr8est]

Forget the stats.

Some of the turnovers ya' got were just silly bad plays by the opponents.

Point taken, but not all turnovers are buttfumbles.


But THAT one is STILL hilarious.




I WILL give the Texans credit for keeping Brandon Moore's ass in check when they played the Rats, most teams know you can't stop Brandon Moore's ass, you only hope to contain it.

 

[shmessy]

EDIT: Want to mention the computer got smart and started corner blitzing out of their Nickel with Routt. I had no answer for that in this scheme - Vereen can't pass protect well in Madden, but putting Woodhead to block would mean you have to run Vereen through the tackles, one of his weakness. It forced me to run more than I wanted, as Brady was getting clobbered.

I don't play video games, but wouldn't that right there be a problem with Madden???

The Madden programmed data on Routt would be solely about him in the Oakland Raiders D system (a system he knew like the back of his hand as he was there 7 seasons). Madden 2012 was programmed before the start of the season - - so even the KC Chiefs data is not in it (correct me if I'm wrong and if Madden updates during the season).

Anyways, CB blitzes are about timing and knowing where all you teammates are on the field. This is Routt's first game in 5 weeks - - and first game in the Texans' D system.

I'm not convinced that particular performance shown in the Madden game is likely to be replicable in real life tonight.

 

[shmessy]

This is what Wade Phillips does; and he had done it for years.

He choose to do it; he is not forced to do it.

Everything boils down to execution.

I'm a believer after seeing this: Teams coached by Phillips are 14-12 against teams coached by Belichick (cumulative no matter which coaching position they had).

Belichick vs. Phillips a longstanding battle

However, the only time a McDaniels Offense went against a Phillips Defense, McDaniels handed him a beat down.

Either way, it should be interesting.

 

[Wax Frog]

I don't see y'all doing it as effectively as y'all might think. I certainly don't think y'all will beat us with the running game and seriously doubt that McDaniels will stick to it, regardless.

When I read this I picture you as Andy Devine

 

[The Gr8est]

So, I don't know if anyone has ever asked here, but is there a difference between a Wax Frog and a Wax Toad?

 

[Wax Frog]

So, I don't know if anyone has ever asked here, but is there a difference between a Wax Frog and a Wax Toad?

I have no clue, but I'm betting the Chinese would get queasy either way
snopes.com: Bite the Wax Tadpole

 

[shmessy]

I hope the Pat's do try to run the ball against the Texans. I don't see y'all doing it as effectively as y'all might think. I certainly don't think y'all will beat us with the running game and seriously doubt that McDaniels will stick to it, regardless. His ego is too big and he wants to win with the pass and big plays. The Texans D is stout, regardless of 3 poor showings this year.

What is this word "y'all"?

How does it translate into Chowd vernacular?

 

[76Texan]

I'm a believer after seeing this: Teams coached by Phillips are 14-12 against teams coached by Belichick (cumulative no matter which coaching position they had).

Belichick vs. Phillips a longstanding battle

However, the only time a McDaniels Offense went against a Phillips Defense, McDaniels handed him a beat down.

Either way, it should be interesting.

If you subtract games where both functioned in a defensive capacity (they were not playing chess against each other), by my count, Wade has a 2-1 advantage.

On the other side of the coin, Gary Kubiak also owns a 2-1 advantage against BB's defense.

But erase all of that, this should be a chess match for the age (I hope).

The Texans also have the advantage of 2-head is better than one.
The Pats will be playing at home in cold weather.

I can't ask anything more from this matchup.
I hope it turns out to be a hell of a game for all of the fans.

 

[Thunderkyss]

Sorry to say, but sometimes the Pats look like a college team running up the score.

With their defense, do you blame them?

No lead is safe.