Rex Ryan should be suspended

[IllegalContact]

so here we are.........

let's say for a moment, BB get up and says today or tomorrow: 'jets fans better not show up in foxboro wearing their teams's logo........I'm telling you they better not!!!! It is really not recommended!!!'

and then some guy wearing a sanchez shirt is pounded to within a breath of his life.......

you would actually say that there is no way that one would have anything to do with the other?

coaches need to worry about what's on the field.......

 

[fnordcircle]

so here we are.........

let's say for a moment, BB get up and says today or tomorrow: 'jets fans better not show up in foxboro wearing their teams's logo........I'm telling you they better not!!!! It is really not recommended!!!'

and then some guy wearing a sanchez shirt is pounded to within a breath of his life.......

you would actually say that there is no way that one would have anything to do with the other?

coaches need to worry about what's on the field.......

By this logic anyone who says 'don't walk around the Bronx at night alone' is guilty of inciting inner-city violence.

 

[Danger Zone]

Words have meanings, you'd do well to use them properly.

Definition of ENABLE
transitive verb
1
a : to provide with the means or opportunity <training that enables people to earn a living> b : to make possible, practical, or easy <a deal that would enable passage of a new law> c : to cause to operate <software that enables the keyboard>
2
: to give legal power, capacity, or sanction to <a law enabling admission of a state

Please stop saying he "enabled" fans to be violent, he didnt, you're using the word incorrectly. You could argue, depending on how he said it, that he was condoning violence but he didnt enable it.

Actually hearing how he said it would be useful, I can see how one could take it different ways but the strict meaning of the words themselves doesnt support your claim.

While far from perfect myself, I often fear for the integrity of the English language.

However, there is a time, place and means by which you will have the best positive results in correcting someone.

Ignoring any or all three may result in a response like miine.

GFY.

There were any number of better ways you could have gone about making your point, instead you tried to single-handedly derail the thread into a pedantic argument about semantics.

 

[mb6592]

to go out and say 'it is not recommended' to wear cowboys gear to the game is enabling the people who already have problems controlling themselves to further their aggravating behavior......not sure why you don't see that. Such an obvious thing, and yet you've never heard any coach ever suggest something like that because its inappropriate......

I'm giving my opinion on his EXACT words I'm not trying to impose any meaning into it like you are. Here's something to think about it, if I told a friend of mine "it's probably not a good idea to wear a Brady jersey to a Jets game" am I enabling anyone or it it potentially good advice?

I think I'm going to have to side with Illegal on this one.

New York police recently warned female Park Slope residents not to wear skirts or other provacative attire (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4473480...pds-warning-about-skirts-irks-brooklyn-women/). While this caused a huge outcry from many females who took offense to the implication that they were somehow responsible (i.e. cause & effect), no one suggested that the cops were motivated by anything other than using another means to prevent another attack. While one can argue whether or not the cops should have gone there, there was obviously no ulterior motive. While, of course, he shouldn't be suspended - can the same be said of Rex?

 

[Snake Eyes]

While far from perfect myself, I often fear for the integrity of the English language.

However, there is a time, place and means by which you will have the best positive results in correcting someone.

Ignoring any or all three may result in a response like miine.

GFY.

There were any number of better ways you could have gone about making your point, instead you tried to single-handedly derail the thread into a pedantic argument about semantics.

Tough luck pal, words have a meaning and it's pretty ridiculous to criticize ME because your friend failed to use them properly, which amounts to claiming something about Rexy that simply isn't true. One shouldnt be offended at being called out after they claim that Rexy "enabled" thugs to attack Cowboys fans if he didnt, in fact, enable them.

I wonder how much of this is really coming from the fact that it was Rex Ryan, coach of our hated rival, that said it.

 

[Snake Eyes]

I think I'm going to have to side with Illegal on this one.

New York police recently warned female Park Slope residents not to wear skirts or other provacative attire (NYPD's warning about skirts irks women - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com). While this caused a huge outcry from many females who took offense to the implication that they were somehow responsible (i.e. cause & effect), no one suggested that the cops were motivated by anything other than using another means to prevent another attack. While one can argue whether or not the cops should have gone there, there was obviously no ulterior motive. While, of course, he shouldn't be suspended - can the same be said of Rex?

I don't know what's going in inside Rexy's head, I can only judge his words. Here's the interview, it's right around the 13 minute mark that he's asked the question and responds, I've watched it a few times and I don't sense any definitive threat but you can make your own judgment.

9/7/11 Coach Rex Ryan News Conference - YouTube

 

[mb6592]

I don't know what's going in inside Rexy's head, I can only judge his words. Here's the interview, it's right around the 13 minute mark that he's asked the question and responds, I've watched it a few times and I don't sense any definitive threat but you can make your own judgment.

9/7/11 Coach Rex Ryan News Conference - YouTube

Inflection, the use of irony, obvious rhetorical questions and the like enable us to ascertain meaning not provided by words alone. Anyone watching that clip would not mistake it for the type of public safety warning given out by the police in my previous example. It was Rex being Rex - full of (false) bravado. He wasn't personnaly threatening anyone, but just like he talks up his mediocre players, he was talking up his (hoped for) "gangsta" crowd.