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Waters will be back. Carter will only be back if there is a horrific string of injuries along the D-Line.
I would tend to agree with you on both counts. Carter sniffing around with the Raiders tends to support the notion that his return is not a sure thing.
As for Waters, it is less clear. Today was a milestone day for him. If he reported by today, he could get enough practices in to see the field against the Giants next week...which should be enough for him to start week #1. With him out this week (assume he won't report in Tampa now), I'm thinking a week #1 scenario is much less likely. So what are the possible situations:
1) Retirement: If he planned to retire, there is no benefit in waiting to announce it. He may eventually end up retiring, but I doubt that is option 1 for him at this point.
2) Holding Out: No indication that his contract situation is an issue. Even if it were, it isn't like he will have many options elsewhere. While possible, this seems unlikely.
3) Injured: PUP and DNR are different designations but the roster effect is the same. If Waters weren't physically ready to report, he would be on PUP.
4) Skipping Camp: Waters doesn't need a full camp to get ready, so this seemed like the most plausible scenario. But camp is over and the opener is less than 3 weeks away. Just the logistics of reporting and the "warmup" period in the new CBA would eat away a good chunk of that. This seems much less likely today than it did yesterday.
5) Shadow Roster: This is my new theory. Waters is willing to return but the concept of a full season isn't overly appealing to him. The timing of when he comes back depends on team needs. With Mankins, Connolly, Thomas, Koppen, Wendell and McDonald (with Cannon available in a pinch), the Pats have an interior line that they are comfortable with. Add an injury or two and Waters gets a call. As the season goes on and the line wears down, a fresh Waters can be added as an injection of energy for a stretch run.
In any case, I think the common perception that Waters/Belichick are on the same page is correct. I'm just less certain that Waters will be at LG in Tennessee.
i think Waters will be back soon as for Carter the fact that no other team tried to sign him a guy that was on pace for 14 sacks befor geting hurt tells me he is still injured or he dose not want to play anymore at lest not for a small contract
His locker is still intact and he's letting the team field questions about his current status. He'll be back by Week 1 at the very latest and he'll be refreshed. The guy is a year or two off from retirement. I don't blame him for skipping camp. Strahan did it in his last year and ask Nick Kaczur how he turned out.
His locker is still intact and he's letting the team field questions about his current status. He'll be back by Week 1 at the very latest and he'll be refreshed. The guy is a year or two off from retirement. I don't blame him for skipping camp. Strahan did it in his last year and ask Nick Kaczur how he turned out.
Chiefs cut Waters July 28, 2011
Patriots sign Waters September 4, 2011
Patriots 1st game September 12, 2011
Waters Makes Pro Bowl
He doesn't like or need training camp. He is our RG.
Chiefs cut Waters July 28, 2011
Patriots sign Waters September 4, 2011
Patriots 1st game September 12, 2011
Waters Makes Pro Bowl
He doesn't like or need training camp. He is our RG.
Per the Boston Herald's Jeff Howe, "word is" free agent DE Andre Carter still lacks speed and explosion coming off last year's torn quadriceps muscle.
Carter is "not close to being ready to play," according to Howe. The Raiders and Rams have shown interest in Carter in recent days, but neither team has signed him. At age 33, it's fair to wonder if Carter will regain his early-2011 form.
Feeling confident Waters will be there at opening day - just too many little indicators, and I am just hoping that Reiss is having another "Addai Moment".