Sooo....what happens if Brandon Lloyd or Wes Welker goes down?

[supafly]

I understand gaffney is hurt... but your going to tell me shancioe... or ever how you spell it, made the team from the tub, while gaffney who is know quality was cut.. ????

It appears by several sources that Gaffney has an injury. MLR says that it is to his quad and could take several weeks to fully heal. My guess is that Gaffney's injury had a lot to do with his departure here.

Schiancoe is either apparently not too far from playing, or Belichick feels that he'd rather have a full TE arsenal at his disposal for the future. The possibility exists for both.

Don't worry, there will be another WR signed and it may be a familiar face to boot. Belichick is on top of it.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

It appears by several sources that Gaffney has an injury. MLR says that it is to his quad and could take several weeks to fully heal. My guess is that Gaffney's injury had a lot to do with his departure here.

Schiancoe is either apparently not too far from playing, or Belichick feels that he'd rather have a full TE arsenal at his disposal for the future. The possibility exists for both.

Don't worry, there will be another WR signed and it may be a familiar face to boot. Belichick is on top of it.

There are no remaining familiar faces on the market. Bill signed the last three in existence this off season and then cut them all. And Gaffney's injury is said to be personally guesstimated to be of a week or two in remaining duration, not several weeks. That is what he has told multiple teams who are interested in working him out.

Shiancoe may yet land on IR. And word was out early yesterday that he was being cut. That usually emanates from players or agents, and may indicate he knows he's not long for the roster.

 

[ivanvamp]

Did slater line up at wide out even once the whole preseason? Basically leaves them with 3 recievers if they don't make a move thats just asking for trouble. Don't want another 06 or 09.

Please don't compare this team to the '06 squad. Really. The #1 receiver on that team was....wait for it....Reche Caldwell. Their team's top 4 receiving stats:

Caldwell: 61 rec, 760 yds, 4 td
Watson: 49 rec, 643 yds, 3 td
Brown: 43 rec, 384 yds, 4 td
Faulk: 43 rec, 356 yds, 2 td

I mean, that's pathetic. Compare that to the top 4 receivers on the team this year, and their stats last year:

Welker: 122 rec, 1569 yds, 9 td
Gronkowski: 90 rec, 1327 yds, 17 td
Hernandez: 79 rec, 910 yds, 7 td
Lloyd (Den/StL): 70 rec, 966 yds, 5 td

I mean, the best receiving option on the 2006 Patriots wouldn't be even the 4th best receiving option on the 2012 Patriots.

They may have some depth issues, but the top 4 receiving options for this football team are probably the best group of 4 that any team in the league has.

 

[shmessy]

Please don't compare this team to the '06 squad. Really. The #1 receiver on that team was....wait for it....Reche Caldwell. Their team's top 4 receiving stats:

Caldwell: 61 rec, 760 yds, 4 td
Watson: 49 rec, 643 yds, 3 td
Brown: 43 rec, 384 yds, 4 td
Faulk: 43 rec, 356 yds, 2 td

I mean, that's pathetic. Compare that to the top 4 receivers on the team this year, and their stats last year:

Welker: 122 rec, 1569 yds, 9 td
Gronkowski: 90 rec, 1327 yds, 17 td
Hernandez: 79 rec, 910 yds, 7 td
Lloyd (Den/StL): 70 rec, 966 yds, 5 td

I mean, the best receiving option on the 2006 Patriots wouldn't be even the 4th best receiving option on the 2012 Patriots.

They may have some depth issues, but the top 4 receiving options for this football team are probably the best group of 4 that any team in the league has.

I gave your post a "Like", but I do wish folks would quit $hitting all over Reche Caldwell.

He was brought in here to be the #3 WR and caught 61 passes for 760, had a 2yr $2 million contract. He wasn't exactly Ochocinco.

Blame the FO for letting Branch and Givens go that year - - but that guy OUTPLAYED his expectations and contract.

 

[IllegalContact]

There are no replacements for welker or Lloyd. If one or both of them go down, the scheme is in big trouble.

Neither Edelman nor slater has done a thing at WR the lest 2 years

 

[shmessy]

There are no replacements for welker or Lloyd. If one or both of them go down, the scheme is in big trouble.

Neither Edelman nor slater has done a thing at WR the lest 2 years

Being a Cornerback/PR/KR and a Safety/ProBowl STer will cut into one's snaps at WR.

That being said, NOBODY can do for the Pats what Llloyd and Welker present. Best guess is Gaffney and Branch are both on speed dial and have both been consulted about the next few weeks.

 

[IllegalContact]

Being a Cornerback/PR/KR and a Safety/ProBowl STer will cut into one's snaps at WR

Only because they are ineffective at WR ..... If he was an effective WR, then his snaps at the other spots would be cut own.

Your logic is not sound

 

[ivanvamp]

I gave your post a "Like", but I do wish folks would quit $hitting all over Reche Caldwell.

He was brought in here to be the #3 WR and caught 61 passes for 760, had a 2yr $2 million contract. He wasn't exactly Ochocinco.

Blame the FO for letting Branch and Givens go that year - - but that guy OUTPLAYED his expectations and contract.

My point wasn't about Caldwell. He was an adequate #3 WR. The point is that an adequate #3 WR was by far their NUMBER ONE receiver. He isn't nearly as good as any of the top 4 guys on the team now. So my point was that the person worrying that we'll be like the 2006 offense need not worry. It's not even close.

 

[DaBronxPats14]

If a team doesn't pick up Gaffney I could see BB bringin him back with his history and this pre season feel. Branch also could be brought back as well. We DEF Need a WR but I can also A.Hern bein used along with 2 TE set.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

There are no replacements for welker or Lloyd. If one or both of them go down, the scheme is in big trouble.

Neither Edelman nor slater has done a thing at WR the lest 2 years

no. the patriots will be fine if they have 3 of the 4 big weapons - lloyd, welker, hernandez and gronk. if 2 of them go down it will be the super bowl all over again....

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I ask becasue Lloyd has had a history of missing a few games..hamstrings ect. Nothing major but has missed games

 

[Deus Irae]

This is not the final roster. They'll bring in more WR help.

 

[Ring 6]

There are no replacements for welker or Lloyd. If one or both of them go down, the scheme is in big trouble.

Neither Edelman nor slater has done a thing at WR the lest 2 years

Its really good then that rosters aren't frozen huh?

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Gaffney is coming back if the Pats want him back,I think his release was all about injury and not lack of production.

I would bet anything that Jabar and Belichick had a long talk about him being released and signing back on later before he was officially let go.

 

[Ring 6]

Positional versatility makes the WR situation seem thin. But it's not.

Right, its anorexic.

 

[Ring 6]

Gaffney is coming back if the Pats want him back,I think his release was all about injury and not lack of production.

I would bet anything that Jabar and Belichick had a long talk about him being released and signing back on later before he was officially let go.

There is no question. Why hamstring the flexibility of the moves that will be made this week by wasting a roster spot on a guy who can't play the first game, 2 or whatever?
Gaffney wants to be here, got a nice signing bonus, and will probably get a raise when he is resigned to account for the lost paychecks.
We have a 54 man roster.
The timing of doing it before the last ps game makes sense too, because we were sitting the starters and needed bodies to play it out, and bodies at WR to get a look at the QBs.

 

[shmessy]

Gaffney is coming back if the Pats want him back,I think his release was all about injury and not lack of production.

I would bet anything that Jabar and Belichick had a long talk about him being released and signing back on later before he was officially let go.

Pretty much:


http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ant-gaffney-but-reports-he-wants-back-ne.html

 

[West Philly Patriot]

Bedard mentioned in his interview that the pats have been calling around about help at a few positions, I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume one is receiver.

It was mentioned that James Jones was being dangled at one point by the pack. Would really like him as Lloyd backup and he's a great off the field guy as well. If it weren't for his inconsistent hands he'd be a legit number 2 in this league.

 

[Reckedtrek]

This thread is fantastic.

Someone please call BB and tell him he's wrong before someone scoops up all of our cuts.

IF Lloyd and Welker go down...
1) Gronk
2) Hernandez
3) Edelman
4) Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, Bolden

Additional layers of available and/or possible depth include
5) Shiancoe
6) Gaffney
7) Branch
8) Fells
in addition to any WR's they may add to the PS in the next day or two. Hell if Stallworth doesn't get picked up you can put him out there as a third layer. Would he be as good? Not even close, but the chances of getting this low on the totem pole are 10,000:1

For those who say we have no depth, please show other teams that have high quality WR's/TE's that are more deep and are better than the Pats WR's/TE's. Remember to include receiving TE's along with the WR's in your comparison as failure to do so is clearly an attempt to feed your hysteria. You CANNOT overlook Hernandez and Gronk in any analysis of who the Pats have as targets for Brady. 70% of the time Hernandez IS a WR in a TE's body. Who denies this? I thought so.

Final point: the roster is and will likely always be in constant evolution while BB is in charge. If he can add a player to help, he'll do it.
Does BB make mistakes? Absolutely 100% yes he does.
Is BB smarter than you when it comes to football and team management? YES, HE IS.
If you knew 75% of what he knows you'd be a coach in the NFL right now and not posting on the internet.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong. It's a learning opportunity. Take advantage of it.

 

[Deus Irae]

This thread is fantastic.

Someone please call BB and tell him he's wrong before someone scoops up all of our cuts.

IF Lloyd and Welker go down...
1) Gronk
2) Hernandez
3) Edelman
4) Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, Bolden

Additional layers of available and/or possible depth include
5) Shiancoe
6) Gaffney
7) Branch
8) Fells
in addition to any WR's they may add to the PS in the next day or two. Hell if Stallworth doesn't get picked up you can put him out there as a third layer. Would he be as good? Not even close, but the chances of getting this low on the totem pole are 10,000:1

For those who say we have no depth, please show other teams that have high quality WR's/TE's that are more deep and are better than the Pats WR's/TE's. Remember to include receiving TE's along with the WR's in your comparison as failure to do so is clearly an attempt to feed your hysteria. You CANNOT overlook Hernandez and Gronk in any analysis of who the Pats have as targets for Brady. 70% of the time Hernandez IS a WR in a TE's body. Who denies this? I thought so.

Final point: the roster is and will likely always be in constant evolution while BB is in charge. If he can add a player to help, he'll do it.
Does BB make mistakes? Absolutely 100% yes he does.
Is BB smarter than you when it comes to football and team management? YES, HE IS.
If you knew 75% of what he knows you'd be a coach in the NFL right now and not posting on the internet.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong. It's a learning opportunity. Take advantage of it.

Ahhh.... the ol' appeal to authority post. There have been a few of them already.