Jets players giving up!

[Rob0729]

Let's not write their obituary just yet. Yes, they look horrible. But the Jets have been in this position before, only to go on a late season and postseason run and surprise a few teams. This includes the very embarrassing loss by our own Pats after killing them 45-3 a month earlier.

The last time they were 5-5 is 2009. That year, they backed into the playoffs at 9-7 because of the fact their last two games the opponent gave them the win because they were resting players for the playoffs. I don't think 9-7 will get you in this year and the Jets are not going to face any teams resting for the playoffs this year.

The Jets have a very small chance to get into the playoffs. They almost have to win out because they lose all the tiebreakers with all the Wild Card contenders. One or two other teams are going to get at least 10 wins.

 

[Kontradiction]

The last time they were 5-5 is 2009. That year, they backed into the playoffs at 9-7 because of the fact their last two games the opponent gave them the win because they were resting players for the playoffs. I don't think 9-7 will get you in this year and the Jets are not going to face any teams resting for the playoffs this year.

The Jets have a very small chance to get into the playoffs. They almost have to win out because they lose all the tiebreakers with all the Wild Card contenders. One or two other teams are going to get at least 10 wins.

I know what they have to do to get in. I'm just leery of writing them off at this point. Call it superstition.

 

[Rob0729]

I know what they have to do to get in. I'm just leery of writing them off at this point. Call it superstition.

This Jets team is nothing like the Jets' teams of the previous two years. The Jets of 2010 and 2009 had a great defense, great running game, and great o-line. This year the defense is inconsistent, they don't have a real running game, and their offensive line has been swiss cheese.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Let's not write their obituary just yet. Yes, they look horrible. But the Jets have been in this position before, only to go on a late season and postseason run and surprise a few teams. This includes the very embarrassing loss by our own Pats after killing them 45-3 a month earlier.

Come on Kontra, sing it with me.

Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na
Baby give it up
Give it up
Baby give it up

Can you give it
Can you give it
Give it up
:rocker:

In reality, it all hinges on Sanchez which is what would make a collapse so much sweeter. (Not that I have a problem with Sanchez, I actually love that he's in the division). But, it's all towards Rex and the team having to continue to publically support him or eat crow.

 

[Tunescribe]

This Jets team is nothing like the Jets' teams of the previous two years. The Jets of 2010 and 2009 had a great defense, great running game, and great o-line. This year the defense is inconsistent, they don't have a real running game, and their offensive line has been swiss cheese.

Kontra does have a point, though, in that it's still mathematically possible for the Green Beans to make a playoff run. We need to discipline ourselves to enjoy the coffin nails being applied one at a time.

 

[Deus Irae]

Actually, we want the Jets to win next week. As of right now the Bills hold the tie-breaker over the Pats, while the Patriots hold it over the Jets, based on head-to-head.

In a perfect NFL world, the Dolphins will beat the Bills on Sunday and the Bills will beat the Jets next week.

 

[Uncle Rico]

In a perfect NFL world, the Dolphins will beat the Bills on Sunday and the Bills will beat the Jets next week.

I second this idyllic vision.

 

[Yehoodi]

The last time they were 5-5 is 2009. That year, they backed into the playoffs at 9-7 because of the fact their last two games the opponent gave them the win because they were resting players for the playoffs. I don't think 9-7 will get you in this year and the Jets are not going to face any teams resting for the playoffs this year.

The Jets have a very small chance to get into the playoffs. They almost have to win out because they lose all the tiebreakers with all the Wild Card contenders. One or two other teams are going to get at least 10 wins.

that is the key, they do not have the tiebreaker against Oak, Balt, Den and as 10-6 might not get you in the PO, 10-6 in a conference where you are behind in the tiebeakers is going to be tough . . . unless they win out, they need some help, kind of like circa 2002 where like 100 things had to go just right in the last 3 weeks . ..

 

[Yehoodi]

In a perfect NFL world, the Dolphins will beat the Bills on Sunday and the Bills will beat the Jets next week.

and lets not forget in that perfect world GB looses this weekend to keep our 21 in a row stretch safe :singing:

 

[fxkane]

Gotta go with Bills over Jets, no matter the Bills record. The bottom line is that the division record means ziltch if we have the better record--and can we doubt that. (we might lose one more, but the bills will match that)

 

[Dessalines]

Let's not write their obituary just yet. Yes, they look horrible. But the Jets have been in this position before, only to go on a late season and postseason run and surprise a few teams. This includes the very embarrassing loss by our own Pats after killing them 45-3 a month earlier.

Over the years, the more likely scenario has been a late season collapse, rather than a rally. With Sanchez as Q.B. and the receiver mix he has, they have a problem. The defense is getting too much work to hold up for an entire game, witness last evening.....

 

[Rob0729]

Kontra does have a point, though, in that it's still mathematically possible for the Green Beans to make a playoff run. We need to discipline ourselves to enjoy the coffin nails being applied one at a time.

I don't know. This is not the same Jets team of the previous two years. In the past two years even when they were struggling, you respected or even feared their defense and running game. Now there isn't an aspect of their game that you have to fear because they are not consistent anywhere.

There is always a chance they can turn it around, but I just don't see it. This is the worst team they have fielded in the last three years.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I don't know. This is not the same Jets team of the previous two years. In the past two years even when they were struggling, you respected or even feared their defense and running game. Now there isn't an aspect of their game that you have to fear because they are not consistent anywhere.

There is always a chance they can turn it around, but I just don't see it. This is the worst team they have fielded in the last three years.

Jets are 100% not the same team as the last 2 years. No rushing game and no D that i am afraid of nor are the rest of the league. With that QB and Eric Smith on D..LOL

Yes they could win out..but this team is so up and down. Now they have to play Buffalo at home in 10 days..another tough one

 

[Jackson 2]

They have a very significant problem with their record in terms of a play-off berth: they have five, count 'em, five AFC losses.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

 

[ewg_gestalt]

They have a very significant problem with their record in terms of a play-off berth: they have five, count 'em, five AFC losses.

The conference losses are the Jets' main problem. But in reality, for the rest of us, the real problem is that they have conference wins at all (or any wins, for that matter). . . .

 

[SanAngeloState]

patriots play denver in denver though. Tradiationally a tough game. So we best not get ahead of ourselves.

One thing that I think is that a team like the pats should fly in a few days earlier to get acclimated to the altitude. Even though people say it isn't much of an effect, as in they don't notice it, it still is an effect, especially toward the end of a game. If they were smart they'd sleep at an even higher altitude to better acclimate themselves.

Maybe Revis let Tebow go by b/c he was gasping for breath. You also get a little mentally cloudy too at altitude.

 

[Rob0729]

patriots play denver in denver though. Tradiationally a tough game. So we best not get ahead of ourselves.

One thing that I think is that a team like the pats should fly in a few days earlier to get acclimated to the altitude. Even though people say it isn't much of an effect, as in they don't notice it, it still is an effect, especially toward the end of a game. If they were smart they'd sleep at an even higher altitude to better acclimate themselves.

Maybe Revis let Tebow go by b/c he was gasping for breath. You also get a little mentally cloudy too at altitude.

I expect to see a lot of no huddle in that game. There were plenty of Broncos players getting oxygen last night. I think the Pats will try to use the high altitude to their advantage.

 

[Yehoodi]

patriots play denver in denver though. Tradiationally a tough game. So we best not get ahead of ourselves.

One thing that I think is that a team like the pats should fly in a few days earlier to get acclimated to the altitude. Even though people say it isn't much of an effect, as in they don't notice it, it still is an effect, especially toward the end of a game. If they were smart they'd sleep at an even higher altitude to better acclimate themselves.

Maybe Revis let Tebow go by b/c he was gasping for breath. You also get a little mentally cloudy too at altitude.

yes it is a good idea to fly in early to get use to the air . . . then again the Pats could scrimmage on top of Mount Washington to get used to the mountain air . . . :rocker:

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

If one more person says that Brian Schottenheimer is the worst OC in the league, I'm going to jump out my chair, enter my computer cyber portal, and put that person in a headlock.

Sanchez is garbage. He has a career 70 passer rating and one of the worst completion pcts every year. He has plenty of talent around him; in fact, the Jets talent is right up there with the Pats. Holmes, Edwards/Burress, Mangold, D-Brick, Green, LT, Keller... are you kidding me? All of the tools are there.

Mike Martz- greatest OC of all-time with that Rams team; not so good with Cutler and the Bears and the other failed tenures. Charlie Weiss and Josh McDaniels were both geniuses when Tom Brady was their QB... how are they doing now?

Defensive coordinators are much more valuable, since the defensive formations and strategies dictates how the offense lines up. Offensive coordinators can do very little besides give the QB some good options that he needs to make happen. Sanchez doesn't make it happen. All of these check-downs are either his own decisions because he lacks confidence or are necessary because the coach's don't, and shouldn't, trust him.