What would you do now if you were a regular ref

[thenepatsrule]

I for one would double the monetary demands immediately and also put in a new condition that Goodell run naked through each stadium in the NFL atleast once before the season is over during the HALF TIME.............

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

laugh my ass off...they have all the leverage now..ask for more $$...why not

 

[JJDChE]

Seeing that the refs make an insane amount of money for the time they put in and most of them have full-time jobs outside, my guess is I would be popping one of the bottles of Dom that I just brought up from my wine cellar.

 

[Haley]

Open a beer?

 

[thenepatsrule]

Open a beer?

with a HAREM full of strippers and send the bill to ROGER GOODELL

 

[ausbacker]

The amount of people discussing the NFL and the replacement officials worldwide must be at Super Bowl exposure levels. I, for one, believe this scenario is a joke but people are talking about it and at great lengths.

The replacement officials is the NFL's reality comedy show.

 

[glm]

Masturbate to what I just watched.

 

[Joker]

Seeing that the refs make an insane amount of money for the time they put in and most of them have full-time jobs outside, my guess is I would be popping one of the bottles of Dom that I just brought up from my wine cellar.

Insane amount of money???...Huh????????????????????

How Much Does an NFL Referee Make?
The average salary that an NFL referee earns per year nests between the sums of $25,000 and $70,000. This is not as much as the referees for others like the NHL

and NBA make. The umpires in Major League Baseball make around $141,000 annually. The NBA referees make around $128,000 annually and the NHL officials earn around $139,000 annually. By looking at these sums, individuals will see that the NFL referees are at the bottom of the charts when it comes to the amount of money they earn. However, one has to consider the fact that an NFL referee works one game a week, while referees in the other sports work multiple games per week. The job of NFL referee required flexibility and go through training before match.

In contrast....

As for the type of salary NFL rookies can expect to earn under their contracts, Slough noted that rookies receive “minimum salaries under the CBA.” This season, the minimum salary is $390,000.00. In 2013, this year’s rookies can expect to earn $480,000.00 in salary. In 2014, they’ll earn $570,000.00 in salary.

You have a unique perspective that I, personally,cannot agree with...but you're welcome to think that ref salaries are "insane!!!"....to me that's like going to a steak house and spending 100 bucks on a 2 pound porterhouse and ragging all meal long about MickeyD's raising their Big Mac price by 25 cents.

 

[NSPF]

laugh my ass off, triple my demands.

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

I think the main sticking point is evaluation not money, except pension. I think the NFL wants to avoid having MLB like officials -- guys who are practically untouchable and get lazy.

I think the NFL is actually right on on this. Rules that promote accountability are good. Having the refs have this much leveage is not great. The problem is the NFL tried to crush the refs by suggesting that anyone can do it. That was an all in move and they lost.

What the NFL could have done is say look, this is going to be rough. Fans, we are sorry, but we need to think longterm and protect the integrity of the game. Stick with us, support these guys and we will get through it, and when the regular guys are back they will be leaner, meaner, more accountable and better.

But they didn't do that and now they are screwed.

 

[alamo]

Insane amount of money???...Huh????????????????????

How Much Does an NFL Referee Make?
The average salary that an NFL referee earns per year nests between the sums of $25,000 and $70,000. This is not as much as the referees for others like the NHL and NBA make.

Huh? indeed...

“Game officials on average earned almost $150,000 in 2011. Prior to the start of the lockout, we proposed a 7-year deal that would have increased average game official’s compensation more than 7 percent to just over $161,000 in 2012, and further increase that average to more than $189,000 by 2018. In addition, we have offered a generous defined contribution retirement plan, with average contributions of $16,500 in 2012, increasing to more than $22,300 per game official by 2018. Officials also receive numerous other benefits, including severance equal to one year’s game fees and postseason bonus, a period of guaranteed ‘time off’ from the end of the season through mid-May of each year, first-class air travel, and
partial reimbursement for medical insurance for officials who do not have insurance through their other jobs.”
Pash lockout memo reads like a press release | ProFootballTalk

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Before they sign a new deal...have each referee make Goodell be thier B!tch for 1 week

 

[cmasspatsfan]

I actually was on the side of th NFL and thought the refs were asking for a bit too much, instead of some sort of compromise the NFL is going to be forced to give up way more than they would have.

 

[Joker]

Huh? indeed...

“Game officials on average earned almost $150,000 in 2011. Prior to the start of the lockout, we proposed a 7-year deal that would have increased average game official’s compensation more than 7 percent to just over $161,000 in 2012, and further increase that average to more than $189,000 by 2018. In addition, we have offered a generous defined contribution retirement plan, with average contributions of $16,500 in 2012, increasing to more than $22,300 per game official by 2018. Officials also receive numerous other benefits, including severance equal to one year’s game fees and postseason bonus, a period of guaranteed ‘time off’ from the end of the season through mid-May of each year, first-class air travel, and
partial reimbursement for medical insurance for officials who do not have insurance through their other jobs.”
Pash lockout memo reads like a press release | ProFootballTalk

are you insinuating I made those figures up?

 

[Joker]

you do realize you made a fundamental misinterpretation of Pash's statement, don't you?? Probably why you are not responding....

 

[jnug]

I think the sticking points are pension and evaluation with evaluation the bigger of the two.

While all points that are negotiating points are sticking points...that is just the way labor negotiations are, I think the refs are more concerned about how evaluation is administered. I think they will roll on the issue of evaluation itself if they can gain some concessions that will make them feel confident that evaluation does not become a means to hold a velvet hammer over their heads on issues that really have nothing to do with their performance as officials.

The league for its part has decided to play hardball. Frankly I have some understanding for their position as well. Often sports labor negotiations handled badly have long term ramifications with little opportunity to redress wrongs. Look at the virtually untouchable MLB umps. Look at what guaranteed contracts in MLB have done to a team's ability to maintain some level of control over the players it has under contract.

On the other hand, the way the NFL CBA has been structured is part and parcel of the success of the NFL and the skyrocketing values of NFL franchises.

So both sides have their points and both sides have their reasons and justifications for their actions.

Where things go awry in labor relations and negotiations is where neither side can get to the issues that are really at the heart of the matter and dig their heels in so hard that each side losses faith in the other's ability or willingness to negotiate in good faith. Unfortunately, I think that is where things have gotten with the NFL and the refs and also with the NHL and the players.

In both cases I think the reasons for the impasses are the same. the leagues in both cases, came out adopting such extreme and hard lines that they tainted the negotiations from the start. Unfortunately when you do that, the other side ends up feeling like the middle position from where you are starting is not close to acceptable and you just cannot make any progress toward a negotiated middle of the road.

 

[alamo]

are you insinuating I made those figures up?

you do realize you made a fundamental misinterpretation of Pash's statement, don't you?? Probably why you are not responding....

Remarkably enough, I was not responding because I had gone to bed. Didn't see this until just now. And of course I didn't think you made it up, but since you gave no source I am not sure I believe those figures, especially since I have never heard of "an average nesting between" two amounts.

And I don't think I have misinterpreted Pash's statement, but I do wonder if it covers the head refs only (16 or so guys) rather than everyone. If that's the case, and your figures apply to all officials, then comparing salaries to NBA etc. is hardly fair.

 

[JJDChE]

Insane amount of money???...Huh????????????????????

How Much Does an NFL Referee Make?
The average salary that an NFL referee earns per year nests between the sums of $25,000 and $70,000. This is not as much as the referees for others like the NHL

and NBA make. The umpires in Major League Baseball make around $141,000 annually. The NBA referees make around $128,000 annually and the NHL officials earn around $139,000 annually. By looking at these sums, individuals will see that the NFL referees are at the bottom of the charts when it comes to the amount of money they earn. However, one has to consider the fact that an NFL referee works one game a week, while referees in the other sports work multiple games per week. The job of NFL referee required flexibility and go through training before match.

In contrast....

As for the type of salary NFL rookies can expect to earn under their contracts, Slough noted that rookies receive “minimum salaries under the CBA.” This season, the minimum salary is $390,000.00. In 2013, this year’s rookies can expect to earn $480,000.00 in salary. In 2014, they’ll earn $570,000.00 in salary.

You have a unique perspective that I, personally,cannot agree with...but you're welcome to think that ref salaries are "insane!!!"....to me that's like going to a steak house and spending 100 bucks on a 2 pound porterhouse and ragging all meal long about MickeyD's raising their Big Mac price by 25 cents.

$70K for weekend work for half the year? Uh, yeah, that's pretty crazy. I ain't mad at 'em, I just think most of them are pretty well off. Hence my 'Dom in the wine cellar' comment. If you put $70K on top of my salary, I'd probably be driving a Porsche within a few years. (FTR, I currently roll in a 2006 Kia minivan, I'm badass).

 

[grux]

Huh? indeed...

“Game officials on average earned almost $150,000 in 2011. Prior to the start of the lockout, we proposed a 7-year deal that would have increased average game official’s compensation more than 7 percent to just over $161,000 in 2012, and further increase that average to more than $189,000 by 2018. In addition, we have offered a generous defined contribution retirement plan, with average contributions of $16,500 in 2012, increasing to more than $22,300 per game official by 2018. Officials also receive numerous other benefits, including severance equal to one year’s game fees and postseason bonus, a period of guaranteed ‘time off’ from the end of the season through mid-May of each year, first-class air travel, and
partial reimbursement for medical insurance for officials who do not have insurance through their other jobs.”
Pash lockout memo reads like a press release | ProFootballTalk

$150K is more than enough pay for a part time job. The refs need to sign the deal and get back to work.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I for one would double the monetary demands immediately and also put in a new condition that Goodell run naked through each stadium in the NFL atleast once before the season is over during the HALF TIME.............

won't work. nfl venues are protected against terror attacks and that, my friend, would clearly be defined as such! :singing: