How much can Aqib Talib help our Secondary?

[Keyser Söze]

it will help because one of Dennard/Arington will be off the damn field.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

it will help because one of Dennard/Arington will be off the damn field.

Would rather have arrington off the field

 

[woolster22]

I think it helps greatly...play some press man for Christ sake and let the lbs get after the qb. Three/four man rush, fitz tore us up like a twenty two year old at a prom party. Send a few extra and he looked uncomfortable and we did cause some mistakes.

Talib means McCourty stays at safety, with dennard (push out in back of endzone anybody?) opposite, playing more man schemes with our beast lbs free to wreak havoc. I turned the game on late, just as woodhead scored to go up 17-3. Not sure if I missed something to discourage my thoughts at this point...

 

[slash83]

I'm happy with the job 32 is doing at S, but I would like to see Talib at one corner spot and devin the other manning up against wrs with 37 at the slot. Have a 3 man rotation at S and lets ride with it.

 

[woolster22]

I'm happy with the job 32 is doing at S, but I would like to see Talib at one corner spot and devin the other manning up against wrs with 37 at the slot. Have a 3 man rotation at S and lets ride with it.

Who made the pick? Put him at cb and he keeps his back turned and gets flagged for pi...

 

[JR4]

I'm happy with the job 32 is doing at S, but I would like to see Talib at one corner spot and devin the other manning up against wrs with 37 at the slot. Have a 3 man rotation at S and lets ride with it.

I am not. McCourty at S brings inexperience to the run D as was seen today when he over persued and allowed spiller to cut back and gain big yards.
Chung wouldn't have let that happen. McCourty does bring cover abiliity
to deep S role but I would rather see our two starting safeties back and
McCourty and Talib at corner. ( with Talib on the best WR )

 

[Nitro]

it will help because one of Dennard/Arington will be off the damn field.

Arrington.. no question. At least Dennard is close to his guy.. when the other teams WR is alone on the tv screen catching a ball you automatically know it was Arrington covering him.. or at least doing his impression of covering him.

 

[Arrington Planet]

I'm sure Talib can cover both WRs. And the TEs. And the RB. All at once.

 

[Sivy]

Bring back Mangini!

 

[ivanvamp]

right now the Secondary is so bad that if Brady and the offense dose not play a perfact game they will get blown out, the pats have a bad combo going right now lack of talent at DB and bad play calling...my hope is that Aqib Talib will be able to play good a nuff so that they can call more blitz packages because a pass rush is the only thing that can help this defense right now

They shut down Sam Bradford and the Rams pretty well a couple of weeks ago.

 

[MTM558]

Based on yesterday's available personnel and how McCourty played at Safety, I think it's fair to say he will be playing there for the remainder of the season, if not permanently.

That would mean a starting Secondary of:

LCB: Alfonzo Dennard
RCB: Aqib Talib
SS: Steve Gregory/Patrick Chung
FS: Devin McCourty

Tavon Wilson hardly played yesterday, which makes me think they've lost confidence in him as a starter, at this point in his development. What will be interesting is when Chung is healthy. Does he replace Gregory in the lineup or play bench?

 

[RodThePat]

It all depends on what kind of coverage scheme they decide to run. If they keep McCourty at safety, they'll probably start Talib and Dennard at CB, two guys whose strengths lie in press-man coverage. If they keep playing zone all game, I don't think Talib will help them a whole lot. Dennard looked completely lost at times on Sunday, I don't see why they'd take a young player and have him play the majority of the time in a way that doesn't suit what he's best at.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

If Talib can somewhat hold down his side of the field on his own it means McCourty can cheat more towards Dennard's side so he has safety help over the top...that would obviously mean some sort of improvement.

They key though, they HAVE to play man to man press coverage, Talib & Dennard are made for that.

This. He can't do it alone but he can have a major impact. Still need Dennard, Cole/Arrington at #3, and the pass rush to step up though. It is possible.

 

[patsfan-1982]

They shut down Sam Bradford and the Rams pretty well a couple of weeks ago.

if only they could play Sam Bradford and that jeff fisher defense ever week in the playoffs lol

i think this defense dose have some talent but most of it is in the front 7 im hopeing that Talib will balance the defense out and they will start playing much better vs the pass because there are a few team in the AFC playoffs with the type of defeses that could hold brady under 20 points and if and when that happens the defense will have to punch right back and get a INT or a fast 3 and out

 

[Ring 6]

As long as Matt Patricia is still the DC, Talib is gonna stink. The culture and DNA needs to change as it starts from the top

The culture of the winning franchise in the league is what you assess as the 'problem'? Interesting

 

[Ring 6]

Who made the pick? Put him at cb and he keeps his back turned and gets flagged for pi...

Right because he has been flagged for pi twice this year, so that means it will happen every play

 

[DarrylS]

Based on yesterday's available personnel and how McCourty played at Safety, I think it's fair to say he will be playing there for the remainder of the season, if not permanently.

That would mean a starting Secondary of:

LCB: Alfonzo Dennard
RCB: Aqib Talib
SS: Steve Gregory/Patrick Chung
FS: Devin McCourty

Tavon Wilson hardly played yesterday, which makes me think they've lost confidence in him as a starter, at this point in his development. What will be interesting is when Chung is healthy. Does he replace Gregory in the lineup or play bench?

It may be as simple as experience, two weeks ago the combined NFL experience of the starting DB's was 5 years... it is a huge leap from Illinois to the New England Patriots..

They have not played many games together.. things will get better.

 

[leehanu]

Why hasn't Aqib Talib not reported yet???

 

[Sicilian]

Why hasn't Aqib Talib not reported yet???

If I remember correctly, he can't report until Tuesday due to his suspension.

I would temper your expectations for Talib in the Colts game. It may take a few weeks for everyone to gel together with him, especially if it's Chung's first game back from injury too. With any luck, they'll be in good form for the Houston and San Fran games.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Based on yesterday's available personnel and how McCourty played at Safety, I think it's fair to say he will be playing there for the remainder of the season, if not permanently.

That would mean a starting Secondary of:

LCB: Alfonzo Dennard
RCB: Aqib Talib
SS: Steve Gregory/Patrick Chung
FS: Devin McCourty

Tavon Wilson hardly played yesterday, which makes me think they've lost confidence in him as a starter, at this point in his development. What will be interesting is when Chung is healthy. Does he replace Gregory in the lineup or play bench?

It could be that, or it could be that Gregory's return to health plus McCourty's move to safety instantly put two 'better' candidates than him on the field. Considering how unimpressive Gregory was, though, I would hope to see a lot more of Wilson going forward. He got a lot of much-deserved ridicule for giving up that deep TD at the start of the Rams game, but he actually has a good amount of range/athleticism, which is exactly what the Pats' safeties will need if they're going to start playing a lot of press coverage (which you have to assume they will, if Dennard and Talib are the two main guys moving forward).