Eric Mangini on the B.S. Report

[letekro]

Just curious....What was Mangini supposed to do? He knows what the Pats are up to....He knows the Patriots gain advantage by taping...He knows the league stated teams MUST put an end to it. So what was Mangini supposed to do ....ignore it? i wouldn't have ignored it. The Pats were breaking the rules on his home field....hell no...I would have put a stop to it..just like he did

Agree completely and there is no way he couldn've foreseen the sh*tstorm it caused. Mangini was not part of the good old boy network that would look the other way and expect the same treatment in return. He was an outsider, young, ambitious, without baggage, and sought to obtain every advantage he could. Who can fault him for that? If your former boss/mentor is your competitor and he is doing something illegal that is harming you, you have every right to try to stop it. If you don't, you're a sucker.

 

[Clonamery]

Agree completely and there is no way he couldn've foreseen the sh*tstorm it caused. Mangini was not part of the good old boy network that would look the other way and expect the same treatment in return. He was an outsider, young, ambitious, without baggage, and sought to obtain every advantage he could. Who can fault him for that? If your former boss/mentor is your competitor and he is doing something illegal that is harming you, you have every right to try to stop it. If you don't, you're a sucker.

So he's a naive, sh*thead who wasn't taping things himself? Fine, he's a naive, sh*thead. And so are you for believing he's a naive sh*thead.

 

[Koma]

Just curious....What was Mangini supposed to do? He knows what the Pats are up to....He knows the Patriots gain advantage by taping...He knows the league stated teams MUST put an end to it. So what was Mangini supposed to do ....ignore it? i wouldn't have ignored it. The Pats were breaking the rules on his home field....hell no...I would have put a stop to it..just like he did

He could have handled it the exact same way other team's had handled it in the past: Had the camera man removed, which is what the Patriots did to Mangini's camera guy the year before.

The difference was that Mangini went to the league before that game and let them know what the Patriots were up to and what he planned to do. That's why NFL security was there to interrogate Estrella in the stadium and confiscate the camera instead of hearing about it after the game.

Mangini certainly had the right to take action. He had been on the receiving end of it in the recent past, but the way he chose to handle it upped the ante in the situation.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

He could have handled it the exact same way other team's had handled it in the past: Had the camera man removed, which is what the Patriots did to Mangini's camera guy the year before.

The difference was that Mangini went to the league before that game and let them know what the Patriots were up to and what he planned to do. That's why NFL security was there to interrogate Estrella in the stadium and confiscate the camera instead of hearing about it after the game.

Mangini certainly had the right to take action. He had been on the receiving end of it in the recent past, but the way he chose to handle it upped the ante in the situation.

I remember Jonathan K saying on the radio one day that a few teams did the same thing in their building (not sure if the Jets were one of them) and they just told them to leave, and didnt rat on them to the league. The Jets could have and should have done the same thing.

 

[Koma]

tobias funke,
I apologize for contributing to the derailment of this thread. I did take the time to listen to the podcast and agree that it was worth a listen. I agree with the criticism about Mangini being noncommittal on some answers, like the Patriots acquiring Mike Wallace. He is right, though, that it depends on how Wallace fits the system. It's a dull answer, but we've seen "good" receivers like Ochocinco and Galloway come in here recently and not be able to contribute.

I also have to say that Simmons' voice is much less nasally than I remember it. That also helped to make it a good listen.

 

[tobias funke]

Gronkandez: I thought I heard him reference a meeting between Tannenbaum + Johnson where they agreed that Favre was a 'temporary fix', and the 'all in' was when they signed a number of free agents, including Favre.

MoLewis: In the podcast, Mangini actually references how, after he became a head coach, he would realize "oh, that's why Bill did this" even though he didn't agree with him at the time.

Koma: I've been thinking the same things about Wallace (and other FA WRs). It also makes me wonder how something like that is going to figure into Manning's decision on where to sign. What's the guarantee that he'll be able to go to a team with an offense that is ready to take on his style of play? Obviously having Wayne in a package deal would help a lot, but that's not guaranteed, and even if it was, you need more than that. And considering his age, he also needs an O-line he can trust, otherwise he'll be out of the league faster than Gregg Williams.

 

[Gronkandez]

tobias funke,
I apologize for contributing to the derailment of this thread. I did take the time to listen to the podcast and agree that it was worth a listen. I agree with the criticism about Mangini being noncommittal on some answers, like the Patriots acquiring Mike Wallace. He is right, though, that it depends on how Wallace fits the system. It's a dull answer, but we've seen "good" receivers like Ochocinco and Galloway come in here recently and not be able to contribute.

I also have to say that Simmons' voice is much less nasally than I remember it. That also helped to make it a good listen.

Yes, he's right but that's information we all knew already. Since he was a coach on the team he should be able to give valuable insight that either a) Wallace is a good fit and is worth the draft pick and price tag or b) Wallace isn't a good fit and the Pats should look elsewhere.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Yes, he's right but that's information we all knew already. Since he was a coach on the team he should be able to give valuable insight that either a) Wallace is a good fit and is worth the draft pick and price tag or b) Wallace isn't a good fit and the Pats should look elsewhere.

Our own coaches can't seem to figure that out, so not sure why Mangini would be.

 

[Gronkandez]

Our own coaches can't seem to figure that out, so not sure why Mangini would be.

Just because he may not be correct doesn't mean it wouldn't be interesting to hear his opinion. Isn't that the point?

 

[dhamz]

Who cares what this guy has to say? He's a fraud. I won't even waste my time.

Agreed - Simmons is a waste of time.

 

[robbomango]

Sounded like Mangini was having a blast playing Yoda with Simmons,...painful.
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[Dragda]

I listened to it last night and debated about starting a thread. I thought he was awful. Here is a paraphrased transcript.

I thought it was good. Worth a listen.

 

[Dragda]

I remember Jonathan K saying on the radio one day that a few teams did the same thing in their building (not sure if the Jets were one of them) and they just told them to leave, and didnt rat on them to the league. The Jets could have and should have done the same thing.

I've read several other coaches saying they can't think of more obvious disregard for league rules than spygate

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I've read several other coaches saying they can't think of more obvious disregard for league rules than spygate

It's not like they could be envious and jealous of BB's kicking their team's asses for over a decade, could it? Nah!

 

[Joker]

jealousy is ALWAYS a top motivation in any human interaction set