Would YOU fire Marty?

[Seymour93]

If it were any other coach I would agree. But Marty Schottenheimer has been doing this FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS. This is what he doesn. It's not a coincidence. He can't get it done.

This was the first season that the Chargers were expected to, at least, reach the SB. He didn't make it. It's disappointing but he's helped bring life to a once morbid franchise. They've got talent and further years to accomplish their goals. The players like him too.

As Ron Burgundy would say, "Agree to disagree."

 

[zippo59]

This was the first season that the Chargers were expected to, at least, reach the SB. He didn't make it. It's disappointing but he's helped bring life to a once morbid franchise. They've got talent and further years to accomplish their goals. The players like him too.

As Ron Burgundy would say, "Agree to disagree."

I absolutely understand what you are saying, but making them a good team is all Schottenheimer can do. He is 5-13 in the postseason and is the coach with the most regular season wins to never make a Superbowl appearance. I think if the Chargers want to take the next step they need to look elsewhere.

 

[PatsMyBoyz!]

So should the Chargers fire Marty? Yes. If their aim is to win the Superbowl.

That pretty much sums it up.
Also,in addition to what happened Sunday,that playoff record shows there's just something weirdly wrong somewhere.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Fire him. Giving LT the ball only 8 times in the 2nd half was inexcusable. Following up a 1st down run of 5 yards with two (incomplete) passes on their penultimate possession was ridiculous. The guy was so concerned about his Martyball reputation that he turns it on his head *with no rhyme or reason*. Instead of passing because the Pats were stuffing the run, he passed for the sake of passing. What is that crap?

Regards,
Chris

 

[Patters]

Marty is a damn good coach. The vast majority of coaches don't get to the Superbowl, and a similarly small number get 14-2 seasons. Can't fire Marty unless you can find someone better, but there aren't many out there.

 

[PatsMyBoyz!]

Fire him. Giving LT the ball only 8 times in the 2nd half was inexcusable. Following up a 1st down run of 5 yards with two (incomplete) passes on their penultimate possession was ridiculous. The guy was so concerned about his Martyball reputation that he turns it on his head *with no rhyme or reason*. Instead of passing because the Pats were stuffing the run, he passed for the sake of passing. What is that crap?

Regards,
Chris

His underuse of LT, I still can't figure that one out. He's one of the players that got you there to begin with,so play him. He's a beast.

 

[fillylabinga]

I think Marty has earned at least another season. A lot has been made of his terrible postseason record, but it's not like he was 5-13 in playoff games with the Chargers.

What he did coaching other teams is irrelevant to his current situation. It would be like Kraft dumping BB for something he did coaching the Browns.

Marty should be given the benefit of the doubt that he can learn something from this failure and be a better coach next time...just like BB learned from his failures in Cleveland.

Of course, if he screws up a bye again next year...

 

[zippo59]

I think Marty has earned at least another season. A lot has been made of his terrible postseason record, but it's not like he was 5-13 in playoff games with the Chargers.

What he did coaching other teams is irrelevant to his current situation. It would be like Kraft dumping BB for something he did coaching the Browns.

Marty should be given the benefit of the doubt that he can learn something from this failure and be a better coach next time...just like BB learned from his failures in Cleveland.

Of course, if he screws up a bye again next year...

This analysis draws no parallel. Bill Belichick coached for a a few years with the Browns, won one playoff game, and lost one. He also won two Superbowls as a coordinator. What Marty has been doing as stretched over 20 years with four different teams. Failure over a short period in one situation is not the same thing as failure over a long period in many situations.

 

[PatsMyBoyz!]

This analysis draws no parallel. Bill Belichick coached for a a few years with the Browns, won one playoff game, and lost one. He also won two Superbowls as a coordinator. What Marty has been doing as stretched over 20 years with four different teams. Failure over a short period in one situation is not the same thing as failure over a long period in many situations.

Exactly. If you hire a person with a long history of failure to run your business,hoping that given all the right personnel the person will make it succeed but still that person doesn't,then it's obvious where the problem lies. Whether you fire that person or not is another issue,but you don't keep him based just on hope that all lessons were learned and suddenly 20 years will be erased after one game. I don't disrespect Marty,he's been around a long time and is a good coach,but it's pretty obvious by now that something's missing.
It's sad that after all those years,not winning in the playoffs seems to be what he'll be remembered for.

 

[Richter]

You cannot fire a 14-2 coach. Period.

Actually, you can. You call him into your office and say, "You're fired." It's not hard. Of course, I would have fired him a long time ago if I owned the Chargers. Actually, I never would have hired him. He's a big fraud.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

My apologies for screwing up the title/poll . . . I didn't notice until just now (when it's too late to edit ).

 

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

14-2 this season . . . but 0-1 when it really counts. He's 5-13 in his career.

If you were the GM/owner of the Chargers, would you give him a second chance?

Absolutely not.

It's obvious that Marty injects his past-demons into his teams in the playoffs, and it's showing.

The Chargers lost the exact same way his Chiefs did(when they were the #1 seeds in '95 and '97)-bad playcalling, bone-headed penalties, poor ST play, boneheaded decisions, etc.

The Chargers just looked like they were playing scared on Sun.

 

[nukin]

I'm in the DC area, and they had him in town coaching the 'Skins a couple of years. As I recall, took them to the playoffs once, maybe not even that. But basically, he was increasing their win totals.

Washington's answer? Fire shotty. He can't win the big games.

Now Washington is watching at home again. Sure they went last year, but with Shotty and some stability, Snyder would basically have had a Chargers-like team by now.

Yanno what? Worry about not winning the big ones when you're consistently playing in the big ones. Worry about getting there and staying there first.

Shottenheimer racks up regular season wins, and eventually will probably get that big game monkey off his back. Don't pull the plug on him yet.

Wow. Pull the plug... is that like "lights out"?

PFnV

I to live in the DC area, and my Papa is a big time skins fan - Him and everyone he knew HATED snotty - I used to have to hear how horrible he was of a coach, and yadda yadda.

 

[p8ryts]

Marty is a great coach. The Charger players were pitiful Sunday. Eric Parker was unable to handle the ball. Rivers made a couple costly mistakes. Chargers were immature and didn't know how to handle success. And oh by the way, there were some pretty good plays by Brown, Colvin, Vrabel, Samuels, Gaffney, Caldwell, Brady and the offensive line.

Maybe the GM should give Marty players that aren't druggies and hot dogs and just plain football players. How much improved would they have been Sunday if Drew Brees was behing center?

 

[jacksonfan]

I would absolutely fire Marty. He may be a good coach during the regular season, but the objective is to win a superbowl, and Marty will never get you there. Why stick with a guy who you know can never win it all? Fire him, and bring in the best guy you can.

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

if your goal is to simply make the playoffs every year then keep him. if your goal is to win a superbowl you give him the ax.

my goal would be to win a title, so i voted to fire hire.

(then again, a monkey may be able to coach that team to the playoffs for the next few years. fire him regardless.)

 

[JoeSixPat]

You cannot fire a 14-2 coach. Period.

That was my strong feeling before the game. But then I watched as his decisions really cost his team a chance to win.

I thought his past record and past mistakes were very much a string of bad luck - as luck does often play a role.

But watching him at that game - making some very poor decisions - even deciding NOT to wear a headset so that everyone could see that he was delegating authority - and therefore responsibility - to his coordinators... putting him a position where he couldn't communicate with his replay watchers to know that he shouldn't have blown a time out on the Troy Brown strip

All of that tells me that Marty himself is spooked by his own playoff record and can't be trusted to take his team to the top

14-2, 15-1, 16-0 .... it might as well be 2-14 as the end result is the same... no Super Bowl Ring

Let him go.