Holy Crap! Now It's the Jets COACHES!!!!!!

[QuantumMechanic]

True, so the question is: did he walk out on the team or did he try to see out the season and then exit quietly and gracefully -- only to have the Sullivans sack him on the spot?

He didn't walk out. He (secretly, IIRC) got the UColorado job but was intending to play out the season. When the news leaked, the Sullivans suspended him for the final game or games of the regular season, but reinstated him for the playoffs (which was a crushing administered by the Oilers if my memory serves correctly).

Ok -- here's what Wikipedia says. Having read that, it is not at variance with what I can remember (I was only 10 at the time

In 1977, contract squabbles with offensive linemen John Hannah and Leon Gray resulted in discord within the team. The incident soured Fairbanks on Chuck Sullivan, who as the eldest son of team owner Billy Sullivan controlled the team's finances and had forced Fairbanks to renege on his proposed contracts with Hannah and Gray. Hannah, denied Fairbanks' promised contract by the ownership team, later argued the Sullivans "took Chuck's authority away and turned him into a liar." [3]

The following year, his division-champion Patriots seemed poised to challenge for a Super Bowl berth, but just prior to the final regular season game, Sullivan suspended Fairbanks for again breaking a contract by agreeing to serve as head coach at the University of Colorado beginning in 1979. Fairbanks was reinstated for the team's first playoff game (and the franchise's first-ever playoff game at home), but the second-seeded Patriots lost 31–14 to the fifth-seed Houston Oilers.

Unwilling to let him leave with as few consequences for his actions as had the Sooners, New England sued Fairbanks for breach of contract. During discovery for the suit, Fairbanks admitted recruiting for Colorado while still working for the Patriots. The Patriots won an injunction preventing Fairbanks from leaving. However, on April 2, 1979, a group of Colorado boosters bought out Fairbanks' contract, allowing him to leave the Patriots. Paul Zimmerman, Sports Illustrated's dean of professional football writers, has speculated that the animus surrounding Fairbanks departure from New England stemmed from the fact that, unlike the late-season departure of New York Jets coach Lou Holtz for Arkansas in 1976, "no one" felt Fairbanks "was a really nice guy."[4]

 

[Ring 6]

Evidently, opinions do not count without your ok? The question then becomes, will you stand corrected? I said Jimmy Johnson called out Steve Young on the way to the Superbowl. It was a fact, lived in Dallas during thier run. Did not say they were playing them 'in' the Superbowl, but had to beat them to get there. Johnson called in on a radio talk show and said something like, Young couldn't win the big game. That was BALLS, that was big brass ones.

You said he called him out before the SB then won. I accept you meant something else, but that is what you said. I can only respond to your words, not what is in your head.

Hey, if you want to say, Rex only had a few good defensive games, fine. We agree to disagree, because I think he's a good defensive coach.

Well first we are talking about him as a Head Coach, and second I simply realted what he has done vs the Patriots, which is not at all impressive. You said he "he had no problems shutting down our offense when he had the weapons." which is totally incorrect outside of a couple of good games. 30 ppg over 9 games is not 'having no problem shutting down an offense' by any interpretation.

You actually are saying Rex should play McElroy?????????????????????????

I say he should have figured out by now Sanchez blows. Why not play McElroy? Sanchez is obivously not the answer. Do you think BB would have stuck with him this long?

 

[scout]

You said he called him out before the SB then won. I accept you meant something else, but that is what you said. I can only respond to your words, not what is in your head.

Well first we are talking about him as a Head Coach, and second I simply realted what he has done vs the Patriots, which is not at all impressive. You said he "he had no problems shutting down our offense when he had the weapons." which is totally incorrect outside of a couple of good games. 30 ppg over 9 games is not 'having no problem shutting down an offense' by any interpretation.



I say he should have figured out by now Sanchez blows. Why not play McElroy? Sanchez is obivously not the answer. Do you think BB would have stuck with him this long?

Actually, my exact words were "he called out Steve Young leading up to the Superbowl". Kind of you to accept that I meant something else.
I never stated "Head Coach". I said he was a good coach. "WE" is your perception.
In regards to points and wins;
2009 was his first year at the Jets head coach, we split as they held us to 9 points in a loss
2010 was his second year, we split as they held us to 14 points in a loss
2010 was his third year, we won both season games, they beat us in the playoffs as they held us to 21 points.
We trounced them in 2011 and they lost their Island in 2012.

I don't know what BB would do. Just that the Jets will probably trade or draft a qb next year.

 

[Mike the Brit]

He didn't walk out. He (secretly, IIRC) got the UColorado job but was intending to play out the season. When the news leaked, the Sullivans suspended him for the final game or games of the regular season, but reinstated him for the playoffs (which was a crushing administered by the Oilers if my memory serves correctly). (I was only 10 at the time

If this is true (if!) then I think the blame goes to the Sullivans. Shmessy, are you prepared to open your heart and forgive him after 35 years?

 

[shmessy]

If this is true (if!) then I think the blame goes to the Sullivans. Shmessy, are you prepared to open your heart and forgive him after 35 years?

For that discussion, I opened up a new thread.
http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...irbanks-fault-were-sullivans.html#post3266821

Back to the NY Coaches jumping the ship for this one.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The Sullivans WERE crap owners - - that era's Woody Johnson. However, Fairbanks was here since 1973. They didn't become crap owners the week before the Houston game. He knew the deal for YEARS. He bailed - - whether it was secretly or publicly, he bailed when they were on the doorstep to something great.

This statement oozes of entitlment. Woody Johnson couldn't hold Billy Sullivan's jockstrap.

I'd agree that Billy, Chuck and Pat wern't exactly the triumvirate of fooball genius, were sometimes irrational and not exactly rich owners that could cover up their mistakes but they were self-made men (Billy because he was the dad), founded the region's 1st NFL franchise, got them sucessful out of the gate, built a stadium, hired good people (most of the time) and were owners during the team's 1st SB appearance (should have been two if you count 1976).

Is he Kraft? Not even close but he blows a silver-spooned, asleep-at-the wheel Woody Johnson out of the water.