Why I think Brady was off the mark

[40yrpatsfan]

No secret that Brady missed badly on about 6 balls that I can think of Sunday: his first 2 INT's, and at least four wide open receivers. Not all those passes were bad for the same reason, but at least twice I think I did see something.

When the SD pass rush started to close in, the rushers did not go directly to where Brady was standing, but instead a yard or two to his right or left, especially to his right. They seemed to be anticipating his pocket movement, and wanted to take that away more than actually get to him.

It seemed to throw him off his natural step and stride. The 2 or 3 times he badly underthrew receivers on the sidelines is when I noticed it. He started to step into the throw and then didn't take a normal full step, leading to an underthrow.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Add in the fact that Brady had the three lowliest WRs in the league trying to get open for him, and you are getting somewhere. And no running game.

People always talk about Marty ball being so lame, yet Marty has managed to expose us badly every single time we have played them. If your theory is correct, then Marty has come up with another blueprint to get to Brady.

It used to be by shutting down Twig.

 

[DefenseRules]

Add in the fact that Brady had the three lowliest WRs in the league trying to get open for him, and you are getting somewhere. And no running game.

People always talk about Marty ball being so lame, yet Marty has managed to expose us badly every single time we have played them. If your theory is correct, then Marty has come up with another blueprint to get to Brady.

It used to be by shutting down Twig.

Well I hope that they do something about it. DILLON, MARONEY, FAULK AND EVANS will be vital in this game, IMO. We need our RBs to step up big time.

 

[BelichickFan]

Add in the fact that Brady had the three lowliest WRs in the league trying to get open for him, and you are getting somewhere.

That doesn't explain him missing wide open receivers. Once they're open, they're open whatever their name is.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

That doesn't explain him missing wide open receivers. Once they're open, they're open whatever their name is.

He had a bad game, clearly. What do you want to do, trade him for somebody else?

 

[BelichickFan]

He had a bad game, clearly. What do you want to do, trade him for somebody else?

:wha:

We can discuss his imperfections without being deemed as someone who wants him benched

 

[Kasmir]

He had a bad game, clearly. What do you want to do, trade him for somebody else?

Of course not, but it's really irritating to see fans continuing to throw Caldwell, Gaffney etc under the bus to shield Brady from any criticism. These guys have stepped up, are playing well with Brady, getting open where and when he needs them to be open, but for some reason his accuracy is off this year.

 

[oldskool138]

He had a bad game, clearly. What do you want to do, trade him for somebody else?

YEAH, we can get a high first round pick for him...Sweet, let me call up the Raiders and see if they're interested.

 

[Oswlek]

:wha:

We can discuss his imperfections without being deemed as someone who wants him benched

I think 5 rings is a little touchy today.

 

[slam]

No secret that Brady missed badly on about 6 balls that I can think of Sunday: his first 2 INT's, and at least four wide open receivers. Not all those passes were bad for the same reason, but at least twice I think I did see something.

His first INT wasn't a bad throw, it was a bad read.

 

[GinoCappelletti]

Brady has been erratic all year as far as missing on throws. I think its been a combination of the new, and downgraded recieving core, and I think his shoulder is injured. Remember in 2003 when Vinatieri was inconsistant on Field Goals and it came out he had an injured back? I think its something similar to that.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

I think 5 rings is a little touchy today.

You would be wrong about that. I was responded to a guy that calls Brady names like prissy or whatever. In another thread he suggests that Brady is more bothered by things than other QBs. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If you want to throw Brady under the bus for being off at times, than put your thinking cap on and examine the full year of football.

Notice the lack of protection in many games. Notice all the hits Brady took. Notice his revolving door of skill players. Notice the running game is often MIA. Then notice that Brady had a solid season overall statistically.

The problem here is that people are looking to throw Brady under the bus due to his circumstances without looking at the bigger picture. Brady had a bad game because he was rushing his throws, and may have felt uncomfortable the way the Chargers encroached on his pocket. That was the theory of this thred, after all.

I guess according to you guys we should all just complain about Brady's play? I fail to see what the big problem with Brady having a bad game is. He tried too hard to get the ball out.

Manning just had two bad games.

 

[Oswlek]

You would be wrong about that. I was responded to a guy that calls Brady names like prissy or whatever. In another thread he suggests that Brady is more bothered by things than other QBs. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If you want to throw Brady under the bus for being off at times, than put your thinking cap on and examine the full year of football.

Notice the lack of protection in many games. Notice all the hits Brady took. Notice his revolving door of skill players. Notice the running game is often MIA. Then notice that Brady had a solid season overall statistically.

The problem here is that people are looking to throw Brady under the bus due to his circumstances without looking at the bigger picture. Brady had a bad game because he was rushing his throws, and may have felt uncomfortable the way the Chargers encroached on his pocket. That was the theory of this thred, after all.

I guess according to you guys we should all just complain about Brady's play? I fail to see what the big problem with Brady having a bad game is. He tried too hard to get the ball out.

Manning just had two bad games.

I hadn't seen the other posts. If I was wrong I apologize.

 

[BelichickFan]

You would be wrong about that. I was responded to a guy that calls Brady names like prissy or whatever. In another thread he suggests that Brady is more bothered by things than other QBs. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Look, I love Brady. At least as much as you I am sure. But he's not perfect and he lets things bother him. That doesn't make him less than great, it just makes him less than perfect - and, by the way, he is less than perfect.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Brady has been erratic all year as far as missing on throws. I think its been a combination of the new, and downgraded recieving core, and I think his shoulder is injured. Remember in 2003 when Vinatieri was inconsistant on Field Goals and it came out he had an injured back? I think its something similar to that.

Yes, a combination of events. As in Brady is doing the best he can under adverse circumstances, which some fans seem to not recognize.

I would add in highly inconsistent protection to the mix.

 

[RayClay]

Add in the fact that Brady had the three lowliest WRs in the league trying to get open for him, and you are getting somewhere. And no running game.

People always talk about Marty ball being so lame, yet Marty has managed to expose us badly every single time we have played them. If your theory is correct, then Marty has come up with another blueprint to get to Brady.

It used to be by shutting down Twig.

1. J. Gaffney NE 207
2. R. Brown PHI 149
3. D. Clark IND 144
4. D. Stallworth PHI 141
5. R. Caldwell NE 130



1. T. Brady NE 492
2. P. Manning IND 438
3. M. Hasselbeck SEA 435
4. J. Garcia PHI 393
5. C. Pennington NYJ 300

 

[cstjohn17]

Look, I love Brady. At least as much as you I am sure. But he's not perfect and he lets things bother him. That doesn't make him less than great, it just makes him less than perfect - and, by the way, he is less than perfect.

I think BB had him miss the open receivers on purpose so he could unleash a secret and impossible to stop Brady against the Colts. Chad Jackson factors heavily in this secret plan...

 

[RayClay]

Add in the fact that Brady had the three lowliest WRs in the league trying to get open for him, and you are getting somewhere. And no running game.

People always talk about Marty ball being so lame, yet Marty has managed to expose us badly every single time we have played them. If your theory is correct, then Marty has come up with another blueprint to get to Brady.

It used to be by shutting down Twig.

You need a little cheese with that whine. When you seriously overthrow or underthrow receivers it's the quarterbacks fault.

When it's the receivers wrong cut, they get the glare from Tom.

When Brady blows it, he puts both hands on his helmet as if to say "it was there, I blew it."

I've seen a lot of that this year. Of course it's difficult breaking in new receivers.

It's also fantastic that 2 of them are performing so well.

Why not compare them to the great Chargers WRs?

Brady's the best, but he's not Superman. The passing game is going pretty well, so why not quit the whining and watch the games?

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Look, I love Brady. At least as much as you I am sure. But he's not perfect and he lets things bother him. That doesn't make him less than great, it just makes him less than perfect - and, by the way, he is less than perfect.

You claim he lets things bother him MORE than other QBs (on another thread), and you would be 100% wrong on that.

He is a winner, and he manages to win where all the other QBs can't pull it out. That is his whole well earned reputation, and it is truly a joke to see a Pats fan not understand that.

You just fail to comprehend what Brady has struggled through this season, from start to finish.

Yeah, he rushed his throws in the Chargers game. Yeah, he hasn't been on the same page as his offense this year at times. That is not a reflection on him being 'bothered' by things. It means he has faced a lot of challenges, for reasons we have discussed already. And he is doing as well as any QB could be expected to, if you stop and look at the circumstances.

Saying that he isn't perfect is a red herring. You said that he is more bothered than other QBs. Like which QBs do you refer to that are less bothered than him? What QB would have done better this year on this Pats team? Or maybe in 2001? How about 2003? Remember that year? Dislocated shoulder, bursa sack injury to elbow, no running game at all, bad pass protection, toughest schedule.

What QB is mentally tougher and less bothered than Brady? You claim they all are.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

You need a little cheese with that whine. When you seriously overthrow or underthrow receivers it's the quarterbacks fault.

When it's the receivers wrong cut, they get the glare from Tom.

When Brady blows it, he puts both hands on his helmet as if to say "it was there, I blew it."

I've seen a lot of that this year. Of course it's difficult breaking in new receivers.

It's also fantastic that 2 of them are performing so well.

Why not compare them to the great Chargers WRs?

Brady's the best, but he's not Superman. The passing game is going pretty well, so why not quit the whining and watch the games?

Why don't you try and pay attention. You are putting facts out there that support the truth of the situation as I see it and then telling me I am wrong. Fact is that Brady has turned some bums off the street into the top WRs in the playoffs and that Brady is doing okay himself. Which is in support of me saying that Brady is doing fine.