You can't disagree with Bedards assessment. The problem lies with how did we get there. Anybody who has ever coached/managed knows that when you are competing at the highest level many elite talented players are head strong, prima dona's and highly selfish. The job of the man at the top is to determine who fits both talent wise as well as personality wise. This is another example of a major failure. We'll have posters say well he didnt cost much. He only cost a future fifth rounder, but AH was supposed to be a fix for a crappy D-line. We see how that worked out.
This is perhaps the worst pass defense in NFL history...if this happened on any other team a lot of people would be losing their jobs. On the Patriots, however, BB obviously dictates who stays and goes and something tells me the same people will be there next fall.
This is why I dont get all the crying from posters here about BB cutting haynesworth.
if he is clearly dogging it out there and not giving an effort, what is the point of keeping him on the team?? what sort of message does that send to other players that are trying hard??
with Brace/Deadrick back we are 5deep at the DT position. I would much rather give the snaps to someone who WANTS to put in the effort.
the Haynesworth acquisition was a low risk high reward signing...it didnt work out..but our defense wont be affected by it
This is perhaps the worst pass defense in NFL history...if this happened on any other team a lot of people would be losing their jobs. On the Patriots, however, BB obviously dictates who stays and goes and something tells me the same people will be there next fall.
This is perhaps the worst pass defense in NFL history...if this happened on any other team a lot of people would be losing their jobs. On the Patriots, however, BB obviously dictates who stays and goes and something tells me the same people will be there next fall.
Didn't I precisely say that the Pats had one of the worst pass defenses in NFL history and not one of the overall teams? Statistically that would be correct too because this group is allowing well over 300 yards per game and no team in NFL history has allowed more than 284 yards/game in a full season.
You can't disagree with Bedards assessment. The problem lies with how did we get there. Anybody who has ever coached/managed knows that when you are competing at the highest level many elite talented players are head strong, prima dona's and highly selfish. The job of the man at the top is to determine who fits both talent wise as well as personality wise. This is another example of a major failure. We'll have posters say well he didnt cost much. He only cost a future fifth rounder, but AH was supposed to be a fix for a crappy D-line. We see how that worked out.
Obviously you know absolutely zero about management.
A much better example is venture capital.
Identify unique opportunities for exceptional success.
Invest with minimal cost.
If successful, enjoy the rewards.
If not, exit and move on.
Had this been Haynes Albertworth, I doubt the story would even make it to profootballtalk based on the dynamics of the deal.
Furthermore, if you are dumb enough to actually think AH was here to "fix" it, there would have been zero need to sign Carter and Ellis. Furthermore, the compensation would have been much greater than a low round pick and a very minimal salary.
Outside of your post, there aren't any major failures here.
Didn't I precisely say that the Pats had one of the worst pass defenses in NFL history and not one of the overall teams? Statistically that would be correct too because this group is allowing well over 300 yards per game and no team in NFL history has allowed more than 284 yards/game in a full season.
The mess on defense. Once again, this defense is easily on pace to become statistically the worst pass defense ever. Normally defensive coordinators get fired for much less. Just look at what happened to the Giants defensive coordinator that replaced Steve Spag and the Eagles guy that followed Jim Johnson. BB is obviously the defensive coordinator here and do you honestly see him giving up on calling the defensive plays sometime this season or even next fall?
The mess on defense. Once again, this defense is easily on pace to become statistically the worst pass defense ever. Normally defensive coordinators get fired for much less. Just look at what happened to the Giants defensive coordinator that replaced Steve Spag and the Eagles guy that followed Jim Johnson. BB is obviously the defensive coordinator here and do you honestly see him giving up on calling the defensive plays sometime this season or even next fall?
Review and post the defensive stats for the Baltimore and New England defenses in back to back weeks in Pittsburgh. Here are the specific info requested:
Yards-total
Yards-passing
Sacks
Third down conversion
Turnovers
"Situational Football"
Arian Foster rushed for 155 yards against the Steelers and for 68 yards against the Raiders. Going by your logic, I guess the Raiders D is much better than the Steelers D. What matters is a body of work, not one game, and the Patriots pass defense has been absolutely pitiful for all 8 games this season.
The mess on defense. Once again, this defense is easily on pace to become statistically the worst pass defense ever. Normally defensive coordinators get fired for much less. Just look at what happened to the Giants defensive coordinator that replaced Steve Spag and the Eagles guy that followed Jim Johnson. BB is obviously the defensive coordinator here and do you honestly see him giving up on calling the defensive plays sometime this season or even next fall?
If BB is good enough to field a winning team despite the obvious deficiencies in the passing d then that is enough for me. The game is about scoring more than you let the other team not keeping them to an arbitrary yardage that a good d and in turn a good d coordinator should allow.
At some point just a winning record is not enough (see Fisher) but Fisher parlayed one SB loss and perennial competing into a 15 year Job so IMO BB has earned much more from us. And I am embarrassed by fellow Patriots fans thinking his time may have passed.
Arian Foster rushed for 155 yards against the Steelers and for 68 yards against the Raiders. Going by your logic, I guess the Raiders D is much better than the Steelers D. What matters is a body of work, not one game, and the Patriots pass defense has been absolutely pitiful for all 8 games this season.
If you honestly believe the two defenses are similar based on ONE GAME from each even though the Ravens D can justifiably claim that "Ben had a big game throwing the ball" while the Pats D can't make the same excuse because it has allowed literally anyone with an arm to throw for 300+ yards on them for half of a season, I give up. You win. You're the guy sitting in front of a computer somewhere in Pittsburgh and I hope you feel proud about yourself.
If BB is good enough to field a winning team despite the obvious deficiencies in the passing d then that is enough for me. The game is about scoring more than you let the other team not keeping them to an arbitrary yardage that a good d and in turn a good d coordinator should allow.
At some point just a winning record is not enough (see Fisher) but Fisher parlayed one SB loss and perennial competing into a 15 year Job so IMO BB has earned much more from us. And I am embarrassed by fellow Patriots fans thinking his time may have passed.
The problem here is that posters simply refuse to understand the timeless, universal concept that the single greatest determining factor of a football game is turnovers, turnover differential, and red zone turnovers.
I suspect the reason behind this is the absolute refusal to acknowledge that the offense is primarily to blame and a good portion of that falls on the QB.
Many fans here both complain that everyone makes excuses for Peyton Manning and then do the exact same thing for Brady.
Here is a question to ponder.
If Bledsoe had the exact same day on Sunday, where to you think patsfans.com would be?
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