Good Article By Curran This Morning, comparing BB to Steve Jobs

[RobertWeathers]

Finished Steve Jobs biography and as I was reading it I did think of BB a little. Curran picked up on the same thing I did.

I highly doubt BB did LSD or went weeks by eating just carrots

Curran: Through expectations, Belichick's legacy building

Reading the biography of Apple founder Steve Jobs written by Walter Isaacson, I found a paragraph near the end of the book.

It reads, “The nasty edge to his personality was not necessary. It hindered him more than it helped him. But it did, at times, serve a purpose. Polite and velvety leaders, who take care to avoid bruising others, are generally not as effective at forcing change. Dozens of the colleagues who Jobs abused most ended their litany of horror stories by saying that he got them to do things they never dreamed possible. And he created a corporation jammed with 'A' players.”

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Re: Good Article By Curran This Morning

So does the fact that 2007 season was played under the dark cloud of a videotaping scandal. As offenses go, it was the football equivalent of going 95 mph in a 65 zone when you know a cop is sitting there with his radar gun out. Yet the spin turned it from aggravated speeding into coaching treason, in part because the Patriots and Belichick lost control of the narrative and let imaginations and accusations run wild.

It’s a stain and it’s a blight and the nature of things in 2012 is that it is used to discredit Belichick’s legacy while, say, Noll’s record in Pittsburgh with a fleet of ‘roided up stars never comes under the same scrutiny.

Funny how the Steeler whiners always conveniently forget to mention that...

 

[Bella*chick]

Re: Good Article By Curran This Morning

I have such a fascination and admiration for Jobs and people like him. Little wonder i've always loved BB. There are definite parallels.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Re: Good Article By Curran This Morning

I have such a fascination and admiration for Jobs and people like him. Little wonder i've always loved BB. There are definite parallels.

Me too. It's not a job with these guys. It's a passion and a crusade.

I've worked in nothing but start-up software companies reporting to these types of people and as brutal it can get from time to time, because of the passion and conviction they have in their vision, it's pretty inspiring. It's not a job to these guys. It's a passion to innovate, knock conventional thinking on its ***** and make a difference.

Guys like Jobs, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Page & Brin from Google have that same "edge" to them. If you execute on their vision, you are their buddy. If you don't you are in hell.

I tend to think the same things goes on in Foxboro.

 

[ay-yo]

Good article. This quote speaks volumes about the current team and inspires a lot of hope for Sunday

After a win against the Eagles three days after Thanksgiving, Belichick said, "I think our players, yeah, they've given good effort. I think they're trying to do the things we tell them to do. I think sometimes we’ve got to do better and coach better and have things maybe a little cleaner for them, but I think they're trying to do their part in terms of physically and mentally, day after day, week after week, be consistent, be dependable and do what we ask them to do.

“I know we demand a lot and this isn't an easy place to play and I'm not an easy guy to play for, but they have tried to respond. I give them a lot of credit for that,” Belichick concluded.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

It's not posted yet but in his presser this AM Kraft touched upon what it was about Bill that drew them to each other - dating back to 1996. The ability to see beyond the obvious and grasp the big picture. Kraft recalled when he hired Bill he was warned by network heads not to. Just like he was warned by his banker not to buy the parking lots let alone the white elephant single use stadium... And he recalled the media riding him pretty hard for a year and a half about his decision. But he had a long term goal and he could see beyond the immediate or short term effect. So could Bill and they both had the courage of their convictions and a long term goal. Which Kraft articulated again today as making the playoffs consistently.

He was asked about the disappointment of one and done the last two seasons, and he recalled how the team he rooted for as a fan had just one home playoff game during most of his fandom and seasons ended in December. And this team is playing in it's5th championship game since Bill took over in a league geared towards creating competitive balance. Said his sons appreciate that, while his grandkids are probably spoiled. He talked about how Bill sees teambuilding differently, he's not a talent collecter. He pieces teams together like a puzzle made up of value players he believes will suit the schemes he feels gives them the best shot at winning their way to those playoffs every season.

Talent is transient. Schemes endure...and adapt. As do adaptable value players who are wired to win. And that is the goal here, to build something -a system lets call it - that endures as opposed to just amassing talent to apease the the just win now mentality driven window of opportunity shortsighted fans want their teams to view seasons through.

He also said while good organizations always have plans (when asked if he has any succession plans for Belichick...) the things that transpired in his own life this year have taught him to enjoy and appreciate what you have in the present.

 

[jays52]

I have a heck of a lot more respect for Belichick than I do Steve Jobs. Belichick's kid is on his sidelines, Belichick has reverence for great coaches before him, and I'm fairly certain Belichick isn't a figurehead for Ernie Adams' designs. Take from that what you will.

Gates may have based his technology on a stolen DEC OS, but at least he is the world's largest philanthropist.

 

[Patspsycho]

It would be remiss to say that Curran drew a parallel between BB and Jobs. The only thing he said was that Jobs reminded him of BB.

Having worked closely as a media member with Belichick for his entire time in New England, I’m not sure he’s as nasty as Jobs could be. But he can be brusque and intolerant. And he is a control freak of the highest order.

All in all, this is one of Curran's best article- surprisingly well written.

 

[SVN]

as always breer says

AlbertBreer Albert Breer
Really enjoyed this piece from @tomecurran on Belichick's legacy, even if we disagree a bit on the dent Spygate leaves csnne.com/blog/patriots-…


GeorgeCain72 GeorgeCain72
@
@AlbertBreer @tomecurran As long as ideologues like Breer try to tell us Spygate matters.The less credibility that "witch hunt" has.

@GeorgeCain72 You're biased. I'm not. A lot of NFL folks thought NE got off easy. It's over now. But it'll remain a part of his legacy

 

[RobertWeathers]

I have a heck of a lot more respect for Belichick than I do Steve Jobs. Belichick's kid is on his sidelines, Belichick has reverence for great coaches before him, and I'm fairly certain Belichick isn't a figurehead for Ernie Adams' designs. Take from that what you will.

Gates may have based his technology on a stolen DEC OS, but at least he is the world's largest philanthropist.

Steve Jobs has done a lot of great things for people. You just don't know about them and he didn't want you to in the first place.

 

[RobertWeathers]

as always breer says

I still struggle to understand how some people thought that BB, Kraft and the org got off easy.

 

[Uncle Rico]

I still struggle to understand how some people thought that BB, Kraft and the org got off easy.

Bitter opponents, whose opinions Breer blindly gives stock to.

 

[Clonamery]

as always breer says

Breer is just another child trying to act like a grown-up. He was probably sticking out his tongue as he tweeted.

 

[vyrago]

Steve Jobs has done a lot of great things for people. You just don't know about them and he didn't want you to in the first place.

So I take you do know about them?

 

[SVN]

Bitter opponents, whose opinions Breer blindly gives stock to.

if BB gives a one on one interview with breer tommorow he will change his tune.

 

[FalconHeavy]

Steve Jobs has done a lot of great things for people. You just don't know about them and he didn't want you to in the first place.

Really, this I need to know.

 

[Bonzo]

Gates may have based his technology on a stolen DEC OS, but at least he is the world's largest philanthropist.

This is way off topic, but Gates' "Project Tuva" website, featuring annotated videos of Feynman's "Messenger" lectures, is pretty righteous.

Project Tuva

 

[RobertWeathers]

Really, this I need to know.

I know..I know...

I acknowledge the fact that he slashed Apple's philanthropic-related programs which were spun up again by Ross after Sorkin called him out and chose not to join Bill& Warren's foundation but I won't judge him or call him a miser because of it. I'm aware of the criticism hes received.

I do believe that he and his wife gave a ton to schools, hospitals and cancer research facilities under anonymous donations. Large sums ($100-$200m) showed up in the coffers of these institutions without a word or any wanted recognition. Checks would arrive by courier. Thats it.

As you know, Jobs was just a different guy. He absolutely felt that his companies, jobs and technologies that were created WERE his charity and whatever HE BELIEVED Apple, Pixar, etc. couldn't fix, he took care of privately.

Not trying to be a Steve Jobs apologist (hes made his mistakes like alienating his 1st child) but some people operate on a different plane. He was one of them.

 

[Mike the Brit]

It's not posted yet but in his presser this AM Kraft touched upon what it was about Bill that drew them to each other - dating back to 1996. The ability to see beyond the obvious and grasp the big picture. Kraft recalled when he hired Bill he was warned by network heads not to. Just like he was warned by his banker not to buy the parking lots let alone the white elephant single use stadium... And he recalled the media riding him pretty hard for a year and a half about his decision. But he had a long term goal and he could see beyond the immediate or short term effect. So could Bill and they both had the courage of their convictions and a long term goal. Which Kraft articulated again today as making the playoffs consistently.

He was asked about the disappointment of one and done the last two seasons, and he recalled how the team he rooted for as a fan had just one home playoff game during most of his fandom and seasons ended in December. And this team is playing in it's5th championship game since Bill took over in a league geared towards creating competitive balance. Said his sons appreciate that, while his grandkids are probably spoiled. He talked about how Bill sees teambuilding differently, he's not a talent collecter. He pieces teams together like a puzzle made up of value players he believes will suit the schemes he feels gives them the best shot at winning their way to those playoffs every season.

Talent is transient. Schemes endure...and adapt. As do adaptable value players who are wired to win. And that is the goal here, to build something -a system lets call it - that endures as opposed to just amassing talent to apease the the just win now mentality driven window of opportunity shortsighted fans want their teams to view seasons through.

He also said while good organizations always have plans (when asked if he has any succession plans for Belichick...) the things that transpired in his own life this year have taught him to enjoy and appreciate what you have in the present.

I've never met BB, but watching him over the years, it's perfectly obvious that he is obsessive-compulsive -- how far along the spectrum, I don't know. Which is not unusual at all or any big deal among very successful people in many professions -- if you put him into the Economics Department at MIT (or Silicon Valley) no one would bat an eyelid. It is unusual, I guess, among football coaches, many of whom seem to be hyperactive egomaniacs (Rexy, Big Bill, even Mr Pumped and Jacked).

What makes BB so endlessly fascinating (and admirable) is the way that he's taken his strengths and used them while working around his weaknesses. No, he's not the world's greatest communicator and motivator, but that doesn't matter so much. He's built the team so that, when things are going well, it's the players themselves and the spirit of the team that do the job. He's a control freak, yes, but not someone who can't share the stage with others and delegate. And so on ...

The relationship with Mr Kraft is a wonderful example of that. Mr Kraft is clearly a very emotional person and (so Jonathan Kraft says) someone whose business success has been built on his shrewdness in judging characters. His trust in BB and the way that the two complement each other without any struggle for power comes across in the interview today as it did in "A Football Life".

Two great men!

 

[ausbacker]

I still struggle to understand how some people thought that BB, Kraft and the org got off easy.

I'll forever tie the actions of Sheriff Goodell and his merry band of tossers during Superbowl week to the loss of 42. That's not getting off lightly.