OT: Jets trade for Panthers OT Otah

[ausbacker]

Patriots get Brian Waters & Robert Gallery Jets get Jeff Otah.

 

[Gunnails]

I am not that excited about this guy after hearing about his weight and lack of ,,,eye of the tigerish type of thing. But I think it is a shrewd low cost gamble on a former first round tackle with tons of upside, not a desperate or grasping at straws type of move at all. This move like Landyry could pay off big or cost just a few million dollars, LOL.

 

[shmessy]

The guy is done. He has played in only 4 games in 2 years because of his health. If healthy he is good, but he cannot stay on the field. Jets are desperate for anything better than Hunter. I should give them my grandmas number she would fit that description.

Scouting reports have her with great footwork, but her time in the 40 is abysmal.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I am not that excited about this guy after hearing about his weight and lack of ,,,eye of the tigerish type of thing. But I think it is a shrewd low cost gamble on a former first round tackle with tons of upside, not a desperate or grasping at straws type of move at all. This move like Landyry could pay off big or cost just a few million dollars, LOL.

For the price that the Jets paid (7th rounder), it's not a bad deal. Production-wise, if he sucks they can cut him at next to no cost, and as far as him being a potentially negative locker room guy, they already have enough of those that one more is unlikely to make much of a difference.

 

[BradyFTW!]

LaCanfora reports that the deal is essentially a 3 team swap with Raider WR Louis Murphy going to Panthers for the pick they got from the Jets. That's one shrewd deal. Getting a guy with speed and size for a dude who's been a non-factor for 2 years. Murphy may not be a star but he's talented. I would have been pleased if the Pats sent a 7th rounder to the Raiders for him. He's a former track star in sprinting and has always averaged around 15yds/catch or better. At 6'2"/214 Murphy would have been a real threat to make the team as he also plays some special teams. The Jets got tooled by Carolina who dumped a major problem on the Jets and in turn got back a guy who has a real chance to excel with a stud like Newton chucking the ball.

I too would have liked seeing the Pats get Murphy for a 7th. I wonder why the Raiders were willing to part with him at that price.

 

[ausbacker]

I too would have liked seeing the Pats get Murphy for a 7th. I wonder why the Raiders were willing to part with him at that price.

Jacoby Ford, Darius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore would have all been a head of him on the depth chart. That's without mentioning the 800 other (6 rookie receivers) receivers they have on their roster.

Good on the Panthers. They needed help as they've got nobody after Steve Smith in Carolina. Murphy should be a nice compliment.

 

[Rob0729]

I am not that excited about this guy after hearing about his weight and lack of ,,,eye of the tigerish type of thing. But I think it is a shrewd low cost gamble on a former first round tackle with tons of upside, not a desperate or grasping at straws type of move at all. This move like Landyry could pay off big or cost just a few million dollars, LOL.

Certainly they could pay off huge. Personally, I don't think Otah will pan out because missing basically two seasons in a row is usually the death sentence to a player's career especially when it is because of the same knee.

Landry could pay off more, but the fact that he decided to go the holistic route to repair his torn Achilles would scare me though.

 

[patchick]

I think the whole Jets roster continues to pay for the way they pissed away the incredibly talented 2010 draft. (Only 4 total picks, and the likes of Vlad Ducasse among them.)

Random factoid:

Total number of games started for the Jets by their 2010 draftees: 22

Total number of games started for the Patriots by their 2010 draftees: 111

 

[patfanken]

To be fair if the Pats has made this trade, we'd be looking at it as an underwhelming but shrewd high upside and low risk shot in the dark. This was a good trade for the Jets. For a lot of reasons that have already been stated, it might not work out, but for a 7th round pick and around a $1MM at worst the Jets have added an OT who has at least started some games in the NFL

The only things that are dumb about this trade are Jet fans, who unlike Gunny are looking on this as a HUGE upgrade in their OL situation. They think that health is the ONLY reason the Panthers thought a former UDFA was a better fit than a former 1st rounder. " Stud, beast, and among the best OT's in the league.....when healthy" are just some of the characterizations they use to describe this "genius" move by Tanny.
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[ctpatsfan77]

I think the whole Jets roster continues to pay for the way they pissed away the incredibly talented 2010 draft. (Only 4 total picks, and the likes of Vlad Ducasse among them.)

Random factoid:

Total number of games started for the Jets by their 2010 draftees: 22

Total number of games started for the Patriots by their 2010 draftees: 111

Just as a reminder:

2010 JEST draft:

1 Kyle Wilson CB
2 Vladimir Ducasse OT
4 Joe McKnight RB
5 John Conner FB

If I were Pats GM, and the JEST offered those four straight up for Zoltan Mesko, I'd have to think long and hard . . . and then ROTFLMAO.

 

[Gunnails]

Should be mentioned that Otah is in his contract year, so he is playing for a contract, make or brake year for the guy, if he fails with the Jet he wont get many other offers.
So he should be motivated to stay on the field.

 

[Joker]

a "brake"year??..really?? he's THAT fast he needs brakes???

 

[JetFan1]

LaCanfora reports that the deal is essentially a 3 team swap with Raider WR Louis Murphy going to Panthers for the pick they got from the Jets. That's one shrewd deal. Getting a guy with speed and size for a dude who's been a non-factor for 2 years. Murphy may not be a star but he's talented. I would have been pleased if the Pats sent a 7th rounder to the Raiders for him. He's a former track star in sprinting and has always averaged around 15yds/catch or better. At 6'2"/214 Murphy would have been a real threat to make the team as he also plays some special teams. The Jets got tooled by Carolina who dumped a major problem on the Jets and in turn got back a guy who has a real chance to excel with a stud like Newton chucking the ball.

The Jets got tooled?

Are all Pats fans as bright as you?

The move is about as low risk/high reward you can get. The Jets gave up nothing for him, are going for a player where they don't don't have to make a major investment, both from a cap standpoint, and draft compensation, and are either hoping or relying possibly on some intel that Otah could be a player that needs a change of scenery. If he's healthy, the Jets got a top 5 RT for nothing, if not, they move on to the next option and pay nothing.

Are there no objective Pats fans on this board?

If the Pats make this move, you all would be singing the praises of the Pats front office for being geniuses and having the foresight to try and catch lightning in a bottle?

 

[JetFan1]

For the price that the Jets paid (7th rounder), it's not a bad deal. Production-wise, if he sucks they can cut him at next to no cost, and as far as him being a potentially negative locker room guy, they already have enough of those that one more is unlikely to make much of a difference.

Who?

 

[JetFan1]

Certainly they could pay off huge. Personally, I don't think Otah will pan out because missing basically two seasons in a row is usually the death sentence to a player's career especially when it is because of the same knee.

Landry could pay off more, but the fact that he decided to go the holistic route to repair his torn Achilles would scare me though.

Shocking!!!

Also, Landry didn't have a torn achillies, the injury was closer to the bone where the ligament is attached, that's why he didn't opt for the knife.

 

[Joker]

What happened Ray Ray...banned AGAIN at J.I.?

 

[BradyFTW!]

Who?

Holmes, Sanchez, Revis, Coples, McKnight, Cromartie. Not as bad as in years past since Plaxico and LT are gone, but still far from great.

Let me guess, you're one of those Jets fans that doesn't even believe the quotes coming from your own team's locker room about how messed up it was?

 

[BradyFTW!]

Shocking!!!

Also, Landry didn't have a torn achillies, the injury was closer to the bone where the ligament is attached, that's why he didn't opt for the knife.

It's true that the Achilles is not torn. Even at the time of the injury, that was known. That's not really the point, though. The point is that Landry elected not to go for surgery because that would have cost him part or all of the 2012 season. If you think that Landry's going to be 'fixed' by PRPT, then you're basically saying is that you believe the PR that Landry put out there while trying to attract FA suitors, rather than the Redskins organization and medical staff, who were so against his course of action that they refused to pay for the treatment then didn't even try to re-sign him. And they did this based on the reports of Dr. Robert Anderson, who is a renowned specialist for this stuff (say what you want about Dan Snyder, but he doesn't skimp on these types of costs).

Even as a Patriots fan, I hope that this works out for LaRon. PRPT is a really exciting medical development, which has the potential to not only lead to longer careers for athletes in pretty much every sport, but could also end up significantly improving the quality of life for aging people all over the world. Every time I see it succeed in sports, I'm happy about it. So believe me, I'm not coming from a homer place here: I want Landry to make it back to 100% through non-surgical means. That said, your head must be buried pretty far in the sand to ignore all of those red flags.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Certainly they could pay off huge. Personally, I don't think Otah will pan out because missing basically two seasons in a row is usually the death sentence to a player's career especially when it is because of the same knee.

Landry could pay off more, but the fact that he decided to go the holistic route to repair his torn Achilles would scare me though.

I wouldn't call PRPT holistic. It's a real treatment, and a bunch of athletes, starting with Kobe Bryant and A-Rod (confirmed, I'm sure there have been a ton more, and I'm sincerely hoping that Pierce and KG are having it done right now) have used it with great success.

Whenever I've heard of athletes using it in the past, it was to treat joint issues, such as Kobe's knee or A-Rod's hip. Sounds like Landry is doing something else, so it'll be interesting to see if it works. Even with A-Rod and Kobe, I don't think that there were doctors recommending surgery instead (beyond scoping, at least). As I understood it, it was more of a measure taken to turn back the clock on the joints in question, rather than fix an injury that would typically require surgery. I'm no expert on this stuff, though, so maybe someone who knows more can clarify.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

If it's a 6th rounder or less I'd say it's a solid move. What do you got to lose by giving up a 6th, low risk high reward.