Rapoport Goes Fishing re Brady

[jbb9s]

This comes from a guy with 62.9k tweets and only 52.3k followers. That is a horrible metric. They should ban your twitter account if you are >1.

 

[resdubwhite]

Anyone else notice how Tom didn't know quite what to do with that turkey leg after the Jets game. Meanwhile, Vince was all over that turkey.

now that you say that.

Damn. Looks like he's going to retire.

 

[1960Pats]

he's just reciprocating the exact language BB uses when asked about him; "there's no QB I'd want coach more." A way of being complimentary without allowing a quote to become controversial by being spun as a put down of other coaches/QBs. I don't know whether they have a summit or something on how to carefully say things but the consistency is impressive.

According to Pepper Johnson in his book "Won For All", Belichick does indeed teach his players how to answer questions so they go nowhere. He's apparently as good at that as he is the on-field moves. One look at his press conferences shows it too. No wonder the mediots hate him

There's no other head coach and QB that I'd rather have leading my team than Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. There, that was easy.

I have to disagree with the notion that they're going to be getting out of the game soon, or even together. I think both of them are driven by the history of the game and want to put their stamp on it.

 

[Big-T]

Here's how I see it:
Brady seemingly keeps getting better & better
He signs a contract extension in the off-season (mainly to help the teams cap number)

He's 35, with the way the rules are going that's still young for an NFL QB and I can easily seeing him going another 5 years and playing at a high level.

 

[UK_Pat37]

Both Brady and Mallett are up for renewal in 2015 when Brady will be 37....I have a distinct feeling we'll see Mallett under center that year if his development continues.

There's a window of opportunity and if Belichick has the slightest bit of belief in Mallett, he will go with him from 2015. Well he should in my eyes.

I don't think its absurd to wonder if Brady will be a Patriot in 2015...you're going to have to make a decision when you have two QBs up for renewal and one is highly touted to be the successor to Brady.

It isn't something we have to worry about just yet.

A worst, I see Brady being re-signed to a one year deal if the Pats feel they don't have his replacement. Nothing more. I don't want to see Brady go out like Favre...a shadow of what he was as he got too old and frail for the league.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

You obviously don't grasp how the business end works, and maybe some other stuff...

Brady's restructure to free up $10M in cap space so BB could maneuver with impunity set up a situation where his remaining cap hits balooned to $22M per. That is never going to happen and they didn't worry about making it appear as if it might because they will do another incremental extension with Brady in the upcoming offseason. It's the way they've always managed his contract as opposed to the 6-9 year mega deals other organizations tried to manage their way through. Brady will ink another 3-4 year extension that will take him to retirement or within a year of it with a mid level dead cap they will be able to absorb at that time if they want or need to because the guy replacing him will be a year or two into a rookie deal.


Mallett never sees an extension here (unless Brady goes down in a heap and can't recover and they get caught short and have to scramble and roll the dice). Developmental backups don't get extensions except in Indy, and we all know how that worked out... They are nothing beyond cheap short term insurance policies. Backups either move on because they aren't good enough to unseat an incumbant or they flash just enough promise to create a trade market. They are not to be confused with replacements like Rodgers, either, who was drafted to replace a QB everyone kept expecting to retire any day now (because he'd already intermittently really sucked and he had been threatening to retire for a couple of seasons). Nor should their situation ever be confused with what happened in SF years ago pre salary cap and FA when players who exhibited more than potential could be held hostage if a team chose to.

 

[RodThePat]

Both Brady and Mallett are up for renewal in 2015 when Brady will be 37....I have a distinct feeling we'll see Mallett under center that year if his development continues.

There's a window of opportunity and if Belichick has the slightest bit of belief in Mallett, he will go with him from 2015. Well he should in my eyes.

I don't think its absurd to wonder if Brady will be a Patriot in 2015...you're going to have to make a decision when you have two QBs up for renewal and one is highly touted to be the successor to Brady.

It isn't something we have to worry about just yet.

A worst, I see Brady being re-signed to a one year deal if the Pats feel they don't have his replacement. Nothing more. I don't want to see Brady go out like Favre...a shadow of what he was as he got too old and frail for the league.

And Brett Favre, a guy who took WAY more hits than Brady, retired at 41, not 37, and had a career year in 2009, when he was 40-years old. I think that if it comes to a point where you have to choose between a 37 year-old Brady and a 27 year-old Mallett, you go with Tom, no questions asked. Say he's playing at 80% of what he's played this season in 2014, are the chances of Ryan Mallett performing as well as that significant? Because I don't believe so. Many guys have had productive seasons at 37 in the NFL lately, this is a different league. I'd be STUNNED if Belichick believes going with Ryan Mallett is a better option than keeping Brady.

 

[UK_Pat37]

You obviously don't grasp how the business end works, and maybe some other stuff...

Brady's restructure to free up $10M in cap space so BB could maneuver with impunity set up a situation where his remaining cap hits balooned to $22M per. That is never going to happen and they didn't worry about making it appear as if it might because they will do another incremental extension with Brady in the upcoming offseason. It's the way they've always managed his contract as opposed to the 6-9 year mega deals other organizations tried to manage their way through. Brady will ink another 3-4 year extension that will take him to retirement or within a year of it with a mid level dead cap they will be able to absorb at that time if they want or need to because the guy replacing him will be a year or two into a rookie deal.


Mallett never sees an extension here (unless Brady goes down in a heap and can't recover and they get caught short and have to scramble and roll the dice). Developmental backups don't get extensions except in Indy, and we all know how that worked out... They are nothing beyond cheap short term insurance policies. Backups either move on because they aren't good enough to unseat an incumbant or they flash just enough promise to create a trade market. They are not to be confused with replacements like Rodgers, either, who was drafted to replace a QB everyone kept expecting to retire any day now (because he'd already intermittently really sucked and he had been threatening to retire for a couple of seasons). Nor should their situation ever be confused with what happened in SF years ago pre salary cap and FA when players who exhibited more than potential could be held hostage if a team chose to.

I clearly don't. I bow to your superior knowledge and completely withdraw the notion that Ryan Mallett might one day replace Tom Brady! Or the fact he will even get another contract.

 

[Big-T]

I can't see Ryan Mallett being a starter for anyone in the NFL.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Both Brady and Mallett are up for renewal in 2015 when Brady will be 37....I have a distinct feeling we'll see Mallett under center that year if his development continues.

There's a window of opportunity and if Belichick has the slightest bit of belief in Mallett, he will go with him from 2015. Well he should in my eyes.
I don't think its absurd to wonder if Brady will be a Patriot in 2015...you're going to have to make a decision when you have two QBs up for renewal and one is highly touted to be the successor to Brady.

It isn't something we have to worry about just yet.

A worst, I see Brady being re-signed to a one year deal if the Pats feel they don't have his replacement. Nothing more. I don't want to see Brady go out like Favre...a shadow of what he was as he got too old and frail for the league.

Let me ask you this. You are Belichick & Bob Kraft. Its the offseason going into the 2015 season, Brady is coming off another monster year, is completely healthy, the team is in great cap shape, the offense and defense is still well stocked with talent and contractual common ground can be found between TB and the team.

Do you really want to give the keys to the Porche to Mallett?

 

[UK_Pat37]

I can't see Ryan Mallett being a starter for anyone in the NFL.

I've seen nothing myself that tells me he can't develop in to an NFL starter. I wasn't so sure when we drafted him if he was a great fit for ou offence but I had no questions about us ability to play in the NFL. Saying that, we have a limited sample size and we have no idea what the team is thinking.

The team will draft other QBs...so Mallett may not wind up being that guy but, for now, you has to assume he is.

My point above is if...and that's an if...Mallett shows the ability when you have both up for renewal, then I wouldn't bet against BB making that decision.

Screw the business side...we'd just given Bledsoe a monster deal but tha didn't stop us snubbing him for Brady...a decision most of us mocked.

 

[NYCPatsFan]

Belichick is the coach of the Patriots.

Brady says he wouldn't want to play for any other coach.

So Rappaport takes that to mean Brady ends up in San Fran.

What insight.

That 'insight' is precisely why some us have the holy trinity - Borges, Rapoport, and Shaughnessy - on our ignore list.

No point getting irritated or granting their senseless garbage any hits when it is obvious that they have an agenda.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

I've seen nothing myself that tells me he can't develop in to an NFL starter. I wasn't so sure when we drafted him if he was a great fit for ou offence but I had no questions about us ability to play in the NFL. Saying that, we have a limited sample size and we have no idea what the team is thinking.

The team will draft other QBs...so Mallett may not wind up being that guy but, for now, you has to assume he is.

My point above is if...and that's an if...Mallett shows the ability when you have both up for renewal, then I wouldn't bet against BB making that decision.

Screw the business side...we'd just given Bledsoe a monster deal but tha didn't stop us snubbing him for Brady...a decision most of us mocked.

They never screw the business side here, at least not since Belichick landed. Drew got his ego fluffing $100M extension. It wasn't worth the paper it was written on. He got $10M guaranteed and had a $6M dead cap hit... Brady doesn't sign those kind of deals. He gets more than half guaranteed up front and rolling guarantees that cover the rest.

Again, they won't both be up for renewal at the same time. Team can't afford a $22M lame duck under center let alone under a flat cap thru 2015. If they restructured him in 2013 the most they could shave off that cap hit is $4.5M. And that would make his 2014 cap hit over $26M (which would make tagging him in 2015 even for trade a non starter at $31M...even if the cap finally jumps several million again by then).

And speak for yourself when it comes to most of us. Some couldn't see the forrest for the trees, others were so devoted they didn't care. But most of us saw the same thing Bill did when decision time rolled around.

 

[Raymond]

Screw the business side...we'd just given Bledsoe a monster deal but tha didn't stop us snubbing him for Brady...a decision most of us mocked.

Wait. Your original premise said nothing about Brady's numbers being, 5-13 over his last 18 games......and

59% comp, 19 tds, 15 ints.

If he's putting up those numbers, then they'll possibly snub him too just like Drew.

 

[edboc]

The legendarily narcissistic I-an Rapapport???

He is improving - - he referenced himself only four times in those four paragraphs. The therapy must be working. Hopefully, he no longer texts while sitting at people's funerals.

What is hilarious is his claim that he has never heard Brady say such a thing as he wouldn't want to play for any other coach. He's said that SEVERAL times over the past few years - - even when I-an was a beat writer in Boston.

It's all manufactured garbage by a hack reporter.

I-an is still adamant that he's he hasn't heard Brady say this before. I know he's either said this in press conferences or on radio interviews whenever someone has asked about playing for Belichick, with regards to some team or personal accomplishment, at the last Super Bowl, and when he signed his last contract extension:

"Never heard it before. Listened to every interview for 3 years"

https://twitter.com/EdwinChung/status/272715861951930369

Here's a summary of a WEEI radio interview (simple Google search) right after it was reported that he signed a contract extension in 2010:
http://m.weei.com/sports/feed/blog/anonymous/tom-brady-discusses-contract-jets’-arrogance-dc

"To play for coach Belichick, there’s no coach I’d rather play for. That’s how I’ve felt, that’s how I’ll feel today, tomorrow, Sunday, the following week, for as long as I ever am playing, and beyond my playing years I’ll be grateful for what I have here."

 

[SqivvyQ]

The legendarily narcissistic I-an Rapapport???

What is hilarious is his claim that he has never heard Brady say such a thing as he wouldn't want to play for any other coach. He's said that SEVERAL times over the past few years - - even when I-an was a beat writer in Boston.

It's all manufactured garbage by a hack reporter.

"To play for coach Belichick, there’s no coach I’d rather play for. That’s how I’ve felt, that’s how I’ll feel today, tomorrow, Sunday, the following week, for as long as I ever am playing, and beyond my playing years I’ll be grateful for what I have here." - Tom Brady, Sept. 2010

"There's no coach I'd rather play for," the New England Patriots quarterback said Wednesday. (WPost, January, 2007)

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

You might want to re-read the article. . . .

That's not what was written in the article. His thoughts about San Fran were a priori Brady's press conference.

Ok but Brady being cast aside at 37 even dumber. Rappaport is a fool.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Mallett is definitely not the heir to Brady IMO. The math doesn't work out. Brady has showed no signs of slowing down and is posting another MVP caliber season at age 35. I expect him to play at this level until 38, and even then he would probably have two more good seasons in him. That would put Mallett at age 29, being the Brady backup for seven years in a row, I sure doubt that.

If Mallett improves and becomes a starting caliber QB in the next 3-4 years, he'll be traded. If he doesn't, he'll be tossed to the side the ways of O'Connell and Hoyer.

Brady's replacement is most likely a senior in highschool or a freshman in college. That would put the kid drafted around Brady being 38 or 39, with 1-2 years to learn behind the GOAT. I sure wish it was Johnny Football

 

[mayoclinic]

"To play for coach Belichick, there’s no coach I’d rather play for. That’s how I’ve felt, that’s how I’ll feel today, tomorrow, Sunday, the following week, for as long as I ever am playing, and beyond my playing years I’ll be grateful for what I have here." - Tom Brady, Sept. 2010

"There's no coach I'd rather play for," the New England Patriots quarterback said Wednesday. (WPost, January, 2007)

As far as I can tell, Rapoport is purly "fishing" for controversy, as I suggested in the thread title:

1. Brady in the past has said there's no other coach he'd rather play for. This time, he said there's no other coach he wants to play for. Rapoport is playing this up as implying that Brady would retire rather than play for any other coach, which is a huge stretch.

2. Rapoport is purely speculating that because the Pats have been calculated about moving on in the past, that they might consider moving on to a new QB when Brady's contract expires in 2014, leaving him in the position of either playing for another coach - which Rapoport interprets Brady as saying he would be unwilling to do - or retire.

So Brady puts 2 huge stretches together and suggests that Brady could walk away after 2014.

Pure fishing. It's ridiculous.

 

[Deus Irae]

Both Brady and Mallett are up for renewal in 2015 when Brady will be 37....I have a distinct feeling we'll see Mallett under center that year if his development continues.

There's a window of opportunity and if Belichick has the slightest bit of belief in Mallett, he will go with him from 2015. Well he should in my eyes.

I don't think its absurd to wonder if Brady will be a Patriot in 2015...you're going to have to make a decision when you have two QBs up for renewal and one is highly touted to be the successor to Brady.

It isn't something we have to worry about just yet.

A worst, I see Brady being re-signed to a one year deal if the Pats feel they don't have his replacement. Nothing more. I don't want to see Brady go out like Favre...a shadow of what he was as he got too old and frail for the league.

Why would the team look for a "window of opportunity" to move the G.O.A.T. when it doesn't have a Steve Young behind him?