If you get kicked out of Gillette, the penalty is a big one

[Tunescribe]

I wouldn't go that far...pyrite maybe...

My mother made pie right, God rest her soul. Rhubarb, cherry, apple, peach, lemon ... Damn, why don't today's women do things like that?

 

[fgssand]

Re: If you get kicked out of Gillette, the penalty league-wide is a big one

x2. Nothing like it. "Tailgating" at home is not even close to the same. I don't give a **** if i have to pay $80 to park. I am going to have a blast outside with thousands of other crazy fans. And nothing like the atmosphere. I have been to almost every huge win at Gillette. Wouldn't trade it in the world to watch it on TV.

Who cares if the bathrooms are close or you save $$. I grew up going to games and will keep going until i am dead. It's almost like a tradition for me. Wake up on a sunday in the fall. Most likely headed to gillette for the day. Love it

Some people hate other people or hate paying and hate traffic. That's fine. To each their own. for me this isn't a reason not to go. Hell there could be a health epidemic and i would be in the top row all alone lol



I was at that game as well. Yes it must have been great at home on TV. But being there and seeing the joy on everyone faces and how loud it got. Still gives me goosebumps

No question..............being there for moments such as last years raven game, or Snow bowl or the first (and every other) banner game is what it's all about.

I am fortunate to have great seats 2/3's of the way up, lower bowl, between the 20's, so, sure, that may make a difference vs the nosebleeds.

The ability to watch what I want to watch and not just the ball (which is what the TV cameras show) is what makes the difference for me.

I get to see coverages, pass patterns, blitzes as the develop etc etc. I can focus in on one player and watch his every move for a while. Just studying Wilfork for example for 10 or 15 plays enables me to and appreciate the man that owns his position, he is simply incredible - what are you going to see on TV of his play?? I often times will study the head coach or the coach on the sideline as he gathers his players and coaches them up. The ability to focus in on injuries also helps to judge severity.

The appreciation for the "game within the game" that I am able to gain with in person experience is so much better than TV. I get my fill of TV on away games, best of both worlds I say.

 

[Joker]

My mother made pie right, God rest her soul. Rhubarb, cherry, apple, peach, lemon ... Damn, why don't today's women do things like that?

you keep this hammy egger act up and YOU are gonna get a pie right...right in the kisser!!...

 

[ivanvamp]

This is interesting, and if for Patriots fans it apparently costs the most:

NFL gets serious about fan conduct:

NFL to require ejected fans to take online fan conduct course - ESPN

Um, forgive me if this has already been asked, but how exactly is this enforceable? If my buddy buys two tickets and gives one to me, and I get kicked out, what's to stop me from having another buddy buy two tickets and give one to me. You don't need an ID to bum a ticket off a friend. How on earth will they know that you, Mr. Violator, will be back inside the stadium?

 

[Deus Irae]

Um, forgive me if this has already been asked, but how exactly is this enforceable? If my buddy buys two tickets and gives one to me, and I get kicked out, what's to stop me from having another buddy buy two tickets and give one to me. You don't need an ID to bum a ticket off a friend. How on earth will they know that you, Mr. Violator, will be back inside the stadium?

They may eventually use facial recognition cameras.

Skeptics might wonder how teams are going to keep track of ejected fans from week to week. Ray DiNunzio, the NFL's director of strategic security, told ESPN the monitoring will vary by team but could at some point involve facial recognition technology.

To re-quote myself from earlier in the thread

Another great reason not to go to the games...

 

[shmessy]

Re: If you get kicked out of Gillette, the penalty league-wide is a big one

Tailgate-style partying can be done at home, with friends and family, and you don't have to pay $60 a car for the privilege. As a matter of fact, I used to live near a neighbor who used a projection system and a huge backdrop to watch the game outside with friends, family and neighbors.

I've never been to a tailgate, at any football game, that matched what he was doing.

Game-wise, however, you are at the mercy of the TV Director as to what you get to see on the field of play. I don't need to see 20 seconds of Roethlisberger close-up facial reaction, or cutaways to commercial when a Patriot is lying on the turf, not knowing whether he will get up or not. Then there are those wonderful intro of the players telling us what position they play and what school they attended while the first few plays of the game are taking place.

The TV games are becoming much sharper, but also far less football-intensive and far more commercial-breaked.

There are advantages and disadvantages to each.

 

[NSPF]

Anyone else ever snuck their way into the luxury seats for a game? They're incredible, it's like being in your living room (private bathroom and everything), except instead of a television, there's an NFL football field.

You do miss out on the experience of being the crowd though.

 

[Joker]

I went to a ton of games when Allied was an existing business entity...the box was right on the 50...ridiculous amenities...but I found I was more detached from the game and more involved in partying...which I was doing at the tailgates anyway. Give me a seat in the 100's and I'm all set at this point.

 

[crew1954]

Um, forgive me if this has already been asked, but how exactly is this enforceable? If my buddy buys two tickets and gives one to me, and I get kicked out, what's to stop me from having another buddy buy two tickets and give one to me. You don't need an ID to bum a ticket off a friend. How on earth will they know that you, Mr. Violator, will be back inside the stadium?

Hire Homeland Security and start requiring ID?

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

To re-quote myself from earlier in the thread

We all heard you the first time..don't worry

 

[Yehoodi]

Re: If you get kicked out of Gillette, the penalty league-wide is a big one

Don't kid yourself. I've been a season ticket holder for 19 years and have missed all of two home games. There is NOTHING like being there. You see 1,000 percent more than on television, and you can't beat tailgating or hanging at Louie's before the game.

sorry but i cant agree with you on this one . . . certainly you see a different perspective (that is a pulled back version of the entire field being in the stands), but not more necessarily . . . what you gain in seeing the entire field (at the game) you loose the close up views, not to mention replays and ones ability to replay it oneself with the DVR,

so sure you can see the entire play develop, but at the expense of the close up views where one can see more interaction between the players . ..also too with the new HD format you see nearly all 22 players anyways, and any plays that are of importance you will get a endzone replay showing the entire field . . . coupled with the fact that you can rewind any play you want you have unlimited viewing at homes . . .

so its not more viewing just a different perspective . . . .

 

[rjw]

Um, don't get me wrong. I love the Patriots.

However, I'm not rich. I can either go to a game and miss most of it looking for the bathroom.

Or save, what $400 total? That is a fifth of Jack and two prostitutes. You can't have prostitutes at the stadium.

"Escorts" are ok though, right?

 

[Tunescribe]

Re: If you get kicked out of Gillette, the penalty league-wide is a big one

sorry but i cant agree with you on this one . . . certainly you see a different perspective (that is a pulled back version of the entire field being in the stands), but not more necessarily . . . what you gain in seeing the entire field (at the game) you loose the close up views, not to mention replays and ones ability to replay it oneself with the DVR,

so sure you can see the entire play develop, but at the expense of the close up views where one can see more interaction between the players . ..also too with the new HD format you see nearly all 22 players anyways, and any plays that are of importance you will get a endzone replay showing the entire field . . . coupled with the fact that you can rewind any play you want you have unlimited viewing at homes . . .

so its not more viewing just a different perspective . . . .

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Have you ever been to a live game? Each play at the stadium has replay (usually more than once) on HD screens many times bigger than what you have at home. You might see NEARLY all 22 players on TV at home, but that's a poor substitute for seeing ALL 22 players live. Seeing the plays develop -- especially what's happening in the defensive backfield as receivers run their routes -- is an absolute key to the game chopped up and lost on the television feed. You also miss what happens in the offensive backfield and at the line of scrimmage after the pass is released. The TV camera follows the ball, but I can see blocking schemes developing outside that field of view and anticipate where the play is going. I also see the subpackages coming in defensively and substitutions offensively while your television is showing a commercial, so I have a better idea what's about to come.

What you also miss at home (specifically only to view): what's going on at both benches, what's going on when a player is down, what happens to injured players after coming off the field, etc., etc. I knew Fletcher was seriously hurt last week because he was being assisted downstairs to the training room while your TV camera was missing some six or seven players during a play on the field.

Finally, regarding "close-up views," I have this thing called Bausch & Lomb binoculars that shows me Woodhead's hand bleeding, the sweat dripping off Wilfork's facemask, Brady slamming his helmet on the bench and BB blowing into a snotrag after yelling at a linebacker.

Still disagree with me?

 

[Joker]

You had me at Bausch and Lomb....

 

[scout]

All good points. The scene from Goodwill Hunting, when Robin Williams tells Damon "I bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel." My brother has not been to a movie theater in decades. He has surround sound and a big screen and an opinion. My family swears by flying in to Providence to get to the Cape, versus Logan. I'll put up with traffic and inconvenience to feel the electricity of Boston, the smell, sights and noise. Just like a ballgame, they cannot be duplicated.

 

[FCB02062]

As a former season ticket holder of 14 or 15 years who's done the massive tailgating ritual and the at home giant tv thing, I have to say nothing compares to going to the games - nothing. The folks that are clammoring for the tv experience likely haven't been to a playoff game victory at home. The 96 ACFCG v Jacksonville was the most amazing sporting event I've ever attended live, and I've been to hundreds of Bruins, Celtics, Pats, Red Sox, BC, Northeastern, UMASS, etc., games. The stadium was shaking because it was so loud and fans were jumping up and down on their benches when O-T-I-S was returning a fumble down the sideline....f-ing amazing. GO PATS

 

[BTTA]

All good points. The scene from Goodwill Hunting, when Robin Williams tells Damon "I bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel." My brother has not been to a movie theater in decades. He has surround sound and a big screen and an opinion. My family swears by flying in to Providence to get to the Cape, versus Logan. I'll put up with traffic and inconvenience to feel the electricity of Boston, the smell, sights and noise. Just like a ballgame, they cannot be duplicated.

I loved this until you reminded me of the smells of Logan.

 

[Hart Lee Chung]

There are ways around facial recognition...(not sure if I like this way though).

 

[PatsDeb]

Re: If you get kicked out of Gillette, the penalty league-wide is a big one

There are a lot of good reasons not to go to games, and also some good reasons to go, but this is neither, this is about not being a jackass if you do go. How many people here are getting ejected from games, anyway? I'd think most posters here are too hardcore of football fans to get drunk and get thrown out of the stadium.

I was thinking the same thing. Real football fans don't get thrown out. It's the jerks who get Uncle Joe's tickets for one game every ten years, or buy them off Stubhub and get drunk off their butts. I do hope this policy takes some heat off of Uncle Joe. I think the Pats' policy of revoking season tickets for someone who let someone else use their tickets and that person gets into trouble is a bad one. It punishes good fans the Pats shouldn't want to lose. Focusing on the person, rather than the ticket owner, will be a good policy. There is no mention, however, that this is the way the Pats are going to play it.

 

[PatsDeb]

My mother made pie right, God rest her soul. Rhubarb, cherry, apple, peach, lemon ... Damn, why don't today's women do things like that?

We're too busy working so our menfolk can have their big screen tvs.