CHARGERS Safety Steve Gregory to visit Pats

[Deus Irae]

I hardly consider someone coming to visit the Pats to be the Pats chasing them. You act like they can't be in contact with more than one FA at a time.

Yes, that's exactly it. The team that has signed nobody, unless they finalized the deal with their own ST player, is all about multitasking with the better players in the league.

Come on, now. They're bargain shopping already. That's fine, but let's not be foolish as fans enough to buy into Steve Gregory.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Gregory blows

I for one will not ask just how you know this

 

[BradyFTW!]

Yes, that's exactly it. The team that has signed nobody, unless they finalized the deal with their own ST player, is all about multitasking with the better players in the league.

Come on, now. They're bargain shopping already. That's fine, but let's not be foolish as fans enough to buy into Steve Gregory.

To be fair, it's not like there are splashes to be made at safety. Landry's probably the best one left, and the Pats are apparently currently pursuing him.

 

[Deus Irae]

Really? Why?

I'm not going to get in depth about this, so I'll just leave it as my personal opinion. You can check the Charger forums. Here's an OP from one of them:

The departure of Gregory into the free agency pool has left the bolts with a hole to fill. While Gregory represented the lowest level of competence, finding an upgrade should not be difficult...

Solving the Safety Issue: - The Official San Diego Chargers Forum

 

[Sicilian]

Yes, that's exactly it. The team that has signed nobody, unless they finalized the deal with their own ST player, is all about multitasking with the better players in the league.

Come on, now. They're bargain shopping already. That's fine, but let's not be foolish as fans enough to buy into Steve Gregory.

I'm not saying Gregory is any great shakes, but come on. Bringing him in for a visit doesn't mean they're prioritizing him.

 

[The_Riddler]

Not just Gregory, Pats are looking at LaRon Landry also

Patriots eyeing up the safety position | National Football Post

 

[Deus Irae]

Not just Gregory, Pats are looking at LaRon Landry also

Patriots eyeing up the safety position | National Football Post

Per a league source, four teams are interested in the sixth pick in the 2007 draft, whose rookie deal with the Redskins expired Tuesday. The candidates are the Jets, Eagles, Lions, and Patriots.

LaRon Landry has four suitors | ProFootballTalk

 

[signbabybrady]

Isn't Landry a SS? If you've seen him recently, he's almost the size of a LB now. I'm sure a Chung/Landry backfield would be great against the run but struggle against the pass.

If we had anything at safety last year to pair with Chung then I would not like this so much but we had nothing. Also you responded to my statement about two players by pointing out the weakness' of one while ignoring thats the others strength.

Not sure how anyone can sit there and not think that Landry is an upgrade over Ihedibo and seeing as we had a CB filling the coverage safety role not sure how anyone can sit there and say that Gregory is not an upgrade?

Bottom line is we are kicking the tires on a couple of players who are better than what we had at their positions last year.

Juxtapose that with what would have made everyone happy replacing either Carter or Anderson with Williams would have made everyone happy yet Williams may or may not put up double digits sacks but certainly would cost ten times that of Carter or Anderson last year.

Dont get me wrong I would have been as siked as anyone to get Mario but that doesnt mean I cant be happy about plugging what I considered our biggest hole even if that plug is average it is still better that the seive of a plug we had last year.

 

[ATippett56]

Gregory - No
Landry - No
Richard Marshall - Yes

 

[JackBauer]

Gregory - No
Landry - No
Richard Marshall - Yes

I would say yes to all three of those players.

I don't really care for Landry, but I assume the coaching staff will utilize him in a role that will suit his skill set.

 

[AzPatsFan]

Color me unimpressed. I think I'd rather address issue through the draft.

Hand the man a cigar. The Belichcik MO is precisely that, get a vet FA and also draft someone, and thirdly sign a couple of UDFAs at the position too...

 

[AzPatsFan]

I don't get Landry. Too much of a SS who's biggest weakness is in coverage. Not exactly what we need at safety. Not to mention the injury issues and the contract it would take to get him.

Seems to me Chung missed half a season as a SS. They maybe are interviewing Landry as a sub SS, and part time, in the box player, in some situations. Belichick is THE situation substitute Coach...

 

[Joey007]

I say sign both. Then at Safety we could have Chung, Landry, Chung, possibly Ihedigbo as a backup, maybe even draft a guy. That's a pretty good core a safety. And if Landry goes down, McCourty or Gregory can fill in. I also hear Gregory can play corner as well.

 

[Urgent]

Agree that the need is really at coverage safety.
One big problem with the corners was lack of safety help on the inside - both diagnosing plays and getting there quickly.

There are maybe four or five free safeties you would consider as upgrades - that's it.
Markelle Martin, Oklahoma State - maybe second round
Trenton Robinson, Michigan State - third
Christian Thompson, South Carolina State - Day Three
Aaron Henry, Wisconsin - Day Three
Neiko Thorpe, Auburn - Day Three

And not a lot of big corners you would consider converting.

 

[signbabybrady]

Agree that the need is really at coverage safety.
One big problem with the corners was lack of safety help on the inside - both diagnosing plays and getting there quickly.

There are maybe four or five free safeties you would consider as upgrades - that's it.
Markelle Martin, Oklahoma State - maybe second round
Trenton Robinson, Michigan State - third
Christian Thompson, South Carolina State - Day Three
Aaron Henry, Wisconsin - Day Three
Neiko Thorpe, Auburn - Day Three

And not a lot of big corners you would consider converting.

It seems you are just refering to the draft but I will make a blanket statement about all free agents and Rookies. We did not have a coverage safety last year, we had a couple of in the box safeties, a couple of CBs playing safety, and one STer pretending to be safety (Sergio), so by default any coverage safety is an upgrade.

I am all for throwing as much mud against the wall as we can and see what sticks.
Come TC safety should consist of -
Chung
Landry
Ihedibo
Gregory
Draft Pick (perferably from one of the first 3 rounds)
UDFA
Sergio
Any other free agent we can find.

Bring em all in and take the best four or 5 out of camp. no reason the above wouldnt be better than this year.

 

[zipster9]

Re: Patriots to host Safety Steve Gregory

He's not Sergio Brown, so I like it

If he replaces Sergio. All the better..

 

[Ivan]

BB's job, make the team better. This guy is no stud but is better than a few of the stumps we have listed on the 2011 roster in the safety position, assuming he plays STs.

Yep, and what so many simply fail to understand is that Belichick is looking at the really big picture, not just the really expensive shiny baubles that always pop up at the beginning of free agency every year. He is looking at every unit, it's strengths and weaknesses, coming contracts and who they will be able to keep going forward and who they need to upgrade from. He is looking at the overall free agent market and the whole draft and where they can most likely upgrade in each. Failure to sign the biggest names at absurd prices on the first day of free agency is the mark of a smart personnel man who is dealing from a position of strength and not of weakness.

Like most I would love Mario Williams or another big impact player but the bottom line, at least from everything I can tell, is that Belichik is going to use every avenue available to him to upgrade the whole team from where they ended the season, and once again they will be one of the best teams in the league and will be in that same position of strength once again next offseason.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Re: Patriots to host Safety Steve Gregory

If he replaces Sergio. All the better..

Sergio Brown should never see the field as a safety or CB again unless a natural catastrophe happens. Even then I'd have to think hard on it.

But to be fair, he is one of the best special teams players on the Pats roster. I hope he stays awhile in that role.

 

[The Scrizz]

Gregory - No
Landry - No
Richard Marshall - Yes

Gregory is a backup-depth guy any way you look at it. The Chargers fans who are ****ting on him have obviously never had to watch Sergio Brown start for their team.

Landry seems like he just got too damn big and that's why he's getting hurt. I'd take him for the Big Nickel but I don't see the point of paying big money to a guy who can't cover. I hope the Jets waste their meager cap space on this guy so I can watch him running 10 yards behind Hernandez.

Richard Marshall is a much better version of Gregory. Versatile CB/FS. And he's visiting the Dolphins. F them. Bring him in.

 

[futuristicdart]

Re: Patriots to host Safety Steve Gregory

Landry isn't looking like a safety anymore. More like a bodybuilder. I doubt this size is even useful in the NFL.