Reggie Wayne on Playing in New England: 'Who Wouldn't Want to Play There?'

[borg]

If Welker somehow leaves for big $, Lloyd and Wayne for 9 million would be a good backup plan.

Also, yes, Welker is miles better than Edelman, but he could be the slot WR. I still remember rookie Edelman pulling crazy moves on the Jets and Texans.

NoCatchO made $6 mill....why do you think superior WRs would settle for less?
the 2011

 

[bucky]

The commentators usually say the receivers have to be smart because they have to adjust based on what the receiver and Manning sees, sometimes you see a Colts receiver take a different route to what Manning thought they would too.

The Colts' offense is similar in the sense that the WRs adjust their routs based on the coverages they get. However, the Colts use minimal formations and little shifting. Most of the plays, Wayne would line up in the same spot. So that would be the one question about any Colts WR coming into this offense.

 

[DonBlackmon55]

6000 yards, 54 passing TDs, MVP for TB

enough money left to upgrade the D though?

As strange as it may sound, it would not shock me that Pats sign BOTH Lloyd and Wayne if the window is there. I personally prefer a guy like Colston but he will cost $$$$$

Figure 6mill each for Wayne and Lloyd is better than 10mill on another one, and another useless 2nd rounder of 3rd round WR bust. Use the Draft to revamp the Defensive front 4 and Secondary.

Wayne made 6.5mill last year.

We're in the final lap of Brady's Career, its either now or never (2-3 years). Who the heck cares about how many picks we pile up in 2013, 2014, 2016.....and of cap issues 2014 and beyond. The Cap is going to goto 160mill in 2014 by which time Brady will have turned 37 and MAYBE, just MAYBE ready to pass the baton to a Mallett, or Mallett could be another Kevin O'Connell

BB needs to pull the trigger, penny pinching now will waste whats left of Brady, and the next Patriots QB could be a good one or a bust, and all those picks then will mean squat. Enough of these crap WR picks in the draft, or useless over the hill Stinko type; and Branch is no Reggie Wayne !

Lloyd/Colston-Wayne-Welker

Just Do it !

 

[patsinthesnow]

NoCatchO made $6 mill....why do you think superior WRs would settle for less?
the 2011

The FA WR market is loaded with younger, slightly better WRs then them. Vincent Jackson, Desean Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, Wes Welker, Marques Colston, Pierre Garcon, Laurent Robinson,Stevie Johnson.

I can't see Lloyd or Wayne making more than 6 mil with all those names.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Why does he HAVE to take a cut? How much money was left on the table this past year? The adherence to "value" seems to trump all else, even Rings! They key is how much a player is worth...to the Patriots. Given the complete inability to operate outside the numbers, I would think the value of guys like Lloyd and Wayne would be high, especially when coupled with the closing window of opportunity on the TB/BB era. This group would give them the ability to draft solely for Defense, bolstering a young group which, as it develops, will allow for a smoother transition to the next (Josh McDaniels/Ryan Mallet?) era Offense to take shape.

In a capped league with unrestricted free agency in 5 years or less, adherence to value is what gets you to 5 superbowls in an 11 year span. So does not thinking in terms of windows but rather always adhering to sound long term goals and principles. While this team has contingency transition plans in place at all times, it doesn't contemplate having to implement them in the forseeable future. Which is why they won't change their core philosophy of being long term investors as opposed to incessant window shoppers who can't withstand the urge to make the splashy short term purchase only ultimately to find themselves coming up consistently short and backed into a financial corner that doesn't allow them to do what is best for the organization long term at all times. Like the JETS. Why people want them to be something other than what they are is beyond me...

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I know it sounds crazy - but I think too many people think Welker being back is a foregone conclusion.

Welker is more concerned with winning than with getting every available dollar.

If he were, God forbid, to leave, it's far more likely he'd go to a contending team with a great QB than anything else. Would you want to see him end up a Packer? I sure as heck wouldn't.

 

[rivers983]

Welker is more concerned with winning than with getting every available dollar.

If he were, God forbid, to leave, it's far more likely he'd go to a contending team with a great QB than anything else. Would you want to see him end up a Packer? I sure as heck wouldn't.

Me either - I hope he is back, but I think it's a very real possibility that he might not end up back here next season.

 

[Sivy]

6000 yards, 54 passing TDs, MVP for TB

enough money left to upgrade the D though?

wont need to..no one can match 60 points a game.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Me either - I hope he is back, but I think it's a very real possibility that he might not end up back here next season.

What I stated above is the reason why Welker will be back: he's playing at such a high level right now that the cost of replacing him would outweigh any benefits.

 

[Ring 6]

6000 yards, 54 passing TDs, MVP for TB

enough money left to upgrade the D though?

And lose the SB because the other team drives 89 yards in 1:43 to win the game at the gun,

 

[DaBronxPats14]

As strange as it may sound, it would not shock me that Pats sign BOTH Lloyd and Wayne if the window is there. I personally prefer a guy like Colston but he will cost $$$$$

BB needs to pull the trigger, penny pinching now will waste whats left of Brady, and the next Patriots QB could be a good one or a bust, and all those picks then will mean squat. Enough of these crap WR picks in the draft, or useless over the hill Stinko type; and Branch is no Reggie Wayne !

Lloyd/Colston-Wayne-Welker

Just Do it !

Line It Up 5 Across.........
Lloyd/Colston/Wayne/Welker/AHern OR Gronk

Grab Forte & Plax For Shatz & Giggles

Add Proven Shut Down/Close to CB,&S,&Pass Rusher

Make Next 2-3 Years Over'da Top TB/BB Combo!

 

[ivanvamp]

Didnt get to see much of Wayne last year.

Is there anything left in the tank?

Just last year he put up a 111 rec, 1355 yd, 12.2 ypc, 6 td season.

This past year, with a bunch of schmoes at QB instead of Peyton Manning, he put up this line: 75 rec, 960 yds, 12.8 ypc, 4 td.

So the difference in stats are all volume-related, not rate-related, and that can be attributed to having no Manning.

He is very familiar with a system with lots of line checks and coverage reads and options, so he should adapt quickly to the Pats' offense, should he indeed come here.

$20 million under the cap, before cuts.

(1) Cut Ocho. Save $6 million. Now you have $26 million.

(2) Two-year, $14 million for Welker - $7 mil per year. Now you have $19 million.

(3) Two-year, $8 million for Wayne - $4 mil per year. Now you have $15 million.

(4) Two-year, $7 million for Lloyd - $3.5 mil per year. Now you have $11.5 million.

(5) Two-year, $3 million for Connolly - $1.5 mil per year. Now you have $10 million.

Offense:

OL: Light, Mankins, Connolly, Waters, Vollmer, Solder, Cannon
QB: Brady, Mallett
TE: Hernandez, Gronkowski
RB: Woodhead, Ridley, Vereen
WR: Welker, Wayne, Lloyd, Edelman

That's a BIG-TIME load of offensive talent, and plenty of depth in case of injury. They can run all the routes. No team has enough cover guys to match up with all that. None.

Rookies will cost in the neighborhood of $5 million. According to (NFL.com news: Signing status of 2011 NFL Draft first-round picks), picks in the #28-32 range will run about $1.75 million. The Pats are only going to use one of them, and likely trade the other for future picks. I figure their total rookie cost will be in the $5 million range. That leaves you with $5 million. And every single draft pick is on the defensive side of the ball.

That $5 million goes to filling in the roster.

It goes totally against conventional wisdom which says the Pats need to get a couple of big-time defensive free agents. So maybe it's a colossally dumb idea. But remember: the defense improved a LOT over the course of the season, and they're very young. Add in some more 1st and 2nd round defensive talent, give guys like McCourty, Chung, Arrington, Moore, Dowling, etc., another year in the system, and I think the defense will be improved even more.

 

[naF staP]

Welker doesn't play for the money, he won't leave just to get the mighty dollar especially after the drop in the SB. He has a point to prove and he will be back with a chip on his shoulder all season. Expect huge number from Wes this coming season. The Pats need him and they should make him a fair offer to keep him.

Lloyd would be better then Wayne at this point but if they could lock up Welker, get Lloyd and Wayne, and then dump Ocho then I will go ahead and buy my SB tickets now.

 

[Ring 6]

Line It Up 5 Across.........
Lloyd/Colston/Wayne/Welker/AHern OR Gronk

Grab Forte & Plax For Shatz & Giggles

Add Proven Shut Down/Close to CB,&S,&Pass Rusher

Make Next 2-3 Years Over'da Top TB/BB Combo!

Too bad the cap isnt 200 mill

 

[DaBronxPats14]

Too bad the cap isnt 200 mill

lol Exactly

 

[Bella*chick]

Lol, Reggie, you want in?

For the right price, bro, come onnnnnnnn over!

 

[Elijah T.]

This is Reggie Wayne last year.

Look at the route tree he's running.

His understanding of coverage--when to settle, double moves, balance, hand eye coordination.

My only question is who keeps 87 Reggie or Gronk?

Reggie Wayne 2011-12 Highlights [We Made It] - YouTube

 

[Immaculate12]

This is Reggie Wayne last year.

Look at the route tree he's running.

His understanding of coverage--when to settle, double moves, balance, hand eye coordination.

My only question is who keeps 87 Reggie or Gronk?

Reggie Wayne 2011-12 Highlights [We Made It] - YouTube

Gronk because my Yo Soy Fiesta shirt cannot go to the way side so quickly. :lol2:

 

[Deus Irae]

...
(1) Cut Ocho. Save $6 million. Now you have $26 million....

I don't want to get into everything you posted, but Johnson's not a $6 million dollar man this season.

 

[Jangles]

This is Reggie Wayne last year.

Reggie Wayne 2011-12 Highlights [We Made It] - YouTube

Based on that

pass

He looked slow