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Yates, is right out point with his description of the poor clock management at the end of the half.

Brady, McDaniels and BB were dreadful, those 3 points could have come in handy.

Picked-up pieces after first-half review - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

"10. It's already been a hot topic of conversation, and likely will continue to be in the coming days, so here's one scribe's assessment of the Patriots' clock management to close the first half. The Patriots began the drive at the 24-yard line with two timeouts and 40 seconds on the clock and opened it up with a pass to Wes Welker that took them to the 8-yard line. At that point, with 35 seconds remaining, they should have called a timeout. It would have afforded the team a goal-to-go situation with ample time to run up to four plays, and it would have been able to stop the clock at least once more if they decided to run the ball on one of those plays. Instead, the offense shuffled to the line and eventually called a timeout with 17 seconds to play. That squashed the window down to three plays to run, while unnecessarily running off 18 seconds of game clock. As for the decision to go for the touchdown with six seconds remaining, I have no issue with the decision. The previous play, the Patriots took six seconds off the game clock on a play in which Brady stood tall in the pocket for several seconds. Point is, six seconds is more than enough time to run one play. The Patriots had enough time to take a quick-fire throw at the end zone, with two caveats for Brady to follow: no interception and no mental breakdown. Brady's intentional grounding penalty qualified as the latter, and the Patriots entered nearly worst-case-scenario zone. That being said, from this view, the call by Belichick to go for it was not incorrect."
 
Yates, is right out point with his description of the poor clock management at the end of the half.

Brady, McDaniels and BB were dreadful, those 3 points could have come in handy.

Picked-up pieces after first-half review - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

"10. It's already been a hot topic of conversation, and likely will continue to be in the coming days, so here's one scribe's assessment of the Patriots' clock management to close the first half. The Patriots began the drive at the 24-yard line with two timeouts and 40 seconds on the clock and opened it up with a pass to Wes Welker that took them to the 8-yard line. At that point, with 35 seconds remaining, they should have called a timeout. It would have afforded the team a goal-to-go situation with ample time to run up to four plays, and it would have been able to stop the clock at least once more if they decided to run the ball on one of those plays. Instead, the offense shuffled to the line and eventually called a timeout with 17 seconds to play. That squashed the window down to three plays to run, while unnecessarily running off 18 seconds of game clock. As for the decision to go for the touchdown with six seconds remaining, I have no issue with the decision. The previous play, the Patriots took six seconds off the game clock on a play in which Brady stood tall in the pocket for several seconds. Point is, six seconds is more than enough time to run one play. The Patriots had enough time to take a quick-fire throw at the end zone, with two caveats for Brady to follow: no interception and no mental breakdown. Brady's intentional grounding penalty qualified as the latter, and the Patriots entered nearly worst-case-scenario zone. That being said, from this view, the call by Belichick to go for it was not incorrect."

And i thought it was about 12 seconds...i said to myself losing three points there could come back to haunt them. Drew Brady really had things under control yesterday.:rolleyes:
 
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Itentional Grounding wasn't the problem, it was......

At the end of the first half, the intentional grounding wasn't the biggest problem on that drive, it was their clock management leading up to it.

Taking over at Seattle's 24 yard with two time outs, Brady hits Welker for 15 yards. TAKE THE TIME OUT IMMEDIATELY. They were in a huddle to spike the ball and kill the clock by why? Common convention says to use your time outs on long plays (when it will take longer for everyone to reset). The Pats did the worst thing they could do, they wasted time trying to get reset but then ultimately still used the time out anyway.

You only have 9 yards to go! (Barring a penalty) that is GUARANTEED to be the longest play of the drive. If you throw it underneath again, kill the clock then when everyone is already around the ball.

The play to Welker started at the 40 second mark and they didn't take the timeout until 19 seconds to go. They basically screwed themselves right there. From that point on it should have been 3 passes to the endzone.
 
Re: Itentional Grounding wasn't the problem, it was......

At the end of the first half, the intentional grounding wasn't the biggest problem on that drive, it was their clock management leading up to it.

Taking over at Seattle's 24 yard with two time outs, Brady hits Welker for 15 yards. TAKE THE TIME OUT IMMEDIATELY. They were in a huddle to spike the ball and kill the clock by why? Common convention says to use your time outs on long plays (when it will take longer for everyone to reset). The Pats did the worst thing they could do, they wasted time trying to get reset but then ultimately still used the time out anyway.

You only have 9 yards to go! (Barring a penalty) that is GUARANTEED to be the longest play of the drive. If you throw it underneath again, kill the clock then when everyone is already around the ball.

The play to Welker started at the 40 second mark and they didn't take the timeout until 19 seconds to go. They basically screwed themselves right there. From that point on it should have been 3 passes to the endzone.

This is why they needed to settle down and just kick a field goal IMO. Salvage the situation.

We gave the SwampPigeons a W.:(
 
Hard to argue with this mediot here......BB should have TAKEN A TO immediately after the WW catch. Then, he should have taken the points with little time left on the clock and just TAKE THE DAmmed points that were a gift in the first place!!!! Now, Brady by now should know NOT to throw the ball straight down the middle of the field where there is NO eligible receiver after last year's debacle.

Yates, is right out point with his description of the poor clock management at the end of the half.

Brady, McDaniels and BB were dreadful, those 3 points could have come in handy.

Picked-up pieces after first-half review - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

"10. It's already been a hot topic of conversation, and likely will continue to be in the coming days, so here's one scribe's assessment of the Patriots' clock management to close the first half. The Patriots began the drive at the 24-yard line with two timeouts and 40 seconds on the clock and opened it up with a pass to Wes Welker that took them to the 8-yard line. At that point, with 35 seconds remaining, they should have called a timeout. It would have afforded the team a goal-to-go situation with ample time to run up to four plays, and it would have been able to stop the clock at least once more if they decided to run the ball on one of those plays. Instead, the offense shuffled to the line and eventually called a timeout with 17 seconds to play. That squashed the window down to three plays to run, while unnecessarily running off 18 seconds of game clock. As for the decision to go for the touchdown with six seconds remaining, I have no issue with the decision. The previous play, the Patriots took six seconds off the game clock on a play in which Brady stood tall in the pocket for several seconds. Point is, six seconds is more than enough time to run one play. The Patriots had enough time to take a quick-fire throw at the end zone, with two caveats for Brady to follow: no interception and no mental breakdown. Brady's intentional grounding penalty qualified as the latter, and the Patriots entered nearly worst-case-scenario zone. That being said, from this view, the call by Belichick to go for it was not incorrect."
 
We were all screaming at the TV. Call the Timeout!! Very disheartening loss. Lucky that the rest of the division is terrible. The Pats can still win the division get a home playoff game and then who knows.

A decent defense by December would be nice.
 
Did anyone have to eat their words after criticizing Romo and that mickey mouse organization for their management at the end of the game which caused their kicker to take a much longer FG, which he missed? I think my exact words were "A BB coached team would never f&ck this up". Well three hours later, I was proven wrong.

Correction: at least the cowboys managed a FG attempt, which the Pats did not.
 
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Re: Itentional Grounding wasn't the problem, it was......

At the end of the first half, the intentional grounding wasn't the biggest problem on that drive, it was their clock management leading up to it.

Taking over at Seattle's 24 yard with two time outs, Brady hits Welker for 15 yards. TAKE THE TIME OUT IMMEDIATELY.

Yes yes yes yes.
 
I watched that drive in disbelief, as I never remember a game where the clock management was so poor..

Never remember such a succession of brainfarts in any Patriots Drive..
 
i often get the feeling that belichick doesnt quite know how timeouts work.

you get 3 per half...not 3 total. we had plenty of time...and then we had none.
 
That was extremely frustrating. The team should know better.

I also thought the management at the end of the AZ game was awful. Let's just hope they learn from these.
 
I blame Brady for this one. Belichick had to run down the sidelines to call the time out because Brady didn't. Brady should have known right away to call the time out. With the ball that deep in the red zone, there was no ref within 20-30 yards of the Patriots bench. So calling the timeout was on Brady to call and he didn't.
 
I blame Brady for this one. Belichick had to run down the sidelines to call the time out because Brady didn't. Brady should have known right away to call the time out. With the ball that deep in the red zone, there was no ref within 20-30 yards of the Patriots bench. So calling the timeout was on Brady to call and he didn't.

That's the way i saw it too...we could have taken a couple shots in the EZ with time left...not one of Brady's better moments.
 
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