Chiefs Release CB Stanford Routt. Any Interest?

[Major **********]

Yeah, having two $50 million plus cornerbacks was definitely the way to go. C'mon....

Especially when they paid Eric Berry 60 million the year before they gave Flowers 50 mill (#5 pick overall before the new CBA). That is a lot of money invested in that backfield. Tough to justify spending another 50 mill on another CB when the team has so many other needs.

 

[Deus Irae]

Especially when they paid Eric Berry 60 million the year before they gave Flowers 50 mill (#5 pick overall before the new CBA). That is a lot of money invested in that backfield. Tough to justify spending another 50 mill on another CB when the team has so many other needs.

Exactly. It was an easy "No thanks" to Carr. The Chiefs would have been stupid to pay him what Dallas did.

 

[Deus Irae]

KC is rumored to be 26 million under the cap and Carr wanted 5 million more.

Next season they have to spend up the cap anyway so forwarding the 2012 cap savings will do them a lot of good this season when Pioli gets fired after the Chiefs go 4 - 12.

Stupid, Carr knew the defense and wanted to stay in KC and Pioli pizzed him off.

Carr didn't want to stay in K.C.. Carr wanted to play in Dallas. Jones admittedly overpaid in order to make sure it happened.

 

[SteveKiner]

Rout stinks.

Pioli was a fool to let Carr go and sign that Bum when KC is millions under the cap.

Don't know about the second statement. I don't follow KC and /or Carr but I tend to agree with the first statement. He may have improved, but when he was with the Railers, he was awful. He was PI penalty waiting for a place to happen. When Al Davis put the frenchise tag on him a couple years ago even Routt had to think it was a joke. He wasn't even a full time starter the previous year and I think AL panicked when he lost Asomugha. He had Chris Johnson on one side and needed a replacment for Asomugha. Routt was a "potential" replacement due to his measurables etc. He filled in okay at times but mostly he looked lost. Put in a tough situation sure but he was nowhere near being a franchise player. I don't think too many tears were shed by Raider Nation when he left. He still has the measurables and actully played pretty well against the Raiders a couple weeks ago. He had a pick and couple defended. But as bad as the Pats secondary is, I don't see Routt as an improvement especially with the Pats DB coaches.

 

[Franchise12]

If I had to guess what happened in KC with Routt, I'd say he hated playing zone coverages and was probably very vocal about it. Raider cornerbacks, in recent years, Excel in press man coverage because that pretty much all they're asked to do.

Routt would improve the patriots secondary if we ever decided to predominantly employ man to man coverage.

 

[Mack Herron]

If I had to guess what happened in KC with Routt, I'd say he hated playing zone coverages and was probably very vocal about it. Raider cornerbacks, in recent years, Excel in press man coverage because that pretty much all they're asked to do.

Routt would improve the patriots secondary if we ever decided to predominantly employ man to man coverage.

Heck I'd play naked man to man if it would just kill the big plays.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

He is subject to waivers and has an option bonus of $10m next year. Not sure if this passes onto the team that claims him, but that would be a deterrent for teams trying to claim him.

Mac's Football Blog: Stanford Routt Contract Breakdown

When a team trades for a player/claim a player off waivers, the team inherits all future obligations. So, yes, a team claiming him would have that option bonus on his contract. OTOH, contracts can be renegotiated.

 

[mayoclinic]

He is subject to waivers and has an option bonus of $10m next year. Not sure if this passes onto the team that claims him, but that would be a deterrent for teams trying to claim him.

Mac's Football Blog: Stanford Routt Contract Breakdown

If I team claims him off waivers they normally pick up his existing contract. That would put that team on the hook for a prorated portion of his $1.8M salary for 2012, and for anything beyond. Nothing beyond this year is guaranteed, so a team could essentially rent Routt for 7-8 games and then decide whether to pick up his option for 2013.

At 5-3 the Pats would sit somewhere around 25th or so in the waiver list. Tampa Bay at 4-4 would be ahead of them and needs CB help, having just traded away Talib to us. A few other teams might bite as well. I'm not sure whether BB would be tempted to put in a waiver claim on Routt or not. If Routt passes through waivers he is a FA and is free to sign with any team, and I'm not sure why he would be particularly interested in the Pats.

Seems like a low likelihood thing to me, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Fencer]

Based on the timing, I'd conjecture they attempted to trade him and found no takers.

That would include the Pats.

 

[Marqui]

He still has the measurables and actully played pretty well against the Raiders a couple weeks ago. He had a pick and couple defended. But as bad as the Pats secondary is, I don't see Routt as an improvement especially with the Pats DB coaches.

Don't see how you can say he wouldn't be an improvement. That one game he "played pretty well" is already more good games than Arrington has had this year.

 

[manxman2601]

If I team claims him off waivers they normally pick up his existing contract. That would put that team on the hook for a prorated portion of his $1.8M salary for 2012, and for anything beyond. Nothing beyond this year is guaranteed, so a team could essentially rent Routt for 7-8 games and then decide whether to pick up his option for 2013.

At 5-3 the Pats would sit somewhere around 25th or so in the waiver list. Tampa Bay at 4-4 would be ahead of them and needs CB help, having just traded away Talib to us. A few other teams might bite as well. I'm not sure whether BB would be tempted to put in a waiver claim on Routt or not. If Routt passes through waivers he is a FA and is free to sign with any team, and I'm not sure why he would be particularly interested in the Pats.

Seems like a low likelihood thing to me, but stranger things have happened.

If he was to sign on for the rest of the season, he might see us as a real chance to win a ring and get in the shop window for his new big contract with whomever.

Based on the timing, I'd conjecture they attempted to trade him and found no takers.

That would include the Pats.

Good point. Although trading for him would have required us to pick up his expensive contract. We might be more interested at a lower price.

 

[JJDChE]

Seems like a Fat Albert-like situation to me.

DO NOT WANT.

 

[mayoclinic]

Based on the timing, I'd conjecture they attempted to trade him and found no takers.

That would include the Pats.

Given what they Pats have already given up for Talib, I can't imagine that they would make another trade. Putting in a waiver claim could be another matter.

IF McCourty moves to FS, having 3 guys who can play press-man would be nice. Routt could essentially be a replacement for Ras-I Dowling being on IR, with Arrington/Cole being the nickel/dime. Moore would be on the PS in case of injury. That would be a pretty nice group of CBs. It would also give the Pats the option of two 6'1 outside CBs to match up against taller WRs at times.

I doubt it will happen, but there is a certain attraction to the idea.

 

[Sweet Chin Music33]

I would at least kick the tires on him...

 

[manxman2601]

Given what they Pats have already given up for Talib, I can't imagine that they would make another trade. Putting in a waiver claim could be another matter.

IF McCourty moves to FS, having 3 guys who can play press-man would be nice. Routt could essentially be a replacement for Ras-I Dowling being on IR, with Arrington/Cole being the nickel/dime. Moore would be on the PS in case of injury. That would be a pretty nice group of CBs. It would also give the Pats the option of two 6'1 outside CBs to match up against taller WRs at times.

I doubt it will happen, but there is a certain attraction to the idea.

As Talib was reportedly almost literally a last minute trade, if Routt was on the block, any trade would have happened before the Talib one. Which begs the question, if Talib was a last minute trade, did BB suddenly think, "You know what, we really need a corner" or had he kicked tyres on other options before Talib meaning Talib was not first choice. I don't know but interesting.

Edit: Or did he only read your blueprint thread on deadline day and got the idea then

 

[Triumph]

Carr didn't want to stay in K.C.. Carr wanted to play in Dallas. Jones admittedly overpaid in order to make sure it happened.

Youre wrong.

Pioli doesnt know a good CB from a bust either.

Money was the only reason that Carr was looking for a new home. The former fifth-round draft choice has grown into one of the AFC's better cover cornerbacks. The key thing is he's always available, having started all 64 games he's played since joining the Chiefs in 2008. At 26, he's just now coming into his prime seasons.

Plus, Carr wanted to stay in Kansas City.

Chiefs didn't do enough to keep Carr

 

[Danger Zone]

I'd say sign him for no other reason than to F with Bedard's head. :snob:

And it never hurts to kick the tires.

I have complete and utter confidence in Belichick's ability (and in the maturity of the other guys in the lockerroom) to know when it's time to cut lose a potential cancer.

 

[Triumph]

Exactly. It was an easy "No thanks" to Carr. The Chiefs would have been stupid to pay him what Dallas did.

1 - 7 and they just sent Routt packing.

The NFL is a passing league and the Chiefs had a secondary that would have been together for a while. Considering how hard it is to find good CBs in the draft the move was stupid and Pioli is paying the price now.

 

[Deus Irae]

Youre wrong.

Pioli doesnt know a good CB from a bust either.



Chiefs didn't do enough to keep Carr

I'm not wrong. It was well known on the boards over there and, again, the Cowboys have admitted that they overpaid to make sure that he signed with them.

Speaking of those Cowboys, by the way, how's that team doing now that they've paid Carr that money? They're what, 8-0, right?

 

[Deus Irae]

1 - 7 and they just sent Routt packing.

The NFL is a passing league and the Chiefs had a secondary that would have been together for a while. Considering how hard it is to find good CBs in the draft the move was stupid and Pioli is paying the price now.

Dallas is 3-5. Your argument sucks, by your own use of records.