Cut Down Day Request

[patsinthesnow]

Always got to think on the opposite end for cut down days. You have guys like Nate Ebner who will be ecstatic after thinking themselves as longshots to make the team back in May.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

What time are cuts expected to be announced? I know they are due by 9:00 pm, but was wondering if they might trickle in over the course of the day.

They are trickling in for other teams already even if not official or announced. Depends on who is talking (players, agents, insiders...). Pats tend to hold off 'til the deadline has passed on formally announcing anything.

FYI that should be included in any thread.

Adam Caplan‏@caplannfl

Players waived Thursday and Friday are eligible to be claimed off waivers on Saturday (12 p.m. ET).


I believe that makes 'noon on Sunday the time PS signings can commence.

And a reminder that making it to the 53 today doesn't guarantee you're still there on opening day. Lots of guys will celebrate this afternoon only to be cut in the coming days, week or first few weeks of the season as other options or situations arise. 46-53 are never really etched in stone.

 

[patsfan13]

What we often forget is how exceptional all these guys are as athletes. To get an invite to any major sports tryout identifies you as an exceptional athlete.

We often forget this when they are not as good as the best in the world at their sport.

How many kids play HS football each year and what % ever get an invite to try out for a NFL roster?

The coaches see how hard these guys work and it must be brutal for them to have to cut guys they know are good people who care and give their best effort everyday.

 

[BTTA]

What we often forget is how exceptional all these guys are as athletes. To get an invite to any major sports tryout identifies you as an exceptional athlete.

We often forget this when they are not as good as the best in the world at their sport.

I appreciate the direction of this, but would disagree in that anyone who is even invited to an NFL camp is one of the best in the world at their sport. They are in the top 1% of all the people playing it. 99th percentile pretty much makes you "one of the best in the world."

 

[patfanken]

This is the day. Going from 75 to 53.

These young men put their bodies, souls and financial welfare on the line for the past few months.

It always turns my stomach when I see posts celebrating a player being cut. Let's try to keep a human and humane perspective today. No one would celebrate reading about layoffs at a factory (unless it's in Tehran!).

Thanks.

I appreciate this sentiment. Twice I have been a victim of the feeling, though only once when I thought there was actually a chance I could make the team. Even when you KNOW its coming it doesn't make it any easier, or less awkward, and uncomfortable. You say quick good byes to several former good friends, who are both sorry to see you go, and thrilled that its not them.

In the end all you have are some great stories from this small brush with fame, And as the years fly past the "only if" stories seem to grow more elaborate, even though you understand that you probably really never had a chance. Altogether over 2 summers I spent close to 4 steaming months banging my head against bigger and better athletes pursuing a dream I knew from the start was very unlikely. 2 of the best summers of my life,

See Shmessy. You've taken me down a maudlin memory lane. Now I feel guilty and I'm going to have to call and cancel the caterer for that party I was going to have to celebrate Serio Brown getting cut today. Probably just as well since he spoiled the party anyways by playing his best game as a Patriot against the Giants.

Truth be told, I'm probably jealous. Back in the day, I WAS Sergio Brown, just as bad, but only I didn't have the 2 year career at the bottom of a roster. Damned that 45 man roster.

 

[shmessy]

I appreciate this sentiment. Twice I have been a victim of the feeling, though only once when I thought there was actually a chance I could make the team. Even when you KNOW its coming it doesn't make it any easier, or less awkward, and uncomfortable. You say quick good byes to several former good friends, who are both sorry to see you go, and thrilled that its not them.

In the end all you have are some great stories from this small brush with fame, And as the years fly past the "only if" stories seem to grow more elaborate, even though you understand that you probably really never had a chance. Altogether over 2 summers I spent close to 4 steaming months banging my head against bigger and better athletes pursuing a dream I knew from the start was very unlikely. 2 of the best summers of my life,

See Shmessy. You've taken me down a maudlin memory lane. Now I feel guilty and I'm going to have to call and cancel the caterer for that party I was going to have to celebrate Serio Brown getting cut today. Probably just as well since he spoiled the party anyways by playing his best game as a Patriot against the Giants.

Truth be told, I'm probably jealous. Back in the day, I WAS Sergio Brown, just as bad, but only I didn't have the 2 year career at the bottom of a roster. Damned that 45 man roster.

Wow. That's exactly the kind of thing I had in mind when posting this thread. Thanks for sharing that, Ken.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Turns out there is a short waiver wire in effect for players released today, and a long one for players released yesterday. Claims must be made by 'noon Saturday and at THAT time PS players can begin to be signed.

Here is a listing of the other significant days and times to wrap up the march to the regular season.

August 31 --- Roster cut-down to maximum of 53 players on Active/Inactive List prior to 9:00 p.m. ET. Clubs may dress minimum of 43 and maximum of 46 players for each regular season and postseason game.

September 1 -- Claiming period for players placed on waivers at the final roster reduction will expire at 12:00 p.m. ET.

September 1-- Beginning at 12:00 pm ET, clubs may establish a Practice Squad of eight players by signing free agents who do not have an accrued season of free agency credit or who were on the 46-player Active List for less than nine regular season games during each of any Accrued Seasons. A player cannot participate on the Practice Squad for more than three seasons.

September 4 -- Deadline at 4:00 p.m., New York time, for all NFL Player Contracts, Practice Player Contracts, tender offers, and miscellaneous amounts to fit within each club’s 2012 Salary Cap, in anticipation of the midnight expiration of the Top 51 Rule.

September 5 -- At 12:00 a.m., New York time, the Top 51 Rule expires for all NFL Clubs.

September 5 -- Deadline for Clubs to submit written request to receive up to $1.5 million in additional Salary Cap Room for the 2012 League Year, in accordance with CBA Article 11, Section 5(e)(ii).

September 5, 9-10 -- Regular Season opens.

September 25 -- Priority on multiple waiver claims is now based on the current season's standing.

 

[borg]

I think as a group, PatsFans members should head down to Gillette and be ready to console those unfortunate 22. Group hugs and muffin baskets will surely be needed.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Originally Posted by KontradictioN
I've never seen someone openly celebrate about a cut like this: :rocker: or :singing: or even .

What I have seen is people state that they thought that person would get cut and, for the most part, state their reasons.

Really? You've never seen the likes of "It's about time! See you in the Taco Bell checkout line!!!" I suspect that's the kind of celebration the OP was thinking of.

Just use the search function on "Taco Bell". No names named, but patchick and shmessy are dead on.

You could also look for rude and not very funny distortions of Ihedigbo's name and stuff about Sergio Brown that must be hurtful for them and their families. I wonder how many posters had parents who pushed supermarket trolleys collecting the empties outside frat house parties so as to put food on their table like Ihedigbo's did.

For those who think that mocking people's failure is funny, we have an excellent thread on the Jets.

Anyone can root for Brady or The Gronk. Part of being a real fan is to appreciate everyone who pulls on the jersey and gives his best effort in a really brutal sport. All credit to them!

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Always got to think on the opposite end for cut down days. You have guys like Nate Ebner who will be ecstatic after thinking themselves as longshots to make the team back in May.

FWIW, I don't think successful late-round players really view themselves that way. As an example, consider TFB's comments to Kraft back in 2000.

 

[West Philly Patriot]

Really good thread idea, and I was actually thinking about the process of being cut the other day. Guys like Ventrone are the exception. There is no tomorrow for a lot of these guys in this sport. We can all show some empathy, myself included.

Great thread idea.

 

[West Philly Patriot]

FWIW, I don't think successful late-round players really view themselves that way. As an example, consider TFB's comments to Kraft back in 2000.

Your citing a once in a generation 6th round future HOF QB as the norm though. Success for Ebner would be playing special teams and sub for the next 10 years and making future teams. Being a HOF safety, well I doubt that anyone is saying that about him at this point probably not even himself.(atleast out loud)

I don't think Tom Brady's walk through the door that often.

 

[nabwong]

This is the day. Going from 75 to 53.

These young men put their bodies, souls and financial welfare on the line for the past few months.

It always turns my stomach when I see posts celebrating a player being cut. Let's try to keep a human and humane perspective today. No one would celebrate reading about layoffs at a factory (unless it's in Tehran!).

Thanks.

Shmessy, I agree with 99% of what you said but the Tehran bit is a gross generalization of the entire city.

1000 posts! Woohoo!

 

[Mike the Brit]

And, right on cue, there's a post denigrating Sergio Brown.

Sorry, Mr Brown, that's not the way everyone round here rolls. You gave your all for the team and your farewell was classy.

"He was called, he served, he is counted"

That'll do me ... back when I calm down.

 

[mgteich]

His special team play (3 tackles in the last game alone) is likely to land him a ST roster spot somewhere.

And, right on cue, there's a post denigrating Sergio Brown.

Sorry, Mr Brown, that's not the way everyone round here rolls. You gave your all for the team and your farewell was classy.

"He was called, he served, he is counted"

That'll do me ... back when I calm down.