Looks like the Pats will be in London longer than expected

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

I live in Manhattan, which right now is "bulls eye" for the storm's path on Monday morning so we're following it closely, but even the worst case models don't have it as anything more than a lot of rain and manageable winds on late Sunday night and early Monday morning for Boston.

I am in NEPA which,give or take could be in line for damaging winds of up to 60 MPH and 6 to 8 inches of rain.

I wish you and your family safety during this event PFS1974,this storm will sit for 48 hours over your area,I hope you have prepared.

I don't know what precautions airlines will take in this situation,they could call flights to the eastern US off at any time,just as they did with Isaac...Boston should be o.k. Until late Sunday night as you say.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Having experience in this industry there is no way the Pats arrive back in Boston at midnight local time.

The game will not finish till 8pm ish UK time so to fly out that night (with noise curfew etc) is unlikely. Added to this they are chartering a 747 from a major airline (it is used on other flights) and whilst a late change could happen, the logistics (pilot schedules, crew rest etc) are very difficult to organise. Not saying it couldn't happen but it would be a mad dash from the game with no interviews etc.

I think more likely they monitor the situation at Logan. Virgin ops will know if it is safe to land and will have a "divert" airport in case (not ideal for the team) if the forecast got worse en route.

You might well be right. But, I've taken more private flights (from GS to Boeing planes) than I can count and almost anything is usually possible unless the authorities shut an airport. I've seen noise curfews weighed for private flights with the right "influence" several times. And, I would be very surprised if equipment isn't available given the profile of the passengers; this is a major economic windfall for London, meaning that the NFL will be able to exert a lot of pull. That said, an early Monday morning (six or seven am) departure is also a possibility, which would avoid some of those issues and still get the lads home early morning Monday, before the storm is an issue in the Boston area.

 

[harrylime70]

You might well be right. But, I've taken more private flights (from GS to Boeing planes) than I can count and almost anything is usually possible unless the authorities shut an airport. I've seen noise curfews weighed for private flights with the right "influence" several times. And, I would be very surprised if equipment isn't available given the profile of the passengers; this is a major economic windfall for London, meaning that the NFL will be able to exert a lot of pull. That said, an early Monday morning (six or seven am) departure is also a possibility, which would avoid some of those issues and still get the lads home early morning Monday, before the storm is an issue in the Boston area.

You are right there are exceptions to the curfew at Heathrow (cargo, charters) but it will still take some organising, and maybe even a different aircraft, but could be done if they felt it was essential for safety reasons. Would probably get into Logan at 3am ish (if my times are right). Key is that everyone gets home safe. British Airways are offering all passengers booked to the East Coast of America flexible changes for any travel 26-31 Oct, so not a good sign.

Take care over there guys!

 

[PP2]

Sandy is projected to hit New England sometimes tomorrow night. It has been downgraded again, but remains potent.

The Pats would be wise to stay over there longer. Who knows. perhaps the secondary could suddenly develop some chemistry by hanging out in London.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Agreed, Mo. Their flight will likely cross over and come in up around Gander, then head south along the coast to Boston. They'll be out of the way of the storm for it.

Might get a little chop on the descent into Logan, but other than that not too much to worry about.

As someone who has spent so much time on international flights that he long ago lost count of the number and once told a friend that his body clock was "permanently set to Greenwich Mean Time," I think that you are right. I also think that the fewer trans-oceanic flights one has under their belt, the bigger a deal this seems.

Based on even the worst case forecasts of the storm's path, the Patriots are looking at a slightly longer than usual crossing that is vectored well north of the storm and that has to deal with some rain and wind on landing late Sunday night/Monday Morning or mid Monday morning.

If the game were played on Monday and not Sunday or if they were flying into New York, I would have a different view; but, in the latter case I'd probably just say that they would be diverted to BOS or PVD, assuming the latter can accommodate international arrivals.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Bangor Intl Airport is a safe diversion far from the expected path, as international flights flying the great circle cross over it and often use it for emergencies, not that it will be necessary, see Mo et. al.'s posts.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Bangor Intl Airport is a safe diversion far from the expected path, as international flights flying the great circle cross over it and often use it for emergencies, not that it will be necessary, see Mo et. al.'s posts.

Good catch. I'd forgotten about the Bangor option. A lot of flights ended up there on 911. Just a chartered bus ride back to MA.

 

[Patjew]

If the game were played on Monday and not Sunday or if they were flying into New York, I would have a different view; but, in the latter case I'd probably just say that they would be diverted to BOS or PVD, assuming the latter can accommodate international arrivals.

It can't. I think its runway can't handle 747s either.

I'm about 1/5 mile from the bay here in Barrington, RI. Wondering if I should start freaking out yet.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

It can't. I think its runway can't handle 747s either.

I'm about 1/5 mile from the bay here in Barrington, RI. Wondering if I should start freaking out yet.

Only depends on the track after it sets inland,once over land it weakens from a hurricane into a tropical storm then into a basic large low pressure system as it heads up north and into slightly cooler waters.

We will be hit harder here in PA and NY then in RI ...I believe.

Regardless,The best of luck to yourself,family and belongings PJ

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

It can't. I think its runway can't handle 747s either.

I'm about 1/5 mile from the bay here in Barrington, RI. Wondering if I should start freaking out yet.

Should be fine...everything has it going much more south than that we will have winds..but i don't see it as widespread damage or major damage to our area up here..maybe a few trees down and a few inches of rain

 

[Patjew]

Only depends on the track after it sets inland,once over land it weakens from a hurricane into a tropical storm then into a basic large low pressure system as it heads up north and into slightly cooler waters.

We will be hit harder here in PA and NY then in RI ...I believe.

Regardless,The best of luck to yourself,family and belongings PJ

Thanks and the same to you and yours.

 

[resdubwhite]

Best of luck to you all with this one.

Frankenstorm eh.
Heading for Meadowlands NJ eh.

May the force be with it.


Seriously though.

Hope everyone ends up ok, and People only drive if neccessary.

 

[DolphinsX72]

She obviously wanted to watch the big Dolphins-Jets & Falcons-Eagles games on Sunday before hitting the area.

So is this one stronger or weaker than Irene?

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

She obviously wanted to watch the big Dolphins-Jets & Falcons-Eagles games on Sunday before hitting the area.

So is this one stronger or weaker than Irene?

Sandy will be stronger than Irene once it comes over land,Irene was preceeded last year by continuous rains in the north which only made Irene more dangerous,but Irene was primarily a coastal storm which is why it remained strong going up north,Sandy is heading north up until the jersey coast then swings west then northwest over land,you could say it is heading into an 's' type pattern......a weather event that is unlike almost all others and should be disastrous to some northeast locations.

 

[Wolfpack]

Why do these "Storms of a Lifetime" happen every year? Why are there "100 year storms" every decade?

For us it will be no worse than a northeaster...albeit with with huge seas....

It is all a plot by the supermarkets to clean their shelves...

We live in a shortsighted society that constantly labels the most recent event the "best ever", "worst ever", "biggest ever", etc. People can't see more than 2 inches in front of their faces, so they always look at something that just happened and give it far more extreme than it deserves.

 

[Wolfpack]

The National Hurricane Service has this storm well south of New England on Monday morning. It's not that powerful of a hurricane - in fact, it's barely stradling the line between hurricane and tropical storm status. It seems to me the Patriots will have a window Sunday night to rush home and get here before the winds seriously pick up.

 

[PatsDeb]

I don't think so. They'll probably leave right after the game and get back before the storm hits. Or, maybe some of them planned to stay for a little vacation anyway since they have the bye week.

 

[PatsDeb]

Sandy will be stronger than Irene once it comes over land,Irene was preceeded last year by continuous rains in the north which only made Irene more dangerous,but Irene was primarily a coastal storm which is why it remained strong going up north,Sandy is heading north up until the jersey coast then swings west then northwest over land,you could say it is heading into an 's' type pattern......a weather event that is unlike almost all others and should be disastrous to some northeast locations.

I don't know. It seems the more they hype something like this storm, the less it turns out to be. Last year the weather service said nothing about the storm right before Halloween and that one walloped us. Plus, I already went out and bought batteries, flashlights and matches (so I can light my gas stove), so since I am prepared, the storm will be nothing.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

I don't know. It seems the more they hype something like this storm, the less it turns out to be. Last year the weather service said nothing about the storm right before Halloween and that one walloped us. Plus, I already went out and bought batteries, flashlights and matches (so I can light my gas stove), so since I am prepared, the storm will be nothing.

I hope you are right...unlike football predictions,I and most meteorologists,hope to be wrong on this one

 

[Uncle Rico]

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