CB that GB selected with the Pats 2nd Round Pick named Defensive Rookie of the Month

[JMC00]

Won Defensive Rookie of the month

Casey Hayward is the defensive rookie of the month | ProFootballTalk

Trade was

#62 (Hayward)
for
#90 (Bequette)
#163 (Traded back to Green Bay. Selected Terrell Manning )
for
#197 (Ebner)
#224 (Dennard)
#235 (Ebert)

 

[BritPat]

A lot of us in the draft forum liked him coming out.

 

[nekromantique]

yeah...I liked him. I also likes janoris jenkins. both have played well (despite what the recent rams game would say about jenkins).

dennard has worked out well though. ebner is a solid st player who shows good instincts on d (though he by no means is ready for play on defense).

and bequette adds depth.


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[mayoclinic]

It's a little too early to give up on Jake Bequette - prospects develop at different rates. But Heyward was certainly on the list of potential prospects to consider at 62.

If the Pats could somehow have found a way of taking Heyward and still getting Dennard and Ebner, that would have been a pretty nice haul. Assuming that Chung and Arrington are probably in their last year and McCourty is staying at safety, McCourty-Wilson-Gregory-Ebner at safety and Heyward-Dennard-Dowling-Cole (if Dowling can ever stay on the field) at CB wouldn't be a bad young nucleus.

 

[Gumby]

the one that got away is ALWAYS the BIGGEST FISH.


The pats had possibly the best draft in recent memory / last 10 years and you want to complain about one trade that netted 4 guys who are all ON THE TEAM??? where is that palm slap gif?

 

[patsfaninpa]

Dennard might be just as good in the long run.Not to mention Bequette.

 

[Teapot]

ey but Ebner `plays rugby.

 

[mayoclinic]

It's a little too early to give up on Jake Bequette - prospects develop at different rates. But Heyward was certainly on the list of potential prospects to consider at 62.

If the Pats could somehow have found a way of taking Heyward and still getting Dennard and Ebner, that would have been a pretty nice haul. Assuming that Chung and Arrington are probably in their last year and McCourty is staying at safety, McCourty-Wilson-Gregory-Ebner at safety and Heyward-Dennard-Dowling-Cole (if Dowling can ever stay on the field) at CB wouldn't be a bad young nucleus.

Of course, now that the Pats have traded for Aqib Talib - which I suggested that they do a week or two ago - they have a nucleus of Talib-Dennard-Dowling at CB and McCourty-Wilson-Gregory-Ebner at safety, assuming that Chung moves on after this season at the latest. That's a nice nucleus. Talib and Dowling (if he can stay healthy) would give the team 6'1" bookend CBs, and both guys plus Dennard are physical CBs who can play press/man coverage.

The secondary is shaping up. I can live without Casey Heyward.

 

[Rossmci90]

I didn't really like the trades at the time, didn't think the Pats got an even deal.

But I'm happy with Dennard, intrigued about Ebner in the long term, and slightly disappointed in Bequette.

Still way too early to call.

 

[I Augustus]

Frankly,I thought Patriots would draft either Mohamed Sanu or Rueben Randale and be done at this point.

 

[jsull87]

Of course, now that the Pats have traded for Aqib Talib - which I suggested that they do a week or two ago - they have a nucleus of Talib-Dennard-Dowling at CB and McCourty-Wilson-Gregory-Ebner at safety, assuming that Chung moves on after this season at the latest. That's a nice nucleus. Talib and Dowling (if he can stay healthy) would give the team 6'1" bookend CBs, and both guys plus Dennard are physical CBs who can play press/man coverage.

The secondary is shaping up. I can live without Casey Heyward.

This will be very interesting won't it. Talib with McCourty outside could be interesting... but then again McCourty staying at FS seems to have the pats a little more stable deep.

Very interesting times for the Pats and i love it

 

[Shockt327]

No offense...

...but haven't we spent the last 2 months talking about how the Pats coaching staff is the huge reason why the secondary is failing? So, you can't have it both ways. If NE drafted Hayward...he wouldn't pan out. Same thing for McCourtey. It's not a lack of talent. It's a lack of coaching.

 

[Sciz]

I think the biggest knock on him from the Pats' point of view is that he was a better zone corner than man corner coming out of college, and they would have rather gotten a man corner (like Dennard) who only had to adjust to the NFL rather than a zone corner who had to learn how to play man coverage AND adjust to NFL speed. Good player, but in hindsight I can see why the Pats didn't pick him.

 

[Ifleninwasawizard]

No offense...

...but haven't we spent the last 2 months talking about how the Pats coaching staff is the huge reason why the secondary is failing? So, you can't have it both ways. If NE drafted Hayward...he wouldn't pan out. Same thing for McCourtey. It's not a lack of talent. It's a lack of coaching.

That is by no means the consensus.

After all, last season the coaching staff picked up guys off the street and were able to get to the SB. Our secondary was awful talent wise, but not bad enough to destroy our chance at winning it all.

This season we have had games with multiple rookie DB's starting. And in all honesty, if the offense had played only a little closer to how good it probably can we could be 8-0 right now.

The coaching staff has made a lot out of a little and shown that it can have an inexperienced D improve over the course of a season. Clearly our DB's have been lacking in talent, experience, or both lately. By the end of the season we should be able to field a group that has more talent and more experience playing as a single group than we have seen in the past few years.

 

[captain stone]

I didn't really like the trades at the time, didn't think the Pats got an even deal.

But I'm happy with Dennard, intrigued about Ebner in the long term, and slightly disappointed in Bequette.

Still way too early to call.

What really pisses me off about that trade is that Cleveland later sends 67 to Denver for 87 & 120.
Bill traded with Denver for Hightower during the first round, so it's not like he didn't know their
phone number. GB took him to the cleaners on that one.

And for the hundreth time, dam the Fat Albert & OchoStinko trades; they handcuffed Bill during
this year's draft, and they'll handcuff him during next year's draft too. We warned him...

 

[VJCPatriot]

Bequette has been invisible but Dennard and Ebner look pretty good. The Pats went for quantity and they have 3 players to show for that pick instead of one.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

I'm fairly certain we could have fielded the best team in history, no questions asked, if we knew what the players would turn out like 1-3 years later.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

This is nothing compared to 2006, when the Pats traded UP with the Packers to trade Chad Jackson. The Packers then urinated on the Pats by selecting Greg Jennings in their trade-down slot. I don't even want to look up who else they got- probably Jordy Nelson, John Kuhn, and James Jones all in one pick.

 

[Spiral]

It's also not fair to say that without this trade, we wouldn't have Dennard. He was picked with the 224th pick in the draft. There's a good chance he would have gone undrafted if the Pats didn't take him.

 

[PatsFan2]

GB has done so well when they Trade with our Pats...i wouldn't Trade with them anymore in the future. Clay Matthews - Greg Jennings and now this kid are you reading this board BB?? NO More Trades with Greenbay in the future.