the pats have a chance to prove there not the 2009 pats

[Sean Pa Patriot]

you should have won today, but now you have your backs against the wall ... lets see what this team is made up of next week at met life stadium... its not our season but its close enough win next week.. and you erase some doubt.. but how mentally tough is this team. the jets d shut down fitzpatrick, will they shut down the pats, we have not won in new jersey since 2008.. bill you cant blame dean pees or anybody else anymore the second half of the season is on you....

 

[andrewgarrr]

Brady and the Patriots offense have proven they can win a game.

The defense needs to prove they can win a game late in the fourth quarter. Once this happens, I will believe the Patriots can win the SB.

 

[sevengables_2207]

if the defense can continue to play as they did today, i am not worried about them against an inconsistent jets offense.

surprisingly, it is the patriots offense that i am curious to see next sunday against a seemingly rejuvenated jets defense. i still think they need to mix in a steady dose of the running game if the jets are still doggedly trotting out 7 or 8 defensive backs and 3 or 4 down linemen.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

We probably won't win the super bowl until BOB is fired so yeah super bowl I could care less about right now. But please let's sweep the ******* jets and win this division. I'm not one of those super bowl or bust guys I'll still remember wins like the Dallas game and stopping the Jets when they looked to have turned their season around would be sweet!

 

[Rob0729]

Brady and the Patriots offense have proven they can win a game.

The defense needs to prove they can win a game late in the fourth quarter. Once this happens, I will believe the Patriots can win the SB.

I'm the exact opposite, I think the offense has more to prove after today. They decided not to show up for 2 3/4 quarters. The defense should have never been in a position to win the game in the final minute today.

I have confidence the offense can turn it around and play at a high level from start to finish, but this is third game in a row where the offense came out anemic and the second out of the last three where the offense didn't decide to show up until late in the game (it never really showed up against Pittsburgh).

People are saying that the defense showed today that the offense needs to score 30 points to win, but I disagree. The defense would have done just fine if the Pats offense showed up before the final minutes of the third period. I am not talking that they had to play like they did the final quarter and a 1/4 like they did today. They just needed to have drives that last more than 4-5 plays and 2-3 minutes over and over again. The Pats had two drives that went for more than 5 plays until the final 5 or so minute of the third quarter. During that time they had 5 drives of 4 or less plays.

The biggest problem for the defense for most of the game was the offense kept on putting them back on the field. Every time the defense made a stop, the offense responded with a punt or a turnover or a missed field goal.

 

[Tom + Bill]

I am leaning english is there a wrong word in the thread title?

 

[PatriotFan77]

I am leaning english is there a wrong word in the thread title?

Keep studying

 

[alvinnf]

I'm the exact opposite, I think the offense has more to prove after today. They decided not to show up for 2 3/4 quarters. The defense should have never been in a position to win the game in the final minute today.

I have confidence the offense can turn it around and play at a high level from start to finish, but this is third game in a row where the offense came out anemic and the second out of the last three where the offense didn't decide to show up until late in the game (it never really showed up against Pittsburgh).

People are saying that the defense showed today that the offense needs to score 30 points to win, but I disagree. The defense would have done just fine if the Pats offense showed up before the final minutes of the third period. I am not talking that they had to play like they did the final quarter and a 1/4 like they did today. They just needed to have drives that last more than 4-5 plays and 2-3 minutes over and over again. The Pats had two drives that went for more than 5 plays until the final 5 or so minute of the third quarter. During that time they had 5 drives of 4 or less plays.

The biggest problem for the defense for most of the game was the offense kept on putting them back on the field. Every time the defense made a stop, the offense responded with a punt or a turnover or a missed field goal.

The two have to be complimentary of one another. Now this year the both have some work to do, more for the D than the O. But if you consider that after tonight's Balt/Pitt game there will be only two teams with a 6-2 record in the AFC and one of them is Cinn with a rookie QB. This team needs some wins and some growth. The fear I have is that they are less aware of all the flaws on O because of the QB and the successes. Everyone knows the warts on the D and for 3 qtrs they had em fixed. Give em some time and I think they'll surprise people. I fear nothing new will surprise me about the O. Their flaws will go ignored and unfixed. Sadly.....

 

[aurakilla]

I really hope I wake up to some personal moves tomorrow :bricks:

 

[andrewgarrr]

I'm the exact opposite, I think the offense has more to prove after today. They decided not to show up for 2 3/4 quarters. The defense should have never been in a position to win the game in the final minute today.

I have confidence the offense can turn it around and play at a high level from start to finish, but this is third game in a row where the offense came out anemic and the second out of the last three where the offense didn't decide to show up until late in the game (it never really showed up against Pittsburgh).

People are saying that the defense showed today that the offense needs to score 30 points to win, but I disagree. The defense would have done just fine if the Pats offense showed up before the final minutes of the third period. I am not talking that they had to play like they did the final quarter and a 1/4 like they did today. They just needed to have drives that last more than 4-5 plays and 2-3 minutes over and over again. The Pats had two drives that went for more than 5 plays until the final 5 or so minute of the third quarter. During that time they had 5 drives of 4 or less plays.

The biggest problem for the defense for most of the game was the offense kept on putting them back on the field. Every time the defense made a stop, the offense responded with a punt or a turnover or a missed field goal.

I'm not giving the offense a pass. They laid an egg for the majority of the games against DAL, PIT, and NYG.

When December and January roll around, I'd feel much better about the Patriots chances if the defense could win a game when they had to.

That being said, Brady is in a funk. And he needs to snap out of it.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I'm the exact opposite, I think the offense has more to prove after today. They decided not to show up for 2 3/4 quarters. The defense should have never been in a position to win the game in the final minute today.

I have confidence the offense can turn it around and play at a high level from start to finish, but this is third game in a row where the offense came out anemic and the second out of the last three where the offense didn't decide to show up until late in the game (it never really showed up against Pittsburgh).

People are saying that the defense showed today that the offense needs to score 30 points to win, but I disagree. The defense would have done just fine if the Pats offense showed up before the final minutes of the third period. I am not talking that they had to play like they did the final quarter and a 1/4 like they did today. They just needed to have drives that last more than 4-5 plays and 2-3 minutes over and over again. The Pats had two drives that went for more than 5 plays until the final 5 or so minute of the third quarter. During that time they had 5 drives of 4 or less plays.

The biggest problem for the defense for most of the game was the offense kept on putting them back on the field. Every time the defense made a stop, the offense responded with a punt or a turnover or a missed field goal.

Agree with this, and you can throw special teams in there too. We have to find a way to actually get some kicks returned past the 25 yard line and we need to cover KO's better than we have this year. Our punt coverage and Mesko at least has been strong this year. But we need plays from special teams other than muffed kicks.

The problem is when our offense gets into a funk, it stays in a funk and it has an effect on the D. This is correct though if the D wasn't hung out to dry they would have looked alot better in the end.

 

[mcgraw_wv]

This team has been weak, and soft since 09, and there is nearly no change. Same weaknesses, same holes, nothing filled... slightly pathetic.

Its like having a review at your job every year and your boss telling you what you need to work on, yet you keep putting the same product out there as your work...

Not one thing has changed, defense gives up big plays all day long, no clutch stops. Offense is finnesse, and lacks toughness to grind out long game ending drives.

This team is a shell of the championship teams, and there is nothing in common with them, in heart, effort, leadership...

 

[Ring 6]

you should have won today, but now you have your backs against the wall ... lets see what this team is made up of next week at met life stadium... its not our season but its close enough win next week.. and you erase some doubt.. but how mentally tough is this team. the jets d shut down fitzpatrick, will they shut down the pats, we have not won in new jersey since 2008.. bill you cant blame dean pees or anybody else anymore the second half of the season is on you....

There is no doubt that having to win week in and week out over the second half of the season will toughen this team up for the playoffs.
After winning next week and having a lead and tiebreaker over the Jests, they still must fight every week to stay ahead of Bufflalo and fight for bye and HFA, just as they did in all 3 SB years.
It is what it is, and this team is in a position to have to fight. Lets see where that takes them,.

 

[Ring 6]

This team has been weak, and soft since 09, and there is nearly no change. Same weaknesses, same holes, nothing filled... slightly pathetic.

Its like having a review at your job every year and your boss telling you what you need to work on, yet you keep putting the same product out there as your work...

Not one thing has changed, defense gives up big plays all day long, no clutch stops. Offense is finnesse, and lacks toughness to grind out long game ending drives.

This team is a shell of the championship teams, and there is nothing in common with them, in heart, effort, leadership...

So give up. Go find another team.
I'm sticking with this one, and I like my chances. Let me know how it goes for you as a Ravens fan.

 

[Ring 6]

I am leaning english is there a wrong word in the thread title?

Yes, THEY ARE is not there, its they're

 

[Ring 6]

Keep studying

Aparently you need to go back to school because the guy learning English is right and your insult back to him is hilarious when you realize you made fun of him and YOU were wrong

 

[Simkin]

if the defense can continue to play as they did today, i am not worried about them against an inconsistent jets offense.

lol for real

 

[mcgraw_wv]

So give up. Go find another team.
I'm sticking with this one, and I like my chances. Let me know how it goes for you as a Ravens fan.

So... Im not allowed to recognize the obvious lack of progress in key areas which have prevented this team from snagging perhaps another championship?

And because of that, I am less of fan, or should not be a fan... Show me that cool fan card you have that I never got, it must be cool to be a better fan than everyone else.

Simply put, I am not a rose colored glasses wearer, I can see the evidence for myself, and thew product hasn't changed since 09, and little to no effort has been put into trying to change that. We continue to get the same results, and we wonder why???