Key 2011 Players that the Patriots let walk

[1%er]

Andre Carter (Oak) - N/A
Mark Anderson (Buf) - 12tckl 1sck
Green-Ellis (Cinn)- 300yds, 3.3ypc, 2tds

I know its early but its looking like BB made great decisions to move on when he did.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Green-Ellis (Cinn)- 300yds, 3.3ypc, 2tds

I know its early but its looking like BB made great decisions to move on when he did.

It's Cincy, so your expectations have to be lowered. And, not to knock on BJGE because you have to love the kid, but he's had 2 fumbles as well.

 

[PatriotReign]

It's Cincy, so your expectations have to be lowered. And, not to knock on BJGE because you have to love the kid, but he's had 2 fumbles as well.

He's actually put the ball on the ground three times this season.

 

[Gumby]

Andre Carter (Oak) - N/A
Mark Anderson (Buf) - 12tckl 1sck injured
Green-Ellis (Cinn)- 300yds, 3.3ypc, 2tds 3 fumbles

I know its early but its looking like BB made great decisions to move on when he did.

corrected that for you.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Still too early..lets looks at it at the end of the year

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Its pretty dumb to say this early that these were good moves.

If a year down the line they still aren't producing then yeah.....and another thing is how do you know how they would have performed on THIS team this year?.....its impossible to say.

 

[Dodie]

Im haunted by Chad Jackson in this #85 jersey, Lloyd could've pick a different number lol

Anyway, I feel bad for BJGE, yeah he had 3 fumbles already and I'm one of his fan. I thought we gonna miss him when Ridley start fumbling the balls, but our RB was the big surprise this season, they're making us forget about Hernandez

 

[DarrylS]

How many times have we seen players excel in our system, only to become mediocre in another??...

This coaching staff plays to these guys strengths, while others look to these guys to be something different then they really are... they were more valuable as Patriots than they are to other teams.

 

[livinginthe past]

Too early to say Belichick made the right call?

I know that if these moves had worked out great for their new teams it wouldn't be 'too early' to call Belichick ' too clever for his own good' or Kraft 'too cheap'.

I think the Ridley vs Green-Ellis comparison bears note.

 

[borg]

Its pretty dumb to say this early that these were good moves.

If a year down the line they still aren't producing then yeah.....and another thing is how do you know how they would have performed on THIS team this year?.....its impossible to say.

For 2011,

BenJarvus Green-Ellis 181 carry 667 yds 3.7yds/carry 11 TDs
Stevan Ridley 87 441 5.1 1
Danny Woodhead 77 351 4.6 1
Shane Vereen 15 57 3.8 1
Kevin Faulk 17 57 3.4 0

This year

Ridley 102 490 4.8 4
Bolden 37 206 5.6 2
Woodhead 36 119 3.3 1
Vereen 2 1 .5 1

This year projected

Ridley 326 1568 4.8 12
Bolden 118 659 5.6 6
Woodhead 115 380 3.3 3
Vereen 6 2 .5 3

2012 Projection total
565 carries 2609 yds 4.6 yds/carry 24 TDs

2011 combined totals
377 carries 1573 yds 4.2 yds/carry 14 TDs

After 5 games in 2012
177 carries 816 yds 4.6 yds/carry 8 TDs

RB Salary 2011 (total contract/years=averaged payout)

BJGE $1.8 mill
Ridley $730K
Woodhead $700k
Vereen $865k

Total $4.095 mill

RB Salary in 2012

Ridley $730k
Woodhead $700k
Vereen $865k
Bolden $487k

Total $2.782 mill

2012 BJGE with Cinn. $3 mill (averaged)

2012 BJGE stats
91 300 3.3 2

2012 Projected BJGE stats
291 960 3.3 6

Conclusion: Projecting 2600 yds and 24 TDs at a cost of $2.7 mill is likely the best value in the NFL. The Pats project to surpass 2011 run production by their 10th game. Ridley should fly past BJGE projection by game #10 as well. BB and company have hit a grand slam

 

[BradyManny]

Some validation for those of us who maintained Benny was just slightly above a JAG. A loveable, dependable JAG, nonetheless.

I hate to say it, but had Ridley asserted himself last season and avoided the fumbles, I bet he would've been the difference maker in the playoffs/Super Bowl. He's approximately a million times better at making people miss and getting yards after contact than BJGE.

 

[patchick]

Its pretty dumb to say this early that these were good moves.

If a year down the line they still aren't producing then yeah.....and another thing is how do you know how they would have performed on THIS team this year?.....its impossible to say.

Personally, I think it was late enough day 1 to say that they were smart to stay away from the 4 years, $20 million ($8 million guaranteed) the Bills gave Mark Anderson.

Anderson has shown repeatedly throughout his career that he's a very effective situational rusher, and much less effective as an every-down DE. The Patriots found MUCH better uses for that money, IMO.

 

[borg]

Personally, I think it was late enough day 1 to say that they were smart to stay away from the 4 years, $20 million ($8 million guaranteed) the Bills gave Mark Anderson.

Anderson has shown repeatedly throughout his career that he's a very effective situational rusher, and much less effective as an every-down DE. The Patriots found MUCH better uses for that money, IMO.

The Pats are still on the hook for $2 mill of the Tully Banta-Cain resigning.....and using this failed experiment as a lesson, I suspect the Pats didn't want to travel down a similar road with Anderson.....12 tackles, 1 sack thru five games (starting 4) this year vs Cunningham who has given the team 5 tackles 1 sack at about 20% the cost.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

The added bonus is that the three of them might bring some extra (comp) draft picks next year. I'nm guessing the Lloyd signing will cancel at least one of them out, but maybe 2 extra picks!

 

[RobertWeathers]

If Carter hadn't gotten hurt, he would be on this team (I think )

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

Andre Carter (Oak) - N/A
Mark Anderson (Buf) - 12tckl 1sck
Green-Ellis (Cinn)- 300yds, 3.3ypc, 2tds

I know its early but its looking like BB made great decisions to move on when he did.

you had to know that with lawfirm, more and more tv color people were bringing up his lack of fumbles. Invariably, once an announcer says something, the opposite usually happens......

 

[MrNathanDrake]

Andre Carter (Oak) - N/A
Mark Anderson (Buf) - 12tckl 1sck
Green-Ellis (Cinn)- 300yds, 3.3ypc, 2tds

I know its early but its looking like BB made great decisions to move on when he did.

Green-Ellis was a no brainer considering we just got Ridley and Vereen as high picks the year before.

Ridley showed enough last year to make most people think he could carry the load.

Plus we still have Woodhead too.



Andre Carter was due to injuries. If he were healthy still, we would have been crazy to let him walk.

 

[captain stone]

If Carter hadn't gotten hurt, he would be on this team (I think )

And I'd still rather have had Carter & Jabaar Gaffney than Justin Francis (who would've made a great PS
addition had he cleared waivers) & Michael HooHooHaHa.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

The added bonus is that the three of them might bring some extra (comp) draft picks next year. I'nm guessing the Lloyd signing will cancel at least one of them out, but maybe 2 extra picks!

You don't get comp picks for players such as Carter that nobody else signs during the offseason (and not even all of them, either). BJGE, yes, and Anderson, yes—assuming the Pats didn't offset them with other signings (the good news is that many of the Pats' offseason signings, such as Gaffney, don't count against them, since they didn't make the 53).

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Im haunted by Chad Jackson in this #85 jersey, Lloyd could've pick a different number lol

Wrong Chad.