We are all hypocrites

[Ifleninwasawizard]

We basically have to look at it this way. Chung and Gregory were supposed to be our starters and Wilson and Ebner our developmental guys. That makes a lot of sense going into the season, and if games like this happen were both of our starters go out then we just have to accept that you can't plan for everything.

Another thing we have to consider is that the up and down play of Dennard was a huge part of this game. He has made some pretty good plays and messed up as well. The thing is, if he is ever going to take the starting job from Arrington he is going to need playing time. This contributed to the loss today, but it helps us going forward.

This D is a work in progress. Today was just a tough growing pain.

 

[blackglass3]

LOL.

No dude.

We are not a great football team. Great football teams don't lose the way we did against Seattle and Arizona.

We have a very good offense and a below average defense.

Below average is being generous. The front 7 are very good. The secondary is so bad they don't deserve to cash their paychecks.

 

[Creative Username]

No problem. But 2004 was a LONG time ago. The Randall Gay/Earthwind Moreland/Troy Brown secondaries aren't cutting it anymore, which is why there are 2 Lombardi's sitting at MetLife Stadium right now.

Spare me the "Super Bowl every 2 years" crap. That stat is as useless as all the other ones people trot out there. Every season is it's own entity, except for the fact that when the game is on the line our offense or our defense (or like today...both) curl up in the fetal position and let the other team have their way.

So you don't trust Belichick's methods anymore, because he has to go out and prove it to you every year? Then the same happens with Brady?

Okay... Then just wait until this "entity" proves that the Patriots can still win a Superbowl.

 

[ausbacker]

We basically have to look at it this way. Chung and Gregory were supposed to be our starters and Wilson and Ebner our developmental guys. That makes a lot of sense going into the season, and if games like this happen were both of our starters go out then we just have to accept that you can't plan for everything.

Another thing we have to consider is that the up and down play of Dennard was a huge part of this game. He has made some pretty good plays and messed up as well. The thing is, if he is ever going to take the starting job from Arrington he is going to need playing time. This contributed to the loss today, but it helps us going forward.

This D is a work in progress. Today was just a tough growing pain.

At some point, the Patriots are going to have to spend some money on bringing in quality DB's. The current strategy has not worked for some years.

We've deluded ourselves that the greatness of Tom Brady means we can do it with a collection of JAGS on D. This simply isn't the case.

 

[hellolin]

Everyone that defends this team for losing by one point is failing to miss the much larger picture. The secondary is complete crap and the "one point" garbage must be the same thing all of Belichick's yes men are feeding him.

exactly, can't be like the jets fans and make up "Moral vicotries" every single week! Last season we can at least feast on other team's mistakes. This season we can only do that to Payton Manning so far....

 

[kpreh]

LOL.

No dude.

We are not a great football team. Great football teams don't lose the way we did against Seattle and Arizona.

We have a very good offense and a below average defense.

That " good offense ' you speak of left some needed points on the field ---That defense ended the game with three rookies back in coverage--

Not one part of this team deserved to win

 

[IcyPatriot]

Linda the Pats Fan is not a hypocrite.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

LOL.

No dude.

We are not a great football team. Great football teams don't lose the way we did against Seattle and Arizona.

We have a very good offense and a below average defense.

What a load of crap. All teams lose the way we did. Unless you live in a fantasy land where 9-7 and 10-6 teams don't often win it all...

 

[Boomer B]

Like Bill Parcells said, you are what your record says you are.

The Pats are a .500 team right now, but still have a great shot at taking the division. They're quickly pissing away a chance at home field in the playoffs though.

3 things that we need to correct in my opinion:

1) the secondary
2) better late game play calling by both the D and O
3) get friggin Gronk involved, especially in the red zone

 

[blackglass3]

What a load of crap. All teams lose the way we did. Unless you live in a fantasy land where 9-7 and 10-6 teams don't often win it all...

Does any team blow games as consistently as we do? I doubt it.

 

[condon84]

What a load of crap. All teams lose the way we did. Unless you live in a fantasy land where 9-7 and 10-6 teams don't often win it all...

We are not a great team at the moment. If you think we are, then you're not very smart.

 

[crowell33]

And they still only lost by ONE POINT. The sky is not falling.

This team has not won a Superbowl in 8 years. They are now 3-3 against the NFL's easiest schedule. It ain't good.

 

[Haley]

This D is a work in progress. Today was just a tough growing pain.

I'm calling BS on this.

This secondary has been a work in progress for at least 3 years and has shown nothing but regression. I'm tired of making excuses for the Secondary.

It is now to the point where it is no longer a player at fault here. This is clearly the coaching that is defective. Across the board regression only happens from poor coaching.

 

[blackglass3]

So you don't trust Belichick's methods anymore, because he has to go out and prove it to you every year? Then the same happens with Brady?

Okay... Then just wait until this "entity" proves that the Patriots can still win a Superbowl.

That's fine, keep waiting with your head in the sand. I said it after the Super Bowl and I will (paraphrase) it again: There is something lodged in the locker room that when any game gets close, the team falls apart. They can't handle adversity.

 

[Creative Username]

Does any team blow games as consistently as we do? I doubt it.

Do the REFS blow games as consistently as other teams do.
Seriously. The Justin Tucker field goal was no good.
Gronk wasn't holding in the Arizona game. Woodhead's TD should have been good.
The intentional grounding at the end of the first half shouldn't have been called.
All throughout ALL of these games the opponents' OLines have been holding and not called.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

At some point, the Patriots are going to have to spend some money on bringing in quality DB's. The current strategy has not worked for some years.

We've deluded ourselves that the greatness of Tom Brady means we can do it with a collection of JAGS on D. This simply isn't the case.

That would be Bill and not us perpetuating the delusion and he seems to be down to the secondary. The front 7 are beyond competitive. It's the DB's who remain the achilles heel in his grand defensive plan. And some of that may be exacerbated by the way he is coaching them to play. Even the ones who show promise early tend to get worn down by the process.

 

[condon84]

Do the REFS blow games as consistently as other teams do.
Seriously. The Justin Tucker field goal was no good.
Gronk wasn't holding in the Arizona game. Woodhead's TD should have been good.
The intentional grounding at the end of the first half shouldn't have been called.
All throughout ALL of these games the opponents' OLines have been holding and not called.

Bad calls are part of the game. Everyone gets them at some point during the game.

It's lame and pathetic to blame the refs for the awful situational football we played against Arizona and now against Seattle.

 

[IndianPat]

Some are hyprocrites and some are not. The loss is okay, but the way they lost is not okay. When we want a first down, the other defense steps up and stops us (again and again the last two games). Our defense? They could barely protect a 4 score lead last week and squander a 2 score lead this week. The last TD by Seattle convinced me that coaching deficiency may have quite a bit to do with our defensive problems. On that play, Seattle sends out two receivers and we play zone? The DB's are standing around having passed on the receivers to the safeties, who then proceed to easily beat them. Dont tell me that they thought a running play was coming.
Talking about coaching deficiencies: Hey McDaniels - what's with a game plan calling for 58 throws by Brady?

 

[MoLewisrocks]

This team has not won a Superbowl in 8 years. They are now 3-3 against the NFL's easiest schedule. It ain't good.

There are teams that have never won one, or even been to one.

 

[Boomer B]

Do the REFS blow games as consistently as other teams do.
Seriously. The Justin Tucker field goal was no good.
Gronk wasn't holding in the Arizona game. Woodhead's TD should have been good.
The intentional grounding at the end of the first half shouldn't have been called.
All throughout ALL of these games the opponents' OLines have been holding and not called.

Don't act like a 7 yr old girl. There's bad calls in every game. No "refs screwed us" B.S. We are 3-3 'cause our O can't close out games and our D can't hold a lead.