Why isn't Gillette Stadium as loud as other stadiums

[Tunescribe]

My question is, Steve Burton brought it up on Patriots All Access in his piece with Perrillo and Reiss.

He has access to Bob Kraft. Why is he wasting everyone's time asking Perrillo and Reiss?

Why the hell doesn't anyone put Kraft up to that question??????

Why doesn't the media grow a pair and ask the guy who made the decision and STILL doesn't spend a few million to at least put up some kind of noise wall around the end zones?

Unless they want to add another 12k seats or so, I think it's a lost cause to attempt correcting things acoustically. The unique design features that the Krafts touted early on -- the four open "skylights" and the open/landscaped north end zone -- would have to be the first to go.

 

[shmessy]

Unless they want to add another 12k seats or so, I think it's a lost cause to attempt correcting things acoustically. The unique design features that the Krafts touted early on -- the four open "skylights" and the open/landscaped north end zone -- would have to be the first to go.

How soon can the equipment get onsite to start the project? Not soon enough, I say.

 

[PATS16N0]

I asked this earlier but I guess it was over looked. If Gillette stadium is so tame and so quiet, why is home field advantage such a great advantage for the Patriots?

 

[blackglass3]

I am all for the one end of the stadium staying how it is. I like the bridge/lighthouse combo (even though the lighthouse still looks ridiculous after all these years...for the love of God make it looks like an actual lighthouse and not some half built thing) and the view into the New England beauty. But please close the other end in already. Finish the 300 section so they connect on that end. It would probably take a season, but I imagine they could find somewhere local to play for a year (BC maybe? or get really crazy and play a season in Harvard's stadium) and get this renovation completed. It can't possibly be too hard to take care of.

 

[Off The Grid]

The implication that we Yankees ~ definition: "natives of New EngLand" ~ are spoiled and lack Passion is both hilarious and offensive: By the most unlikely Great Fortune ~ I haven't been able to afford to go to many Games ~ my Brother and I scored Tickets to see the RedSox on September 1st, 2007...the day, as it turned out, that young Clay Buchholz threw that exquisite No Hitter.

And my GOD...

The euphoric ROAR that engulfed Fenway when he got that last out...is beyond my capacity to describe. It was like the Cacophony was simply too much for the worldly constraints of actual noise...and something like a roar above the roar exploded above all our heads...That sounds whacked, I know, but anyone who was there would confirm it, I promise you.

It was...truly...awesome.

 

[PP2]

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The issue I have is people on here basically have said that sometimes there isn't much noise...but Gillette is quite open so it's a good excuse to not put in the extra effort.

You have 16 games (up to 19/20 if you're lucky enough) to cheer for. BIG DEAL. Five frigging months of your life to 'put out' for the team you love. Non-season ticket holders maybe not even that much.

I watch every home game my local soccer team has and I know a lot of fans who attend every away game too. That's 46 league games that spans nine months. That doesn't include cup games of which you play at least three and more if you progress on in the competition...try shouting your arse off at every one of those game which, FYI, we do...and it's not like they don't lose their voices AND our local stadium which seats 11, 000 has an open end too.....

So quit moaning.

11,000? That's a much smaller number of fans, and I'm willing to bet that the fans are right on the edge of the field. And since this is not the premiere league I'm sure the "stadium" isn't large, and packs those fans in really tight.

 

[pherein]

Yea I know you're going to say that its because we're used to winning but if i could get season tickets i'd scream my ass off until i could barely speak.

ITs because BB wills their to be quit while he paints his masterpiece creating a force bubble in which all the players within only hear Brahms and Mozart. Everyone knows that.

 

[Jackson 2]

I'm not a season ticket holder (I was in the early seventies), so I don't feel comfortable criticizing the current ones. However, the crowd noise in Baltimore, I felt was an enormous plus for the Ravens and I honestly believe the replacement refs were scared for their lives, particularly late in the game and the calls reflected that fear.

 

[Observer]

Its the stadium, not the crowd. The sound from the upper levels evaporates. The actual loudness on the field is only contributed by the lower level. Fans do seem to leave early in lopsided games though, which is annoying.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I asked this earlier but I guess it was over looked. If Gillette stadium is so tame and so quiet, why is home field advantage such a great advantage for the Patriots?

Home field doesn't always have to do with noise..a lot of other factors go into home field advantage and the pats have it

 

[Mark Morse]

I agree the stdium design is a mjor contributor ... but at the Home Opener, the "fans" in my row were obviously not season ticket holders! They were like Jack In The Box ... up and down going to get beer, pretzels, popcorn McDonalds ... it was rediculous.

We also charge the highest ticket prices in the league .... how many season ticket holders are selling their tickets to try and recoup some of their outlay.

The hardcore, blue collar fans are being priced out from attending games.

I'm older and can now afford to go to games. I yell and scream, but I can't stand throughout the whole game. These are the contributing practices.

 

[PP2]

Say it as many times as you want. There's more than just those two stadiums. Your excuse is they don't want to put in the extra effort, fine now own it. I'm not the one measuring fan loyalty out of this, I'm simply calling BS on the we're just as loud as everybody else but no one knows about it because we're playing in the Great Plains.

Simple question: have you ever been to Gillette?

 

[PP2]

I asked this earlier but I guess it was over looked. If Gillette stadium is so tame and so quiet, why is home field advantage such a great advantage for the Patriots?

Has to do something with a thing called 'talent.' That's my guess.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Simple question: have you ever been to Gillette?

defiantly not

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Simple question: have you ever been to Gillette?

Many times.

 

[pdangle]

I asked this earlier but I guess it was over looked. If Gillette stadium is so tame and so quiet, why is home field advantage such a great advantage for the Patriots?

Good point, but home field advantage is more than just crowd noise. Travel, unfamiliarity with stadium, referee calls, etc., are all part of it, among many other factors. No one's really been able to find that one BIG thing. But crowd noise is also part of it for sure.

So ask yourself this, when was the last time crowd noise forced an opponent to call a time out or caused a false start at Gillette? Like it does routinely in Seattle? Not for a lonnnnnggg time, and if I missed a few, it's not often that's for sure.

Yes we've been good at home. Every team is. But I sometimes wonder how much better we could be at home if we had a stadium built for noise like that. If we did, I guarantee we would have a crowd as rowdy like that. And before you say big deal, Seattle's home field (the most extreme noise stadium I use for an example, I agree) is worth at least another half -point to one-and-a-half points OVER the typical home field a game. Not much you say? This is about a %3 to 7% better chance of winning each and every home game roughly. Imagine that edge in our pocket in close games. Unfortunately, these two factors feed off each other. And we dont have the stadium built for noise. Which is why I assume Pats fans don't scream more. Why bother? It'll just get bounced out past the lighthouse in a whisp of wind. But I don't care, we got a new stadium. Maybe if the State had ponied a bit more (any?) cash back then, we would.

I'm also surprised more new stadiums owners don't require a design study to maximize these effects as they go up. It seems it would be relatively easy. All you need to be is a better noise focusing venue or less comfortable locker room, closer home coaching side lines, or whatever, than the other stadiums who obviously don't really care about it.

 

[Avenger]

Maybe the same design that makes it not as noisy gives home field advantage by knowing the wind pattern better than opposing teams?

 

[PP2]

Many times.

The way you talk, I find that hard to believe.

 

[PP2]

when the crushed the jets 45-3 or whatever it was

How often does that happen? This just illustrates my point.

 

[Tunescribe]

Simple question: have you ever been to Gillette?

You need to specify if he's been INSIDE Gillette during a regular-season game.