Random Statistical Observations while waiting out a Hurricane

[Patsfanin Philly]

Random Statistical Thoughts after week 8 while waiting out a Hurricane
1) The Pats are one of only 2 teams to have played 5 road games (Seattle 1-4) and they have a 3-2 road record, Only three other teams have three or more road wins at this point ( Hou, Atl, NYG). It bodes well when the only road games are Mia,NYJ and Jax and the teams with the best records (SF, Hou) have to come to Foxboro.

2) The Pats lead the lead in scoring (262) and net Points (92)

3) The 30 touchdowns scored by the Pats are only two less than the total scored by Jacksonville, KC and Philadelphia have scored combined!!!

4) If the season ended today, the AFC division champs would be NE, Balt, Hou, Den and the two wildcards would be from Miami, Pitt and Indy…
5) The battle for the second seed vs Balt for the second bye. Balt’s remaining games- @Clev, Oak, H/A vs Pitt, @SD, @Wash, Den, NYG, @Cinn while the Pats’ remaining games are Buff, Indy, @Mia, @NYJ, Hou, SF, @Jax, Mia. The winning percentage of Balt opponents (29-30) is .491. while the winning percentage of Pats’ opponents (30-26) is .535. Obviously Balt has the head to head tiebreaker but we'll see how the injuries affect them long term...

6) I can't remember a team, any team going 6/7 in red zone possessions before....as the Pats did yesterday even in 2007..
7) The Pats are 5th in the league in passing with 291.1 ypg passing and 5th in the league in rushing 149.6 ypg.

8) In games in which Ridley rushes for 100 yards, the Pats are 4-0 and with over 700 yards at the halfway point, he’s on pace for one of the best season by a Pats RB since Corey Dillon’s 1635 yds, Curtis Martin’s 1487 and Jim Nance’s 1458* (14 games in 1966)

9) The Pats have been successful on 49% of their third down attempts (57/117) second in the league versus Pittsburgh’s 52%

10) The Pats are tied with the NYG in turnovers with a +13, (over 1.5 per game)

11) The Pats average 29 first downs per game, more than 4 more per game than the next best team Det (24.9)
12) The Pats have run 613 plays from scrimmage (76 per game), more than 11 more per game than the next best team (GB).

13) The Pats have 48 penalties ( 6 per game), 14th most in the league. Oakland is the 8th LEAST penalized team....

14) The Pats lead the league in rushing TDs (12) and have the second highest number of runs that result in first downs (30.4%) and the highest number of rushing first downs , 84.

15) 31.3% of Ridley’s runs result in a first down, highest among the leading rushers.

16) The Pats' rushing defense is tied for the league lead with 3.5 ypc (Mia, TB) and only giving up 88.6 ypg. The longest run they have given up is 20 yards and only one of them. Compared to last year, they gave up the 8th worst at 4.6 ypc and 10 runs of 20 yards or more (over the entire season, twice as long as this sample)
17) The Pats have only allowed 6 rushing TDs, 6th best in the league.
18) The defense has given up 42 passing plays of 20 yards or more, by far the league worst over the next team (35,NYG) and defense is only giving up 10 less yards passing compared to last year(281.1 vs 293.9)
19) To show how useless Time of Possession is, the Rams a TOP of 31:06 to the Pats 28:54. That's what happens when you play uptempo and score quickly...

20) At one point yesterday, after the Giants game but before Denver’s game last night, both Eli and Peyton had the same number of ypg passing 301.3
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[jmt57]

On point #10 it's almost an unfair comparison considering the Giants have played the Romo and the Cowboys twice. ... (plus the Eagles, Bucs, Panthers and Redskins).

 

[RobertWeathers]

The Pats have forced 14 fumbles this year and have recovered 13. My take is that is pretty darn good.

 

[ALP]

The Pats have forced 14 fumbles this year and have recovered 13. My take is that is pretty darn good.

the other one probably went out of bounds

 

[MoneyFX]

One more thing to point out, NE leads the league in point differential with a +92 (Notable teams: Houston +88, Baltimore +13, Denver +52, NY Giants +73, Chicago +85, Green Bay +38, Atlanta +71, San Francisco +86).

**SF updated right after win over Arizona

 

[signbabybrady]

the other one probably went out of bounds

that was Mayo on Sunday who stripped it but it went out of bounds.

 

[juny]

The Pats have forced 14 fumbles this year and have recovered 13. My take is that is pretty darn good.

oh what i wouldn't give if they recovered one fumble 8 months ago.

 

[ATippett56]

It Is What It Is » A statistical comparison of 2011 and 2012 Patriots through eight games

 

[JMC00]

17) The Pats have only allowed 6 rushing TDs, 6th best in the league.

Where did you get that from? Everyone has them only giving up 3 rushing TDs

 

[MrNathanDrake]

On point #10 it's almost an unfair comparison considering the Giants have played the Romo and the Cowboys twice. ... (plus the Eagles,

lol Romo and Vick are turn over machines. You are right

 

[VJCPatriot]

Where did you get that from? Everyone has them only giving up 3 rushing TDs

You are correct. I just checked NFL.com and the Pats have only give up 3 rushing TDs in 8 games.

Want to know a more astonishing fact? The Houston Texans have given up ZERO rushing TDs through 7 games.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

 

[JoeSixPat]

Good observations Philly Phan!

This team has a lot of flaws but a lot of upside. Overall the AFC strikes me as overall one of the weakest I can remember. That's both good and bad for the Pats.

But one shouldn't expect a team to peak in September and October regardless. Good health and better play in January is key. If there's one thing the losses to the Giants in the SB should hit home is that a regular season mediocre team like them can get hot at the right time and win it all.

Let us know how things are in Philly. You guys more or less took a direct hit. Maybe underground power lines spared you the loss of electricity. My bud down there said on Sundah "what's the big deal? It's only a Category 1" - famous last words.

Meanwhile here in southern Rhody even the 12 hours of tropical storm winds resulted in numerous trees down, damage and no power. Given that every lineman from Florida to Canada will be working round the clock, I won't be surprised if I go a week without power. Luckily my small generator is enough for the fridge, freezer, and well pump, (and IPad!) so I've got nothing to complain about.

 

[nekromantique]

The Pats have forced 14 fumbles this year and have recovered 13. My take is that is pretty darn good.

that's not correct. I think it's 11 recovered. they didn't recover one against the rams...and also against the bills. can't remember the other.


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[1960Pats]

Random Statistical Thoughts after week 8 while waiting out a Hurricane
1) The Pats are one of only 2 teams to have played 5 road games (Seattle 1-4) and they have a 3-2 road record, Only three other teams have three or more road wins at this point ( Hou, Atl, NYG). It bodes well when the only road games are Mia,NYJ and Jax and the teams with the best records (SF, Hou) have to come to Foxboro.

2) The Pats lead the lead in scoring (262) and net Points (92)

3) The 30 touchdowns scored by the Pats are only two less than the total scored by Jacksonville, KC and Philadelphia have scored combined!!!

4) If the season ended today, the AFC division champs would be NE, Balt, Hou, Den and the two wildcards would be from Miami, Pitt and Indy…
5) The battle for the second seed vs Balt for the second bye. Balt’s remaining games- @Clev, Oak, H/A vs Pitt, @SD, @Wash, Den, NYG, @Cinn while the Pats’ remaining games are Buff, Indy, @Mia, @NYJ, Hou, SF, @Jax, Mia. The winning percentage of Balt opponents (29-30) is .491. while the winning percentage of Pats’ opponents (30-26) is .535. Obviously Balt has the head to head tiebreaker but we'll see how the injuries affect them long term...

6) I can't remember a team, any team going 6/7 in red zone possessions before....as the Pats did yesterday even in 2007..
7) The Pats are 5th in the league in passing with 291.1 ypg passing and 5th in the league in rushing 149.6 ypg.

8) In games in which Ridley rushes for 100 yards, the Pats are 4-0 and with over 700 yards at the halfway point, he’s on pace for one of the best season by a Pats RB since Corey Dillon’s 1635 yds, Curtis Martin’s 1487 and Jim Nance’s 1458* (14 games in 1966)

9) The Pats have been successful on 49% of their third down attempts (57/117) second in the league versus Pittsburgh’s 52%

10) The Pats are tied with the NYG in turnovers with a +13, (over 1.5 per game)

11) The Pats average 29 first downs per game, more than 4 more per game than the next best team Det (24.9)
12) The Pats have run 613 plays from scrimmage (76 per game), more than 11 more per game than the next best team (GB).

13) The Pats have 48 penalties ( 6 per game), 14th most in the league. Oakland is the 8th LEAST penalized team....

14) The Pats lead the league in rushing TDs (12) and have the second highest number of runs that result in first downs (30.4%) and the highest number of rushing first downs , 84.

15) 31.3% of Ridley’s runs result in a first down, highest among the leading rushers.

16) The Pats' rushing defense is tied for the league lead with 3.5 ypc (Mia, TB) and only giving up 88.6 ypg. The longest run they have given up is 20 yards and only one of them. Compared to last year, they gave up the 8th worst at 4.6 ypc and 10 runs of 20 yards or more (over the entire season, twice as long as this sample)
17) The Pats have only allowed 6 rushing TDs, 6th best in the league.
18) The defense has given up 42 passing plays of 20 yards or more, by far the league worst over the next team (35,NYG) and defense is only giving up 10 less yards passing compared to last year(281.1 vs 293.9)
19) To show how useless Time of Possession is, the Rams a TOP of 31:06 to the Pats 28:54. That's what happens when you play uptempo and score quickly...

20) At one point yesterday, after the Giants game but before Denver’s game last night, both Eli and Peyton had the same number of ypg passing 301.3
...

Good work. Thanks.

I'd also like to add that they're 0-2 when they run the ball for 30-39% of the plays, 2-1 when they run it 40-49%, 2-0 at 50-59% and 1-0 at 60-69%.

I'm not concerned about yardage at all. Those numbers can be very misleading. When the Pats run the ball more they win much, much more, no matter the yards per carry.

 

[RobertWeathers]

that's not correct. I think it's 11 recovered. they didn't recover one against the rams...and also against the bills. can't remember the other.


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Yep- You are right. The 14/13 includes Brady's fumble that he didn't lose and Ridley's 2 fumbles in which he recovered 1 of them.

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[goheels22002]

You are correct. I just checked NFL.com and the Pats have only give up 3 rushing TDs in 8 games.

Want to know a more astonishing fact? The Houston Texans have given up ZERO rushing TDs through 7 games.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

That's okay. The Patriots will do all their damage through the air, if need be.

The Patriots are doing better in pretty much every statistical category over last year, but their record after 8 games is still the same annoying 5-3.

 

[Deus Irae]

Good work. Thanks.

I'd also like to add that they're 0-2 when they run the ball for 30-39% of the plays, 2-1 when they run it 40-49%, 2-0 at 50-59% and 1-0 at 60-69%.

I'm not concerned about yardage at all. Those numbers can be very misleading. When the Pats run the ball more they win much, much more, no matter the yards per carry.

Assuming I counted right (also, penalty plays not counted)...

First half:
13 carries
23 passes

36% run/64% pass ratio led to a 28-7 lead and, in conjunction with the TD on the opening drive of the second half (2 runs/4 passes... 33% run) effectively ended the game.