Pressure on the QB

[ivanvamp]

The next week and a half we'll hear a TON about defenses (especially the Giants') getting after the QB. Let's see just how effective each team has been the last 5 games of the season (which is the Giants' win streak):

NYG
at NYJ: NYG: 5 sacks, 7 TFL, 6 QB hits; NYJ: 2 sacks, 7 TFL, 3 QB hits
vs Dal: NYG: 6 sacks, 7 TFL, 7 QB hits; Dal: 2 sacks, 5 TFL, 7 QB hits
vs Atl: NYG: 2 sacks, 5 TFL, 7 QB hits; Atl: 1 sack, 6 TFL, 5 QB hits
at GB: NYG: 4 sacks, 4 TFL, 5 QB hits; GB: 1 sack, 6 TFL, 7 QB hits
at SF: NYG: 3 sacks, 5 TFL, 6 QB hits; SF: 6 sacks, 5 TFL, 12 QB hits

TOTALS:
NYG: 20 sacks, 28 TFL, 31 QB hits
Opp: 12 sacks, 29 TFL, 34 QB hits

NE
at Den: NE: 4 sacks, 5 TFL, 4 QB hits; Den: 2 sacks, 5 TFL, 3 QB hits
vs Mia: NE: 5 sacks, 6 TFL, 8 QB hits; Mia: 4 sacks, 4 TFL, 8 QB hits
vs Buf: NE: 2 sacks, 3 TFL, 4 QB hits; Buf: 4 sacks, 4 TFL, 3 QB hits
vs Den: NE: 5 sacks, 10 TFL, 8 QB hits; Den: 0 sacks, 1 TFL, 2 QB hits
vs Bal: NE: 3 sacks, 5 TFL, 7 QB hits; Bal: 1 sack, 2 TFL, 3 QB hits

TOTALS:
NE: 19 sacks, 29 TFL, 31 QB hits
Opp: 11 sacks, 16 TFL, 19 QB hits

So even though the Pats lost Andre Carter (all-pro, team sack leader), and even though the Giants' D-line is playing out of its mind, during each team's last 5 games, the Giants and Patriots have gotten almost the same exact amount of pressure on the opposing QB. However, the Pats' O-line has yielded far fewer tackles for loss and QB hits than the Giants' O-line has.

Granted, a lot of that was the Giants facing the 49ers, but hey, the Pats had to face a bunch of good sack teams too. Here's where their opponents ranked in terms of sacks:

NYG
NYJ: t17th (35)
Dal: t7th (42)
Atl: t19th (33)
GB: t27th (29)
SF: t7th (42)
AVG: 15.4th (36.2)

NE
Den: t10th (41)
Mia: t10th (41)
Buf: t27th (29)
Den: t10th (41)
Bal: t3rd (48)
AVG: 12th (40.0)

So the Pats' OL yielded less pressure than the Giants' OL did over the last 5 games, despite the Pats facing teams that were better at putting pressure on and getting into the backfield.

In conclusion, as good as the Giants have been at putting pressure on the QB during their awesome 5-game stretch, the Pats have been *JUST AS GOOD* over that same period of time; moreover, the Pats' OLine has been significantly better, especially given the caliber of defenses they've faced over that five game stretch, at keeping opposing pressure at bay.

 

[byfuglien]

Good comparison. Anderson, Wilfork, Ninkovich and co. may feel slighted.

 

[AzPatsFan]

The next week and a half we'll hear a TON about defenses (especially the Giants') getting after the QB. Let's see just how effective each team has been the last 5 games of the season (which is the Giants' win streak):

NYG
at NYJ: NYG: 5 sacks, 7 TFL, 6 QB hits; NYJ: 2 sacks, 7 TFL, 3 QB hits
vs Dal: NYG: 6 sacks, 7 TFL, 7 QB hits; Dal: 2 sacks, 5 TFL, 7 QB hits
vs Atl: NYG: 2 sacks, 5 TFL, 7 QB hits; Atl: 1 sack, 6 TFL, 5 QB hits
at GB: NYG: 4 sacks, 4 TFL, 5 QB hits; GB: 1 sack, 6 TFL, 7 QB hits
at SF: NYG: 3 sacks, 5 TFL, 6 QB hits; SF: 6 sacks, 5 TFL, 12 QB hits

TOTALS:
NYG: 20 sacks, 28 TFL, 31 QB hits
Opp: 12 sacks, 29 TFL, 34 QB hits

NE
at Den: NE: 4 sacks, 5 TFL, 4 QB hits; Den: 2 sacks, 5 TFL, 3 QB hits
vs Mia: NE: 5 sacks, 6 TFL, 8 QB hits; Mia: 4 sacks, 4 TFL, 8 QB hits
vs Buf: NE: 2 sacks, 3 TFL, 4 QB hits; Buf: 4 sacks, 4 TFL, 3 QB hits
vs Den: NE: 5 sacks, 10 TFL, 8 QB hits; Den: 0 sacks, 1 TFL, 2 QB hits
vs Bal: NE: 3 sacks, 5 TFL, 7 QB hits; Bal: 1 sack, 2 TFL, 3 QB hits

TOTALS:
NE: 19 sacks, 29 TFL, 31 QB hits
Opp: 11 sacks, 16 TFL, 19 QB hits

So even though the Pats lost Andre Carter (all-pro, team sack leader), and even though the Giants' D-line is playing out of its mind, during each team's last 5 games, the Giants and Patriots have gotten almost the same exact amount of pressure on the opposing QB. However, the Pats' O-line has yielded far fewer tackles for loss and QB hits than the Giants' O-line has.

Granted, a lot of that was the Giants facing the 49ers, but hey, the Pats had to face a bunch of good sack teams too. Here's where their opponents ranked in terms of sacks:

NYG
NYJ: t17th (35)
Dal: t7th (42)
Atl: t19th (33)
GB: t27th (29)
SF: t7th (42)
AVG: 15.4th (36.2)

NE
Den: t10th (41)
Mia: t10th (41)
Buf: t27th (29)
Den: t10th (41)
Bal: t3rd (48)
AVG: 12th (40.0)

So the Pats' OL yielded less pressure than the Giants' OL did over the last 5 games, despite the Pats facing teams that were better at putting pressure on and getting into the backfield.

In conclusion, as good as the Giants have been at putting pressure on the QB during their awesome 5-game stretch, the Pats have been *JUST AS GOOD* over that same period of time; moreover, the Pats' OLine has been significantly better, especially given the caliber of defenses they've faced over that five game stretch, at keeping opposing pressure at bay.

This is a most illuminating and virtually unknown statistic. The entire Giants Defense is predicated on a performance that is matched by the Patriots Defensive line. The Giants LBs don't compare to the Pats LBs and despite a yawning gap at one Safety position, the Pats secondary is easily better than the Giant secondary.

 

[dogdoctor]

Very nice comparison. Hmmmm

 

[Mack Herron]

The D-line has stepped up, but this is by far the best O-Line we have brought to the show.

 

[AzPatsFan]

NYG: 20 sacks, 28 TFL, 31 QB hits
NE: 19 sacks, 29 TFL, 31 QB hits

NYG: 20 sacks, 28 TFL, 31 QB hits
Opp: 12 sacks, 29 TFL, 34 QB hits
NE: 19 sacks, 29 TFL, 31 QB hits
Opp: 11 sacks, 16 TFL, 19 QB hits



This post ought to be stickied, moderators.

 

[ivanvamp]

In their first meeting, here were the pressure numbers:

NYG: 2 sacks, 2 TFL, 3 QB hits
NE: 0 sacks, 2 TFL, 8 QB hits

So the Pats actually hit Eli more than the Giants hit Brady. But they just couldn't get to him quite in time.

I had originally thought that QB pressure would be a big edge for the Giants, but after running these numbers, I'm not convinced. I would think it's closer to a draw.

 

[Fixit]

You forgot to factor in the VVF (Vince Vengeance Factor). The way that dude played on Sunday, the Pats could have dropped 10 into coverage. And I think he'll be even hungrier against the Giants.

 

[PatsSox363804]

In their first meeting, here were the pressure numbers:

NYG: 2 sacks, 2 TFL, 3 QB hits
NE: 0 sacks, 2 TFL, 8 QB hits

So the Pats actually hit Eli more than the Giants hit Brady. But they just couldn't get to him quite in time.

I had originally thought that QB pressure would be a big edge for the Giants, but after running these numbers, I'm not convinced. I would think it's closer to a draw.

Unfortunately one of those hits was a strip sack that put us down 10-0. Hopefully if Brady gets sacked this time he doesnt fumble.

Very encouraged by our defensive numbers here though. Our offensive line is superior to theirs and it will be funny to read the media spin if we win and our defensive line outplays theirs.

 

[Fixit]

Our offensive line is superior to theirs and it will be funny to read the media spin if we win and our defensive line outplays theirs.

Spygate?
System QB?
Belicheat?
Government conspiracy?

So many to choose from!

 

[ivanvamp]

You forgot to factor in the VVF (Vince Vengeance Factor). The way that dude played on Sunday, the Pats could have dropped 10 into coverage. And I think he'll be even hungrier against the Giants.

I do think he needs to have a huge game, both as a run-stopper and as a guy that can push the pocket up the middle.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

This type of research is to be applauded.

That's why I come here rather than the constant media drivel about how the Patriots can't win this.

 

[Observer]

Despite all these stats and facts, we have already lost to them once. We better be prepared to play much better than the last time in order to win.

 

[PatsSox363804]

Despite all these stats and facts, we have already lost to them once. We better be prepared to play much better than the last time in order to win.

Obviously we can't turn it over 4 times and expect to win, nor can we give them a first and goal at the 1 due to PI.

 

[makoute]

Obviously we can't turn it over 4 times and expect to win, nor can we give them a first and goal at the 1 due to PI.

So we are all in agreement, that the only way Sergio should see the field is on special teams.

 

[TBradyOwnsYou]

All I care is that if someone gets their hands on Eli, they TAKE HIM DOWN!

 

[PatsSox363804]

So we are all in agreement, that the only way Sergio should see the field is on special teams.

indeed. Do you realize that was the only defensive snap he took that game? I just read that and had to laugh.

 

[Fencer]

Well-argued, Sir!