Brady's Stats

[ivanvamp]

Brady's worst two games by passer rating:

at Sea: 36-58 (62.1%), 395 yds, 2 td, 2 int, 79.3 rating
vs Ari: 28-46 (60.9%), 316 yds, 1 td, 1 int, 79.6 rating

In each one, he completed over 60% of his passes, threw for more than 300 yards, and in neither case did he have more INTs than TDs.

Again, these were his two *worst* games of the year, by quite a bit.

That's amazing.

 

[Cassanova792]

Kinda like 2007, when Brady won the MVP?

We had Maroney in the backfield LOL

 

[ThatllMoveTheChains!!!]

Brady's worst two games by passer rating:

at Sea: 36-58 (62.1%), 395 yds, 2 td, 2 int, 79.3 rating
vs Ari: 28-46 (60.9%), 316 yds, 1 td, 1 int, 79.6 rating

In each one, he completed over 60% of his passes, threw for more than 300 yards, and in neither case did he have more INTs than TDs.

Again, these were his two *worst* games of the year, by quite a bit.

That's amazing.

His past 3-4 games have been absolute clinics. This might be my favorite version of the Pats offense and Brady ever.

 

[RodThePat]

Kinda like 2007, when Brady won the MVP?

If Peyton throws 50 touchdowns, I'd be okay with him receiving the MVP, even if all of those came inside the 3-yard line. The situations aren't even remotely comparable. Nice try, though.

 

[pazrul72]

Brady's worst two games by passer rating:

at Sea: 36-58 (62.1%), 395 yds, 2 td, 2 int, 79.3 rating
vs Ari: 28-46 (60.9%), 316 yds, 1 td, 1 int, 79.6 rating

In each one, he completed over 60% of his passes, threw for more than 300 yards, and in neither case did he have more INTs than TDs.

Again, these were his two *worst* games of the year, by quite a bit.

That's amazing.

I think if you were to compare absolute A+ games among the Elite QBs you might find someone better then Brady but when it comes to consistently week in and week out great QB play there is none greater. Those numbers are the kind that get over looked when comparing QB's not only how great are they on their good days, but how awful are they on their bad days. There is a reason that Brady has the best win percentage of any QB in history, it's his consistency. So thankful he is the Patriots QB because every week I think we have a great chance to win. I can count on one hand the number of games I would say Brady was a major reason for a loss... they happen, he's human, but they are very rare.

 

[ivanvamp]

His past 3-4 games have been absolute clinics. This might be my favorite version of the Pats offense and Brady ever.

Last four games: 96-150 (64.0%), 1131 yds, 11 td, 0 int, 111.3 rating

Pats averaging 42.5 points a game over this stretch.

BTW, New England has by *FAR* the biggest point differential in the league at +133 (+13.3 per game).

 

[JJDChE]

Yeah because 2012 Manning is comparable to 2007 Brady right? In 2007 we had 14 rushing TD's, the Bronco's have 5 so far. If Manning throws for 50 TD's and 9 interceptions I'll deliver the MVP trophy to him myself.

Don't complain about throwing inside the 10 because that's what got Brady his 50.

 

[RodThePat]

Don't complain about throwing inside the 10 because that's what got Brady his 50.

What are you even talking about? Had Brady gotten 50 touchdowns throwing a lot of them inside the 10-yard line, and another quarterback threw 45, while his team rushed for 20 TDs, and he hardly ever passed the ball when near the endzone, a very good argument could be made that the second QB had the better season. That's all that's being discussed here. Nobody is saying there's something inherently wrong with throwing the football on those situations, just that it's a factor that should be taken into consideration when deciding which quarterback is having the best season. That's all.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Don't complain about throwing inside the 10 because that's what got Brady his 50.

Not exactly. For his career, he has 60 TDs from 3 yards out or fewer out of 321 (18.7%). In 2007 he had 11 out of 50 (22%).

This year Manning has 6 of 24 (25%).

 

[JJDChE]

Not exactly. For his career, he has 60 TDs from 3 yards out or fewer out of 321 (18.7%). In 2007 he had 11 out of 50 (22%).

This year Manning has 6 of 24 (25%).

Exactly. Manning is doing it at about the same rate as Brady did in 2007. Complaining that it's inflating his stats is pure sour grapes. Find something else to whine about people.

 

[RodThePat]

Exactly. Manning is doing it at about the same rate as Brady did in 2007. Complaining that it's inflating his stats is pure sour grapes. Find something else to whine about people.

In 2007 Brady was the undisputed MVP, no other player in the NFL even came close to playing as well as he did over the course of the season. Can you really say the same for Manning now? You are trying to compare two situations that aren't even remotely similar.

 

[JJDChE]

In 2007 Brady was the undisputed MVP, no other player in the NFL even came close to playing as well as he did over the course of the season. Can you really say the same for Manning now? You are trying to compare two situations that aren't even remotely similar.

I'm just comparing the fact that they both are/were throwing a lot inside the 10, which leads to inflated pass TDs compared to teams that are more run/pass balanced inside the 10.

 

[CityOfChampions]

Exactly. Manning is doing it at about the same rate as Brady did in 2007. Complaining that it's inflating his stats is pure sour grapes. Find something else to whine about people.

How? The Broncos have 5 rushing TD's this season. The 2007 Patriots had 17 rushing TD's.

Edited to add: Can we not even bring up Peyton anymore in posts about Tom? He's having a good year and everyone plus their mom's are talking about it. Let's focus on Brady since a lot of people are ignoring it.

 

[ivanvamp]

How? The Broncos have 5 rushing TD's this season. The 2007 Patriots had 17 rushing TD's.

The 2007 Patriots were the greatest offense in modern NFL history. This year's Broncos are good, but not remotely at that level.

 

[upstater1]

Exactly. Manning is doing it at about the same rate as Brady did in 2007. Complaining that it's inflating his stats is pure sour grapes. Find something else to whine about people.

OK, let's see. What are you doing wrong here.

This is a thread about Brady's stats this year.

We are comparing his stats this year against other player's stats this year.

In 2007, Brady had 50 TDs to 8 INTs. Manning was at 31 TDs to 14 INTs.

The Patriots that year scored 17 rushing TDs, while Indy had 19.
The Patriots had 2 return TDs, Indy had 1.
The Patriots had 6 defensive TDs, Indy had 2.

Total non-passing TDs in 2007:

Patriots 25, Indy 22

So, anyway you cut it (go on and on and on about Brady throwing short goalline passes), remove them from Brady's totals, and what conclusions do you draw about Brady's stats in the 2007 season?

Nothing changes.

 

[JJDChE]

OK, let's see. What are you doing wrong here.

This is a thread about Brady's stats this year.

We are comparing his stats this year against other player's stats this year.

In 2007, Brady had 50 TDs to 8 INTs. Manning was at 31 TDs to 14 INTs.

The Patriots that year scored 17 rushing TDs, while Indy had 19.
The Patriots had 2 return TDs, Indy had 1.
The Patriots had 6 defensive TDs, Indy had 2.

Total non-passing TDs in 2007:

Patriots 25, Indy 22

So, anyway you cut it (go on and on and on about Brady throwing short goalline passes), remove them from Brady's totals, and what conclusions do you draw about Brady's stats in the 2007 season?

Nothing changes.

WTF are you talking about?

Some guy was complaining that Manning is throwing a lot inside the 10 this year so his stats are "inflated". I said, well, so did our guy when he won the MVP a few years ago, but I doubt anyone here was complaining when Brady did it. Just saying...Don't be a hypocrite. That's all.

I have no clue how you brought Manning's 2007 into this.

Manning is a great player no doubt but has anyone ever watched a Broncos game? Anything under the opponents 10 yard line, 95% of the offensive plays are passing. Especially at the 1 frigen yard line. I get he has something to prove but cmon. Brady would have far more superior stats (31-3 TD/INT) if he consistently pulled a Manning.

So, in summary, Manning is just pulling a Brady.

 

[Cassanova792]

WTF are you talking about?

Some guy was complaining that Manning is throwing a lot inside the 10 this year so his stats are "inflated". I said, well, so did our guy when he won the MVP a few years ago, but I doubt anyone here was complaining when Brady did it. Just saying...Don't be a hypocrite. That's all.

I have no clue how you brought Manning's 2007 into this.



So, in summary, Manning is just pulling a Brady.

Considering the Broncos were the #1 Rushing team last year and McGahee was #8 in RB yards, i would say Denver has a solid running game. Obviously Manning has something to prove this year. as did Brady in 07, the only difference is Brady had no running game (Maroney) and yet still managed to utilize the run game more in the red zone than Manning of this year. He doesnt even try to hand off to McGahee, on the 1 yard line, on first down, Manning is chucking bombs (watch the Bengals game). All year he has rarely given his RB's a chance to score in the red zone.

Oh by the way, the 07 Brady was pulling an 04 Manning.

 

[Fixit]

WTF are you talking about?

Some guy was complaining that Manning is throwing a lot inside the 10 this year so his stats are "inflated". I said, well, so did our guy when he won the MVP a few years ago, but I doubt anyone here was complaining when Brady did it. Just saying...Don't be a hypocrite. That's all.

I have no clue how you brought Manning's 2007 into this.



So, in summary, Manning is just pulling a Brady.

I think the thrust is this:

In 2012, Brady is having an amazing year, but Manning is getting more love for throwing 3 more TD's, even though he's consistently throwing for TD near the goal line, whereas Brady is handing it off more at the goal line and leading his team to more points (and against arguably better defenses). In an MVP discussion, the two are close, and something like this should factor in.

You're trying to make the argument that Brady did the same thing in 2007, but there's a major difference. That difference is that there was nobody even close to Brady that season.

 

[Sicilian]

if he consistently pulled a Manning.

So, in summary, Manning is just pulling a Brady.

Oh by the way, the 07 Brady was pulling an 04 Manning.

 

[JJDChE]

Considering the Broncos were the #1 Rushing team last year and McGahee was #8 in RB yards, i would say Denver has a solid running game. Obviously Manning has something to prove this year. as did Brady in 07, the only difference is Brady had no running game (Maroney) and yet still managed to utilize the run game more in the red zone than Manning of this year. He doesnt even try to hand off to McGahee, on the 1 yard line, on first down, Manning is chucking bombs (watch the Bengals game). All year he has rarely given his RB's a chance to score in the red zone.

Oh by the way, the 07 Brady was pulling an 04 Manning.

Yeah, and '04 Manning was pulling an '84 Marino, and so on.

It's poor form to complain about it. The coaches feel like Manning is the better option down there. It's a pretty reasonable decision. Manning v. McGahee. No brainer. Just like Brady v. Maroney was an easy choice.