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But this past year NE had two double-digit-sack, pass rushers in Carter and Anderson. Two. That's a feat Mario hasn't achieved since 2008.
That's not a knock against Mario. He's great. And versatile. I just can't help but think that we'd be giving up way, way, way too much to adress an area we did just last season -- and adressed it unbelieveably well -- for a fraction of the cost.
Basically, the D has way more needs than just one guy.
It's impressive how many sacks Carter and Anderson got this year. But let's be real...Mario Williams is a different beast and would improve the pass rush in a BIG way. A team's pass rush shouldn't be judged based on the number of sacks. It's about pressure. Sometimes you get the sack, sometimes you don't. But it's the pressure you want.
Would you rather have a pass rush that gets you 2 sacks in a game and no pressure the rest of the game. Or a pass rush that gets no sacks, but is getting consistent pressure, QB hits/hurries throughout the game?
Really, we can't get through the wild card week of the playoffs without this fantasy crap erupting?? Ian should have a fantasy FA forum like the draft forum for year round fantasizing.
Who cares? It's not like there's a plethora of discussion taking place on the main board right now.
If you don't like it, don't read and/or post in the thread. Simple as that.
That being said, NFL.com has him listed as an LB. I haven't seen a single Texans game this year, so I don't know whether he's predominantly being used as a DE or OLB, or what he'd project as in our system. Which would be a pretty significant factor, I think, in determining whether or not we'd want him on board.
When Phillips arrived, they moved Williams from DE to OLB, because they switched to the 3-4.
Who cares? It's not like there's a plethora of discussion taking place on the main board right now.
If you don't like it, don't read and/or post in the thread. Simple as that.
That being said, NFL.com has him listed as an LB. I haven't seen a single Texans game this year, so I don't know whether he's predominantly being used as a DE or OLB, or what he'd project as in our system. Which would be a pretty significant factor, I think, in determining whether or not we'd want him on board.
Actually there is a plethora at the moment, that's the rub...
You are creating a false dichotomy. Both Anderson and Carter were indeed fantastic at creating pressure this season. Their sacks were not just some sort of arbitrary flash in the pan success. They consistently created pressure. Especially when they were out there at the same time.
So yeah, it isn't just the pass rush that's the problem. Paying a boatload for one guy isn't the solution -- especially since he'd be replacing one of the very few guys who wasn't a problem this past year.
When Phillips arrived, they moved Williams from DE to OLB, because they switched to the 3-4.
Who cares? It's not like there's a plethora of discussion taking place on the main board right now.
If you don't like it, don't read and/or post in the thread. Simple as that.
That being said, NFL.com has him listed as an LB. I haven't seen a single Texans game this year, so I don't know whether he's predominantly being used as a DE or OLB, or what he'd project as in our system. Which would be a pretty significant factor, I think, in determining whether or not we'd want him on board.
Really, we can't get through the wild card week of the playoffs without this fantasy crap erupting?? Ian should have a fantasy FA forum like the draft forum for year round fantasizing.
Roger.
Well, if we are planning on the 3-4 next year, I'd say go for it. It's not like we have a litany of talent at OLB as it stands.
Bad front offices and organizations fall in love with players while good organizations remain committed to value. That is a reality in baseball, basketball and football.
I'm not saying you don't pay special players above and beyond the norm, because you do. Julius Peppers was given a huge chunk of change and he lived up to his contract so far. Quarterback contracts can be hard to swallow for general managers and owners, but without a quarterback, a team is lost.
The Texans are in a spot where they must seek out productivity from their outside linebackers at a set amount of dollars. If the Texans can get 80 percent of the productivity that Mario Williams would have given them, but for 70 percent less (and this year seems to suggest just that), then the best Williams can hope for is a one-year audition with the Texans with nothing more than a franchise tag.
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I know I'm making an unfair comparison....
But this past year NE had two double-digit-sack, pass rushers in Carter and Anderson. Two. That's a feat Mario hasn't achieved since 2008.
That's not a knock against Mario. He's great. And versatile. I just can't help but think that we'd be giving up way, way, way too much to adress an area we did just last season -- and adressed it unbelieveably well -- for a fraction of the cost.
Basically, the D has way more needs than just one guy.
Between Troy Brown's bloviating re: the Gillette bumper music and endless speculation about B'OB, I don't know how we'll ever manage to fit this thread in.