Sticky Towel Gate? Norv's getting desperate

[goheels22002]

What is the story behind Commissioner GoodJet fining the San Diego Chargers $20,000 for having sticky towels on their sideline?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/san-diego-chargers-fined-sticky-towel-case-110712

''It's disappointing to me,'' coach Norv Turner said. ''I think the most important thing, obviously, is that there's a lot of people in this league that were using the towel and certainly it wasn't being done in any way to deceive anybody.'' What?

First, $20k isn't enough to get anybody to stop doing anything. With eight weeks left, it's well worth $160,000 to improve Philip Rivers completion percentage. 2nd, What, exactly is on those towels? Did Norv sign unrestricted free agent PeeWee Herman as a wide receiver during bye week?

 

[chasa]

this is kind of insane that it went from "possible draft picks" to 20,000 fine, no suspensions, no draft choices given up.

1st half with the towels, they did awesome. Second half without towels, they got DESTROYED.

Gotta think something was being gained from using em.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Old news. Surprised how low key under the radar this went. I have no doubt had this been the Pats fines and possible suspensions would of been handed out. And no I'm not being self centered, that's how I feel.

 

[CheeseMonkeys]

sticky towels on their sideline?... 2nd, What, exactly is on those towels? Did Norv sign unrestricted free agent PeeWee Herman as a wide receiver during bye week?

Haha, Woaah!

 

[ThatllMoveTheChains!!!]

2nd, What, exactly is on those towels? Did Norv sign unrestricted free agent PeeWee Herman as a wide receiver during bye week?

Towel maker: Chargers were using our product, not Stickum | ProFootballTalk

Does anybody actually have this rule in writing? How is a towel soaked in a sticky substance that improves your "grip" somehow legal? "No officer I didn't drink any alcohol I simply mixed some with coke and drank the coke."

Everything that I've found about the rule points towards in being very general stating players cannot apply a sticky or slippery substance to any part of their bodies or equipment. If that's the case this seems like it clearly falls on the illegal side of things.

I'm 100% on the if this was the Pats it would've blown up in the media and Rog wouldn't be splitting hairs to make it "legal". Repeat offenders; BB suspended for a season, 1M fine to him and the team, Brady suspended for the season, 1 game suspension for every 100yds for the receivers, and 2 1st round picks sounds about right. Meanwhile fans across the nation would be saying that the punishment is evidence of the severity of the infraction, and since the infraction was so severe the Pats got off lightly.

 

[cavtroop]

An NFL investigation has cleared the Chargers of any wrongdoing for their use of a grip-enhancing towel, but the organization is being fined for a related incident.

The Chargers must pay a $20,000 penalty for an equipment staff member failing to comply with the authority of a game official at the team's Oct. 15 game against the Broncos.

It was at the center of a three-week investigation, which concluded with the NFL finding the towel to be widely used around the league and to carry no competitive advantage.

Chargers cleared for use of 'sticky' towels, still face fine | UTSanDiego.com

So, it's legal.

 

[Danger Zone]

Wonder if David Tyree had some of this applied to his helmet?

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So using an illegal substance that helps you to physically catch passes in a game that would have been drops through skill alone

Vs

Filming out in the open the exact same material that is allowed to be filmed but twent away from the spot you are allowed to be...


Considering the actual impact in in-game terms, Im thinking Goodell owes us 680,000 dollars and our first round pick back (and both with compounded interest)

 

[Sciz]

First, $20k isn't enough to get anybody to stop doing anything. With eight weeks left, it's well worth $160,000 to improve Philip Rivers completion percentage.

I'm nitpicking here, but it wouldn't continue to be $20k if they kept getting caught. The first fine is rarely too much. It's the repeat offenders that are going to get hit hard.

 

[JJDChE]

Non-story. Move along.

 

[Lurks_All_Day]

Did Norv sign unrestricted free agent PeeWee Herman as a wide receiver during bye week?

LEAVE PEE WEE ALONE!!!

 

[goheels22002]

Chargers cleared for use of 'sticky' towels, still face fine | UTSanDiego.com

So, it's legal.

But still sort of icky.

 

[Danger Zone]

But still sort of icky.

But still sort of st'icky... you meant to write?

 

[signbabybrady]

OK so I am highly confused so stick um is illegal but some pine tar type towel is not? If the towel was legal and could be used and the NFL confiscated it in the middle of the game and the Chargers were so night and day with and without it then seems like the NFL cost the Chargers a game and then fined the guy who was fighting with the official about it being legal. And you can video tape here but not here right. Maybe I am not so confused seems straight forward to me

 

[Koma]

Towel maker: Chargers were using our product, not Stickum | ProFootballTalk

Does anybody actually have this rule in writing? How is a towel soaked in a sticky substance that improves your "grip" somehow legal? "No officer I didn't drink any alcohol I simply mixed some with coke and drank the coke."

Everything that I've found about the rule points towards in being very general stating players cannot apply a sticky or slippery substance to any part of their bodies or equipment. If that's the case this seems like it clearly falls on the illegal side of things.

I'm 100% on the if this was the Pats it would've blown up in the media and Rog wouldn't be splitting hairs to make it "legal". Repeat offenders; BB suspended for a season, 1M fine to him and the team, Brady suspended for the season, 1 game suspension for every 100yds for the receivers, and 2 1st round picks sounds about right. Meanwhile fans across the nation would be saying that the punishment is evidence of the severity of the infraction, and since the infraction was so severe the Pats got off lightly.

That last sentence is one of my favorite contradictions when fans of other teams discuss the penalties the Patriots were assessed in 2007. And people don't even realize they're doing it, which makes it even more amusing.

As for the Chargers situation, I'll dust off a few other commonly used arguments: "The NFL covered this up." "If it didn't help, why did they do it." "If they weren't doing anything wrong, why did the league fine them?"

I think that firmly establishes their guilt in Message Board Courtroom.

 

[VJCPatriot]

It's probably stickum or vaseline suspected to be on the towel. Stickum has been banned by the NFL since 1981.

Chargers deny use of Stickum, say NFL investigating towel

What is the story behind Commissioner GoodJet fining the San Diego Chargers $20,000 for having sticky towels on their sideline?

NFL fines San Diego Chargers $20K in sticky towel case - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

''It's disappointing to me,'' coach Norv Turner said. ''I think the most important thing, obviously, is that there's a lot of people in this league that were using the towel and certainly it wasn't being done in any way to deceive anybody.'' What?

First, $20k isn't enough to get anybody to stop doing anything. With eight weeks left, it's well worth $160,000 to improve Philip Rivers completion percentage. 2nd, What, exactly is on those towels? Did Norv sign unrestricted free agent PeeWee Herman as a wide receiver during bye week?

 

[BananaRepublican]

It's probably stickum or vaseline suspected to be on the towel.

Anybody remember the Cowboys teflon spraying their jerseys so that Coates would get it on his gloves when he grabbed them? Cost the Pats the game (in Dallas) on at least one big drop by Coates.

I think that was the game where a rookie Adam Vinatieri caught Hershel Walker from behind on a kick return? Is that right?

 

[goheels22002]

Anybody remember the Cowboys teflon spraying their jerseys so that Coates would get it on his gloves when he grabbed them? Cost the Pats the game (in Dallas) on at least one big drop by Coates.

I think that was the game where a rookie Adam Vinatieri caught Hershel Walker from behind on a kick return? Is that right?

Here you go: Adam Vinatieri tackles Herschel Walker from behind - "...closing speed, I've never used closing speed with a kicker..."

adam vinatieri runs down herschel walker - YouTube