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LOL retweeted by the NFL. Was soon deleted.
 
The games too fast for these guys.
 
The missed OPI is bad, but that is a simultaneous catch. If you see the opposite angle, you will see that Tate had the ball as well.
I am not trolling, I am not trying to make anybody more angry. This is what I see. I have the extended video that I am posting there. Watch for the reverse angle shot.
Golden Tate Kinda Catches Game Winning Touchdown Packers Vs Seahawks 9/24/2012 - YouTube
13mins of the incident

I've watched it many, many, many, many, many times and it still looks like an INT. Did you see Tate take is and off the ball while Jennings maintained control? That pretty much seals it.
 
That does not look as bad as I thought it was. Who knows what the real refs would have called?
Are replacement refs also in the replay booth on scoring plays as well? I thought those were professionals who knew the rules. This is just not on the replacement refs and I don't see why the NFL cannot claim the replacement refs again did a fantastic job.

tHE OFFICIALS IN THE BOOTH ARE ALSO REPLACEMENTS, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
 
I've watched it many, many, many, many, many times and it still looks like an INT. Did you see Tate take is and off the ball while Jennings maintained control? That pretty much seals it.

Flagrant offensive pass interference, too. Its one thing to have a lot of contact when players are all jumping for the ball, but a deliberate two handed push in the back is a penalty.
 
It's not a simultaneous catch.

1.) Jennings clearly had it first and Tate is going through and around Jennings

2.) Tate takes his hand off the ball


But, I do think it's brave of you to come here and discuss this, Mr. Goodell.

Item 5: Simultaneous Catch.If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players
retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an
opponent subsequently gains joint control
I don't see anywhere in the video that shows that Jennings clearly had it first. Tates hands was in between Jennings hands at all times, so his hands was on the ball, both players retained the ball.
 
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I don't see anywhere in the video that shows that Jennings clearly had it first. Tates hands was in between Jennings hands at all times, so his hands was on the ball, both players retained the ball.

Jennings had posession first with both hands on the ball, Tate actually took his hand off the ball to get a better grip, never mind the PI before which they almost never call on a hail mary, just looks bad.
 
Tate's right hand did not get onto the ball until after it was already in Jennings' posession.

This is why on D you KNOCK IT DOWN rather than CATCH IT when you are in traffic. A shared posession is a TD, but I don't think this meets the definition.

titans knocked it down....that didnt work
 
I don't see anywhere in the video that shows that Jennings clearly had it first. Tates hands was in between Jennings hands at all times, so his hands was on the ball, both players retained the ball.

Jennings clearly catches the ball and is instantly cradling it with both arms, Tate at best has a hand in there that is TOUCHING the ball, and exerting no control over the ball at all. His second hand never has any sustained contact with the ball.
 
Jennings clearly catches the ball and is instantly cradling it with both arms, Tate at best has a hand in there that is TOUCHING the ball, and exerting no control over the ball at all. His second hand never has any sustained contact with the ball.

Then it becomes a semantics here. The rule does not say both arms are needed for a catch. Who is to say Tate cannot control the ball with one hand on the ball?
I now sound like I am arguing and this is the last thing I want to do right now.
The last thing I am saying on this is that, I can understand why this call went the way it went and there is no evidence that the real refs would have done any differently. Yes they are better than these guys.
 
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hahaha link to a video of this? this is hilarious, I know the replacement refs weren't trying to be funny but this refs own haha

anyway, that was an OPI on Tate and clearly Jennings had it intercepted, wk 2 it was holding on Gronk, then w3 bunch of phantom calls, seems to me these refs are favoring the home team and we're on the road again this wk4 :beatingcoming:
 
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I thought it was the correct call . . . the defender can not be deemed to have legal possession of the ball until he comes down with two feet on the ground (remember people one can not have deemed to have possession of the ball unless you get at least two feet down, control is not relevant) . . .

the problem is that by the time the defender had his second foot hit the ground it is unclear if he had sole possession of the ball . . . when the ref cam over and saw both had possession of the ball it is simple case of joint possession . . .

the issue, altho very sad and may seem cruel to the packers, is a simple case of joint possession and tie, if you will, goes to the offense . . .

unless the packers can show clear proof of sole possession by the defender at the time his second foot hit the ground they loose . . .

we can assume all we want but we need clear proof of sole possession . . . the problem is short of that, the next clear data point on who has possession of the bal is when the refs are standing directly over the two players, saw joint possession, deemed joint possession, thus rule possession goes to offense, and hence the TD . . .

it is really very simple . . . we need to look at it step by step and walk through it and only use clear and convincing evidence which was in view of the refs and make our determination . . .

problem is there was no possession at the top of the leap as his feet was off the ground, we then have two players coming together, Tate reaching in and the next clear data point both have possession . . .

it may not seem fair to some, but the NFl is alll about what we see and not what we assume or want to see . . . its what we see clearly and then we must peace together the facts and make a rule and, in this case, not rule on possession too early and only at the point that we can cleary and that is only at the moment that the refs are stadning over the players . . .
 
I just KNEW she'd be in a pic somewhere....
 

nice pic but that photograph was take a full three seconds after they had joint possession and thuse possesion goes ot offense, combine with being in the endzone makes it a TD and the play is dead . . . and everything after that, including this picture is completely irrelevant . . .

you will see from the video on NFL.com, that this pic is a full three seconds after they both are on the ground fighting for the ball . . .

NFL Game Center: Green Bay Packers at Seattle Seahawks - 2012 Week 3
 
I thought it was the correct call . . . the defender can not be deemed to have legal possession of the ball until he comes down with two feet on the ground (remember people one can not have deemed to have possession of the ball unless you get at least two feet down, control is not relevant) . . .

Or almost any other part of his body (e.g., one knee = two feet).
 
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