OT: Foxsports rips Sanchez

[Triumph]

Funny


Mark Sanchez's shortcomings on full display as the New York Jets fall to the New England Patriots - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

 

[DarrylS]

Read that earlier, the whole "Sanchize" thing is NY Hype.. perhaps more appropo would be "Sanchideerinheadlights"....

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Why all the hatred for Sanchez? He's completing a career high of 56.1% of his passes and only averaging 1.5 turnovers a game. He's never played better!

 

[zoostation]

He is average at best and if he played in Seattle you'd never hear his name.

You really have to wonder why that franchise prioritized diva receivers Holmes and Burress when their somewhat recent success revolved around hard nosed running and D.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

The Sanchise did not have a bad game yesterday. No stupid decisions. No costly fumbles. Hit the open guys for TDs. Several Jets dropped easy catches.

The run game got shut down big time and the Jets D could not hold the Pats under 30.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

The Sanchise did not have a bad game yesterday. No stupid decisions. No costly fumbles. Hit the open guys for TDs. Several Jets dropped easy catches.

The run game got shut down big time and the Jets D could not hold the Pats under 30.

Pretty much.

Sanchez is what he is. He can manage games well, has done a good job of it in big games too I'll give him credit. But he's not a guy you build your team around, the only people that need to rip him for yesterday are the ones who set their expectations too high for him. He can't carry a bad team very far, and right now the Jets are a bad team they should be 1-4.

 

[Deus Irae]

Sanchez is a bottom tier QB. That's good enough to play in the NFL, but not good enough to be drafted in the top 5. It's not his fault that the Jets overdrafted him, but I'm glad they did. Had they drafted Raji instead, the Patriots would be struggling a lot more with that Jets defense, and the Jets could have found a better QB via trade or free agency.

 

[TheSolderKing]

Sanchez played better than he got credit for.



Lots of dropped passes by Plax and etc


At the same point though we had dropped passes as well.


Sanchez is above mediocre but not by much. I'd take Tony Romo ahead of him in a Regular season game. Sanchez has played very well in the playoffs... his great D makes him look better than he is imo

 

[Joker]

Our defensive pressure was a 1/2 second slower than the Ravens the game previous....hopefully it'll get better....the reason sanchez looked even passably pedestrian yesterday was he remained intact and upright for the most part...I maintain that when hit early, he turtles...and remains ineffective the entire game. This will occur many more times this season as other squads with better pass rushes than ours will blitz this little jumpin' Judy back to the Stone age.

 

[TheSolderKing]

Our defensive pressure was a 1/2 second slower than the Ravens the game previous....hopefully it'll get better....the reason sanchez looked even passably pedestrian yesterday was he remained intact and upright for the most part...I maintain that when hit early, he turtles...and remains ineffective the entire game. This will occur many more times this season as other squads with better pass rushes than ours will blitz this little jumpin' Judy back to the Stone age.

this is where BUFFALO will be great in helping us


A buffalo win twice would make me giddy A split would suffice to

 

[sieglo]

He is Pennington v2, and I am okay with that.

 

[Deus Irae]

Sanchez is above mediocre but not by much. I'd take Tony Romo ahead of him in a Regular season game. Sanchez has played very well in the playoffs... his great D makes him look better than he is imo

Brady
Fitzpatrick
Henne
Roethlisberger
Flacco
McCoy
Dalton
P. Manning
Hasselbeck
Schaub
McCown
Rivers
Campbell
Cassel
Orton


E. Manning
Vick
Romo
Grossman
Rodgers
Stafford
Cutler
McNabb
Freeman
Brees
Ryan
Newton
Smith
Kolb
Jackson
Bradford


That's the list of all the starting QBs that teams had to start the year (obviously Peyton is listed only because he'd have been that starter barring injury). How many of them are definitely, or likely, worse than Sanchez? I find four, although I could see people arguing that Henne would have made five.

 

[BradyMoss812]

If I was a Jets fan I'd be worried that Sanchez only put up 166 yards against our 32nd rated pass defense, considering the amount of yards that Henne, Rivers, Fitzpatrick and Campbell have put up against us.

 

[Trey]

Brady
Fitzpatrick
Henne
Roethlisberger
Flacco
McCoy
Dalton
P. Manning
Hasselbeck
Schaub
McCown
Rivers
Campbell
Cassel
Orton


E. Manning
Vick
Romo
Grossman
Rodgers
Stafford
Cutler
McNabb
Freeman
Brees
Ryan
Newton
Smith
Kolb
Jackson
Bradford


That's the list of all the starting QBs that teams had to start the year (obviously Peyton is listed only because he'd have been that starter barring injury). How many of them are definitely, or likely, worse than Sanchez? I find four, although I could see people arguing that Henne would have made five.

I'm not ready to put McCoy or Dalton over Sanchez. Smith either. Bradford isn't playing better either, although the potential is there. But I don't count potential. Cambell is the epitome of terrible. And I would take Sanchez over the aforementioned (in bold), so I came to nine.

 

[Kid~Brady]

I'm not ready to put McCoy or Dalton over Sanchez. Smith either. Bradford isn't playing better either, although the potential is there. But I don't count potential. Cambell is the epitome of terrible. And I would take Sanchez over the aforementioned (in bold), so I came to nine.

Honestly Grossman isnt playing all that bad. The Redskins do lead the NFC East right now.

 

[Trey]

Honestly Grossman isnt playing all that bad. The Redskins do lead the NFC East right now.

He isn't. He's competent. Though, I think Sanchez is competent. I also think the Jets would be undefeated if they had the Skins' schedule so far. But the metric was "definitely worse than Sanchez" and I think the two are a wash.

 

[Deus Irae]

I'm not ready to put McCoy or Dalton over Sanchez. Smith either. Bradford isn't playing better either, although the potential is there. But I don't count potential. Cambell is the epitome of terrible. And I would take Sanchez over the aforementioned (in bold), so I came to nine.

You're trying to have it both ways. If you're putting Bradford behind Sanchez based upon play this season, you can't have Sanchez ahead of Campbell. Campbell's numbers are better, his team's record is better, and he hasn't had any game approaching the type of disaster Sanchez had against the Ravens. Smith clearly falls in this category, as well.

Also, given that McCoy has a much lower INT%, despite having a lousy receiving corps, and their QB rating is only about a 2 difference, I don't see how you thin you can definitely/likely put Sanchez ahead of him. As a matter of fact, if you want to use the ESPN QBR stat (I wouldn't, but you might like it), Sanchez is currently ahead of only Gabbert and Kerry Collins as of this moment.

NFL - Week 5 Total QBR Season Leaders - ESPN

 

[Trey]

You're trying to have it both ways. If you're putting Bradford behind Sanchez based upon play this season, you can't have Sanchez ahead of Campbell. Campbell's numbers are better, his team's record is better, and he hasn't had any game approaching the type of disaster Sanchez had against the Ravens. Smith clearly falls in this category, as well.

Also, given that McCoy has a much lower INT%, despite having a lousy receiving corps, and their QB rating is only about a 2 difference, I don't see how you thin you can definitely/likely put Sanchez ahead of him. As a matter of fact, if you want to use the ESPN QBR stat (I wouldn't, but you might like it), Sanchez is currently ahead of only Gabbert and Kerry Collins as of this moment.

NFL - Week 5 Total QBR Season Leaders - ESPN

I've seen Cambell twice and Sanchez twice. Cambell played stupid against the Patriots. I can't see, in all his faults, Sanchez throwing either of those picks Cambell near hand delivered to the Pats right now.

I don't have complete information. Most of this is intuition and opinion. I'm not denying that. But, gut feeling, I'm taking Sanchez definitively over those nine QBs. For various reasons.

I don't take too much stock into QBR, either. Or any statistical rating. More so I judge the individual stats themselves.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

It seems to me that Sanchez is struggling a bit because he lacks confidence in his O line. At some point if the Jets O line gels, we may have to rethink our opinion on Sanchez.

 

[Deus Irae]

I've seen Cambell twice and Sanchez twice. Cambell played stupid against the Patriots. I can't see, in all his faults, Sanchez throwing either of those picks Cambell near hand delivered to the Pats right now.

I don't have complete information. Most of this is intuition and opinion. I'm not denying that. But, gut feeling, I'm taking Sanchez definitively over those nine QBs. For various reasons.

I don't take too much stock into QBR, either. Or any statistical rating. More so I judge the individual stats themselves.

If you want to go with intuition, that's fine. I'll laugh at your picks, and you'll laugh at mine. I was just pointing out the inconsistencies in your justifications.