My offseason wish list

[Keyser Söze]

Given that Brady actually won Super Bowls in years where he was using Patten and Givens as his downfield threats, it's not hyperbole at all.

Didn't realize Brady throwing to Patten and Givens won us those Super Bowls...

 

[Deus Irae]

Didn't realize Brady throwing to Patten and Givens won us those Super Bowls...

Never claimed it was the reason for the wins. Read first, post second....

 

[PatsFanDan]

Mario Williams would be nice but can't imagine the Pats paying him what he will command on the open market.

Calais Campbell may be a cheaper alternative. Any thoughts on him? He's listed at 6'8", 310 lbs. Had 8 sacks last year and he has the ability to block kicks. Also appears to be a solid citizen on and off the field. Not sure he would come east but I would hope the Pats at least kick the tires and give a look.

The other spot the Pats really could use some help at on D is the safety spot. What a mess the safety play was this year, especially while Chung was out. Not much available on FA market. The aforementioned Branch is one option. What do people think about Michael Griffin from Tennessee?

 

[tricktak]

It's being reported that the eagles will franchise desean Jackson and then shop him. He could be a moss like acquisition where you get him for a year and then go from there. He's the type of speedy playmaker they need. A couple of others I'd like to see them look at are cliff avril, who can stand up in a 3-4 and play in a 4-3, Brandon Carr and Early Doucet.

 

[ATippett56]

Mario Williams would be nice but can't imagine the Pats paying him what he will command on the open market.?

Wes Welker and Brandon Lloyd (or wide receiver du jour) will be higher priorities in unrestricted free agency.

Calais Campbell may be a cheaper alternative. Any thoughts on him? He's listed at 6'8", 310 lbs. Had 8 sacks last year and he has the ability to block kicks. Also appears to be a solid citizen on and off the field. Not sure he would come east but I would hope the Pats at least kick the tires and give a look?

Franchise Tag

The other spot the Pats really could use some help at on D is the safety spot. What a mess the safety play was this year, especially while Chung was out. Not much available on FA market. The aforementioned Branch is one option. What do people think about Michael Griffin from Tennessee?

Michael Griffin is overrated and inconsistent. 2012 NFL Draft for free safety needs.

 

[ATippett56]

It's being reported that the eagles will franchise desean Jackson and then shop him. He could be a moss like acquisition where you get him for a year and then go from there. He's the type of speedy playmaker they need.

Desean Jackson is a headcase with a bad attitude.

A couple of others I'd like to see them look at are cliff avril, who can stand up in a 3-4 and play in a 4-3, Brandon Carr and Early Doucet.

The New England Patriots drafted Shawn Crable ahead of Cliff Avril in the 3rd round of the 2008 NFL Draft.

Brandon Carr will most likely cost big bucks.

I thought Early Doucet was a slot receiver?

 

[blackglass3]

It's being reported that the eagles will franchise desean Jackson and then shop him. He could be a moss like acquisition where you get him for a year and then go from there. He's the type of speedy playmaker they need. A couple of others I'd like to see them look at are cliff avril, who can stand up in a 3-4 and play in a 4-3, Brandon Carr and Early Doucet.

Early Doucet? Besides being second or 3rd fiddle to Fitz, I don't know much about him. What makes you like him? What could he bring to the table here? (this is not sarcasm I am actually asking)

 

[tricktak]

Early Doucet? Besides being second or 3rd fiddle to Fitz, I don't know much about him. What makes you like him? What could he bring to the table here? (this is not sarcasm I am actually asking)

Doucet in addition to Jackson, they need more than one wideout. They need one gamechanger like DJax, Lloyd, Bows, Colston or VJax along with another solid receiver like doucet, cotchery, royal or josh Morgan.

 

[eom]

It's being reported that the eagles will franchise desean Jackson and then shop him. He could be a moss like acquisition where you get him for a year and then go from there. He's the type of speedy playmaker they need. A couple of others I'd like to see them look at are cliff avril, who can stand up in a 3-4 and play in a 4-3, Brandon Carr and Early Doucet.

so, you're going to pay malcontent d-jax franchise money and hope to sign him to a 100m contract?

 

[tricktak]

Desean Jackson is a headcase with a bad attitude.

The New England Patriots drafted Shawn Crable ahead of Cliff Avril in the 3rd round of the 2008 NFL Draft.

Brandon Carr will most likely cost big bucks.

I thought Early Doucet was a slot receiver?

They need a great corner like Carr and would come cheaper than grimes, Finnegan or even Carlos Rogers. The Patriots have the money to pay Carr and just because they drafted crable ahead of avril doesn't mean they won't go after him, avril is a different player now and is a cheaper alternative to the Mario Williams or Calais Campbell dream everyone wants.

 

[tricktak]

so, you're going to pay malcontent d-jax franchise money and hope to sign him to a 100m contract?

First of all Jackson will never get a 100 Mill and secondly if the patriots trade for Jackson after the eagles franchise him the pats will have him for one year. So why not take a chance on Him for a year so the patriots can have that gamechanging receiver and maybe Jackson eventually signs long term if it works out.

 

[Deus Irae]

...Michael Griffin is overrated and inconsistent. 2012 NFL Draft for free safety needs.

Lousy year for safeties in the draft...

 

[ctpatsfan77]

C-D. Koppen-I'm guessing a 1 or 2 year deal for Koppen, just as Light signed last year.

OL-D. Connolly-They may not be able to keep him as he showed himself to be a good player around the league. If they re-sign koppen they may not be willing to match what Connolly can get elsewhere in a league with a big need for OL.

I would rather they keep Connolly, who's three years younger.

 

[JackBauer]

Lousy year for safeties in the draft...

Yep. I think you either move McCourty or sign one in FA.

 

[JackBauer]

First of all Jackson will never get a 100 Mill and secondly if the patriots trade for Jackson after the eagles franchise him the pats will have him for one year. So why not take a chance on Him for a year so the patriots can have that gamechanging receiver and maybe Jackson eventually signs long term if it works out.

Because he's a one trick pony with a crappy attitude. No thanks.

 

[Ivan]

I would rather they keep Connolly, who's three years younger.

Tough call but I agree, however I think the Patriots will re-sign Koppen and it is the re-sign of Connolly is the one that is more in doubt.

 

[patsfan13]

Brandon Lloyd I heard is very interested in staying in STL, but either way why do people think he'd be so successful here? .

Wrong on a couple of counts. He loved playing for J McD because he was used to run the entire route tree not just used for the deep ball. He was very successful in our O under McDaniels, both in Denver and St Louis and has said publicly he want to follow Josh, this was said before McD came back to the Pats. From 12/30/2011


Brandon Lloyd plans on following Josh McDaniels – Pro Football Zone

“I can’t even lie about that,” Lloyd said. “I’m tied to McDaniels. He uses me differently than other offensive coordinators used me in my entire career. He uses me as an every-play receiver. The short game, mid-range game, gimmick passes, deep balls.

“I do everything in this offense as opposed to other coordinators who would just run me off as the deep guy; run me off into double coverage and then say I’m not open. So I really like how Josh uses me within the offense. I’m extremely comfortable in the offense. So that is definitely going to be a.

“Probably No. 1 (as a factor),” Lloyd replied. “Because I want to be successful, and I want to earn whatever money I’m making. I want to be used in ways where I feel comfortable and I can be successful. And Josh knows how to do that.”

J McD reaction to Lloyd's comments:

When informed of those comments by Lloyd, McDaniels replied: "I appreciate that, and he knows I feel that way about him, too. I would love to have an opportunity to continue working with him. I think you grow fond of certain players; you grow fond of all of them. But some of 'em you may get closer with than others, and that's definitely true with him.

"Any time you have a chance to work with good people, that play hard, and give you a chance to win, that's the best for everybody."


Read more: Rams' Lloyd will follow McDaniels

I want Lloyd because he is proven he can play very well in this system and WANTS to play in our system. I don't know that about any of the other options.

Some work out in this system like R Moss (for a few years) and WW and mnay others do not (Ocho being the latest).


If we are paying FA $$$$ I want a guy I KNOW can work in this system. I also don't want to give up a pick and $$$$ for a guy when I am not SURE he will work out.

Imagine if we signed Wallace (a guy with all the physical tools) and gave up a #1 and gave him a big contract and it turned out he couldn't pick up the system as happened with Ocho this year it would be fuggin disaster.

 

[Steve102]

First of all Jackson will never get a 100 Mill and secondly if the patriots trade for Jackson after the eagles franchise him the pats will have him for one year. So why not take a chance on Him for a year so the patriots can have that gamechanging receiver and maybe Jackson eventually signs long term if it works out.

Everything I see from this guy, he's a 'me first guy'. All set, pass.