Starting times for the "4pm" games is moved back

[Deus Irae]

I'm not sure 60 minutes is going to like this....

John Ourand of SportsBusiness Journal reports that the NFL will move the kickoff time for the late-afternoon Sunday games from 4:15 p.m. ET to 4:25 p.m. ET.

NFL bumps late-afternoon kickoffs by 10 minutes | ProFootballTalk

 

[Deus Irae]

And there's an update:

The NFL has announced the change. The league explains that the change would have reduced overlap by 66 percent over the last three seasons, reducing the numbers of affected games from 44 to 15. The league also said that the regionally-televised late-afternoon games will continue to begin at 4:05 p.m. ET.

 

[TriplecHamp]

Nothing worse than having to watch the final 10 minutes of a goddamn jags/jets game instead of watching the Pats.

 

[Rob0729]

I kinda like this move. There are more than a few times when a great game is coming down to the wire and they have to switch to another game that none of us care about like the Giants vs. the Cardinals.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Nothing worse than having to watch the final 10 minutes of a goddamn jags/jets game instead of watching the Pats.

OTOH, the JEST/Bills OT game from 2009 (the same day as the Snow Bowl) was absolutely priceless. :singing:

 

[Rob0729]

Nothing worse than having to watch the final 10 minutes of a goddamn jags/jets game instead of watching the Pats.

Well, that is kinda irrelevant since NBC would cut out of the Jets/Jag game to broadcast the start of the Pats' game. It works the other way in that if the early game is great, you won't cut out of the end of the game to broadcast a crappy Giants' game.

 

[TheBeers]

Good move.. also allows 10 extra minutes for last minute FF lineup changes!

:bricks:

 

[jmt57]

I'm not sure 60 minutes is going to like this....



NFL bumps late-afternoon kickoffs by 10 minutes | ProFootballTalk

As a football fan I'm perfectly fine with the change. From a business perspective I'm really surprised that CBS and Fox agreed to the change. Viewers tune in to see a show and it's not there; rather than wait they're likely to change the channel, start watching something else, and never remember to flip back. Similarly the biggest profit center for affiliates is their local news; when that's not on at it's normal time viewers will simply flip over to another channel. End result is lower ratings which mean lower profits.

Again as a football fine I'm fine with the change, so we can avoid overlap, potential 'blackout' of the end of a game being watched, and other reasons discussed previously; I'm just surprised the networks signed off on the deal.

 

[Deus Irae]

As a football fan I'm perfectly fine with the change. From a business perspective I'm really surprised that CBS and Fox agreed to the change. Viewers tune in to see a show and it's not there; rather than wait they're likely to change the channel, start watching something else, and never remember to flip back. Similarly the biggest profit center for affiliates is their local news; when that's not on at it's normal time viewers will simply flip over to another channel. End result is lower ratings which mean lower profits.

Again as a football fine I'm fine with the change, so we can avoid overlap, potential 'blackout' of the end of a game being watched, and other reasons discussed previously; I'm just surprised the networks signed off on the deal.

Yeah, I hear what you're saying. It seems to me that the easier, and smarter, solution would just have been to give the networks discretion about which to carry, and allow for the sort of two window viewing which technology has granted us the ability to use.

 

[patchick]

Isn't this the inevitable result of adding replay reviews, particularly after every TD? I assume the average game is a few minutes longer now.

 

[Ring 6]

Isn't this the inevitable result of adding replay reviews, particularly after every TD? I assume the average game is a few minutes longer now.

They waste a lot more time on TV timeouts than on getting a call right.

 

[signbabybrady]

But now I have less time to scarf down dinner between the late game and sunday night football .


Sounds like the smarter move may have been to move up the start time of the conflicting one o'clock games thus not to affect the on air content following the games.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

But now I have less time to scarf down dinner between the late game and sunday night football .


Sounds like the smarter move may have been to move up the start time of the conflicting one o'clock games thus not to affect the on air content following the games.

Yeah I dunno why they wouldn't just move the early games up to 12:30.

 

[Shockt327]

The NFL has announced the change. The league explains that the change would have reduced overlap by 66 percent over the last three seasons, reducing the numbers of affected games from 44 to 15. The league also said that the regionally-televised late-afternoon games will continue to begin at 4:05 p.m. ET.

That a excellent goal...that's being pursued in the wrong way.

If the NFL wants to cut down on overlap, than they should try to cut down on the length of games. I'm guessing that run-times have steadily increased over the years. I don't want the NFL to become like MLB. I'd love to know how bad the runtimes are compared to NCAA football.

I say this because the biggest period of downtime, by my eye, is the challenge system. Is there any need for the on-field official to have to run over to that little on-field kiosk? It's a waste of time. 9 times out of 10, before the ref even makes it to the booth, the audience has already seen replays from, like, 3 different camera-angles and the result is pretty clear. It's a waste of time. Do what the NCAA does and just let the decision come from the booth. That's seriously got to be worth about 7-10 minutes right there; probably more if both teams go through all their flags.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I say this because the biggest period of downtime, by my eye, is the challenge system. Is there any need for the on-field official to have to run over to that little on-field kiosk? It's a waste of time. 9 times out of 10, before the ref even makes it to the booth, the audience has already seen replays from, like, 3 different camera-angles and the result is pretty clear. It's a waste of time. Do what the NCAA does and just let the decision come from the booth. That's seriously got to be worth about 7-10 minutes right there; probably more if both teams go through all their flags.

That's a good idea, but I think the worst downtime is after a TD. They'll take a TV timeout after the XP and again after the kickoff. To me that is ridiculous and kills the flow of the game. Unfortunately it's not going to change, but I do like your idea.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Nothing worse than having to watch the final 10 minutes of a goddamn jags/jets game instead of watching the Pats.

What I really don't get is WHY NFL sunday ticket has to broadcast the earlier game over the 4:15 game? I mean the point of the package is to see what you want as the game would be available on another channel or main channels (ABC, CBS, Fox).

I know the NFL mandates it, but it's entirely frustrating and doesn't seem to have a good reason.

Thus, I guess I'm in favor of the move.

 

[thenepatsrule]

Maybe the NFL should ask REX RYAN to lose some weight, i am pretty sure all the games which went past the 4:!5 timeline were jets games were REX RYAN took like 20 minutes to run onto the field and then it took another 15 minutes for the grounds men to cover up the holes.........

 

[jmt57]

What I really don't get is WHY NFL sunday ticket has to broadcast the earlier game over the 4:15 game? I mean the point of the package is to see what you want as the game would be available on another channel or main channels (ABC, CBS, Fox).

I know the NFL mandates it, but it's entirely frustrating and doesn't seem to have a good reason.

Thus, I guess I'm in favor of the move.

Ads are sold based on having a captive audience in a given market. If they didn't have that guarantee then the advertising rates would be lower.

I don't like it either but there is a method to the madness.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Ads are sold based on having a captive audience in a given market. If they didn't have that guarantee then the advertising rates would be lower.

I don't like it either but there is a method to the madness.

That makes sense as long as the ads are sold based on the time from the end of the game and then ads sold at the beginning of the 4:15 games would have to be significantly cheaper as you'd be robbing ad space away from the later game.

Though looking at it across a time line, you ultimately have the same number of minutes available and if the 4:15 game is a "highlight" game then you could lose money?

 

[Rob0729]

That a excellent goal...that's being pursued in the wrong way.

If the NFL wants to cut down on overlap, than they should try to cut down on the length of games. I'm guessing that run-times have steadily increased over the years. I don't want the NFL to become like MLB. I'd love to know how bad the runtimes are compared to NCAA football.

I say this because the biggest period of downtime, by my eye, is the challenge system. Is there any need for the on-field official to have to run over to that little on-field kiosk? It's a waste of time. 9 times out of 10, before the ref even makes it to the booth, the audience has already seen replays from, like, 3 different camera-angles and the result is pretty clear. It's a waste of time. Do what the NCAA does and just let the decision come from the booth. That's seriously got to be worth about 7-10 minutes right there; probably more if both teams go through all their flags.

Well, they are taking more challenge opportunities away from coaches. This year, all turnovers will be reviewed by the booth and will be booth challenges only just like the TDs are. Those are the biggest challenge areas that coaches would have challenged a few years back. Granted it could add to more challenges, but the replay booth at least has a half minute to minute to look at the replay which should minimize stupid challenges that have no shot of being overturned.